Poll: is a gun a good tool to have in a household?

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one-shot-finch

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now that i think about it if you shoot an intruder then call the police all they find is a dead stranger and you holding a gun
I know that actually calling the police would take off suspicion but then a serial killer could bring a victim into house,claim the victim broke in and they would get away with it
 

zoozilla

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No. The less guns the better.

I can't think of an instance where a gun would be a great household tool.
 

indyfan

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A good tool?

It all depends on what type of person you are

in my opinion, Yes it is, with the proper storage and locks

I would never want to use it on somebody, but a sense of security is always a good thing

while were on the subject, I would like to stress my hate for laws that ban owning guns, if you ban guns in the US, criminals will still find a way to get them

For every gun related crime that occurs in the US, it far more likely that the gun was purchased illegally from some dealer on the streets, banning the legal sale of guns will not stop criminals from getting them
 

54r93

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hippieshopper post=18.75200.859629 said:
I have to agree with Rebel...

If you are single or something, a gun is fine.
But if you have kids or grand-kids or something, I would say no...
Or you could just learn how to keep your kids away from it. I feel that it's our right to keep bear arms second only to our freedom of speech, just as it is written. Now should you be allowed to have one if you've proven you are dangerous with one? no. But there should be no gun control laws that prohibit the good people from getting their guns at all.
 

54r93

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indyfan post=18.75200.864009 said:
A good tool?

It all depends on what type of person you are

in my opinion, Yes it is, with the proper storage and locks

I would never want to use it on somebody, but a sense of security is always a good thing

while were on the subject, I would like to stress my hate for laws that ban owning guns, if you ban guns in the US, criminals will still find a way to get them

For every gun related crime that occurs in the US, it far more likely that the gun was purchased illegally from some dealer on the streets, banning the legal sale of guns will not stop criminals from getting them
I completely agree. Banning alcohol didn't stop people from drinking...banning guns won't stop people from killing, i think it will increase the killing honestly as those with guns illegally would know that no one else could have a gun to stop them. That's one big reason I'm against Obama, he's for UN issued gun control in America and that aint right.
 

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RebelRising said:
Seeing as how I'm single, and will be for the rest of my life, probably, there's nothing wrong with keeping a gun in the house, just so you're ready when the next Ed Gein pops up.

I am in favor of tighter gun control, however, so that guns don't wind up in the wrong hands.
Same deal here.

Though I admit using it open up beer cans is a *****.
 

Skalman

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Number one: A gun is not a tool, a gun is a weapon. It serves no purpose as a tool.

Number two: Weapons are used to kill things. so unless you really need to kill something, you have no need for a weapon.

Number three: A Gun shouldn't even be in your house unless you're working in law enforcement and/or the military.

Number four: and don't come say it's for hunting purposes. You don't hunt with a gun, you use a rifle or possibly a bow.

Number five: self defense isn't a valid reason either, you're better of with a baseball bat or go learn a martial art.

Edit: Guns should only be allowed to people who actually need them, i.e police and military. Can't really understand how you in America are so fixated with the right to own guns. Most parts of the world doesn't allow civilians to own guns and the percentage of murders involving guns in all those countries are alot lower than in the states.
Just accept it, legalizing guns leads to more deaths.
 
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Simple shotgun. Too big for a child to easily maneuver, very effect at its job, and idiot proof.
An essential tool for any household.

Having a handgun as a home tool is quite frankly idiotic though.
 

Jamash

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54r93 said:
Or you could just learn how to keep your kids away from it. I feel that it's our right to keep bear arms second only to our freedom of speech, just as it is written. Now should you be allowed to have one if you've proven you are dangerous with one? no. But there should be no gun control laws that prohibit the good people from getting their guns at all.
You're talking about the arms of a Bear, right? Like if you shoot a Bear you should be allowed to cut off & keep it's arms, but if you act dangerously with them, like scratch people with the claws or scare campers by poking them through the flaps of tents & growling, then you have those Bear arms taken off you?

What's your stance on Eagle wings or Fish tails? How do you feel about Monkey Fists?
 
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Skalman said:
Number one: A gun is not a tool, a gun is a weapon. It serves no purpose as a tool.
Under every definition I can find of tool, a gun is a tool. A tool with a specific task, but a tool none-the-less.

one-shot-finch said:
now that i think about it if you shoot an intruder then call the police all they find is a dead stranger and you holding a gun
I know that actually calling the police would take off suspicion but then a serial killer could bring a victim into house,claim the victim broke in and they would get away with it
By the eighth incident, someone's probably going to put together something's up.
 

Skalman

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Imitation Saccharin post=18.75200.864146 said:
Skalman said:
Number one: A gun is not a tool, a gun is a weapon. It serves no purpose as a tool.
Under every definition I can find of tool, a gun is a tool. A tool with a specific task, but a tool none-the-less.
Right, so i may have underestimated the extent of the word tool...

But anyway, what use of a gun do you have in your everyday life?
 

Skalman

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Imitation Saccharin said:
Skalman said:
But anyway, what use of a gun do you have in your everyday life?
What use is your locked front door 99.9 % of the time?
Not all people lock their doors, in fact an unlocked door is almost as safe as a locked one, because everyone expects it to be locked so they don't go check if it actually is.
 
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Skalman said:
Not all people lock their doors, in fact an unlocked door is almost as safe as a locked one, because everyone expects it to be locked so they don't go check if it actually is.
A) I beg to differ. I've seen people go up and down a community trying doors.
B) The phenomena is only valid if a significant minority hold true to it.
 

RebelRising

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dalek sec said:
RebelRising said:
Seeing as how I'm single, and will be for the rest of my life, probably, there's nothing wrong with keeping a gun in the house, just so you're ready when the next Ed Gein pops up.

I am in favor of tighter gun control, however, so that guns don't wind up in the wrong hands.
Same deal here.

Though I admit using it open up beer cans is a *****.
Well, I don't know about that, I enjoy a glass of fine Chiraz, on my part.

On a side note, if any of you have seen The Strangers, you'll know that if the guy had learned to work a shot gun, the movie would have been over in 30 minutes, sparing me the torturous 50 more minutes of that terrible, terrible movie.
 

54r93

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Jamash post=18.75200.864136 said:
54r93 said:
Or you could just learn how to keep your kids away from it. I feel that it's our right to keep bear arms second only to our freedom of speech, just as it is written. Now should you be allowed to have one if you've proven you are dangerous with one? no. But there should be no gun control laws that prohibit the good people from getting their guns at all.
You're talking about the arms of a Bear, right? Like if you shoot a Bear you should be allowed to cut off & keep it's arms, but if you act dangerously with them, like scratch people with the claws or scare campers by poking them through the flaps of tents & growling, then you have those Bear arms taken off you?

What's your stance on Eagle wings or Fish tails? How do you feel about Monkey Fists?
Hahaha wow what a convenient typo. I feel that eagles wings should be left to the birds but fish tails make for a good melee weapon.
 

GyroCaptain

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The OP's phrasing reminded me of a Far Side cartoon with a cowboy-hatted man nailing shingles with the butt of his gun and another man saying "So, they tell me you're pretty handy with a gun"

I would also like to don my grammarian hat (I put on my robe and wizard hat) and say this thread features some of the worst spelling I've seen on the Escapist forums.

Pretending that guns aren't useful for recreation (ok, maybe they really aren't in the inner city) is a good way to claim high risk/reward of ownership, but that doesn't fly. This may seem cynical, but most of those who kill themselves accidentally with firearms are doing the rest of us a favor. If we're going to embiggen the moron stereotype, it's a lot easier to clean up than if they passed out drunk behind the wheel, ODed on meth, etc, etc.