I personally think it is murder. Lumps of flesh don't have ears and eyes, and they don't swallow and have the ability to kick you while in the womb.
Poll: Is abortion murder?
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How is it now alive? Did you know that by week 4 the baby already has a heart and a circulatory system? And the heart starts beating by week 5?MKScorpion said:
i dont believe so since i dont think its "alive" until most babies of that age can survive without medical intervention. which is usually around 24-28 weeks if im correct and tbh if you decide to have an abortion at that stage then why did not bother earlier instead of putting yourself through pregnancy all that time
Eh, the way I see it is that once something would naturally develop into a human, it's a human. I'm against abortion.
To expand on the "conscious thought" thing, the ability to think is by no means a characteristic of life. Plants are alive, as are bacteria. I think that it's immoral when we kill something that's alive and is a (future) human just because we don't feel like dealing with it.
This discussion isn't going to go very far, FYI. When I think "life" is one thing and someone else thinks "life" is a different thing, we're going to hit a stalemate no matter what.
To expand on the "conscious thought" thing, the ability to think is by no means a characteristic of life. Plants are alive, as are bacteria. I think that it's immoral when we kill something that's alive and is a (future) human just because we don't feel like dealing with it.
This discussion isn't going to go very far, FYI. When I think "life" is one thing and someone else thinks "life" is a different thing, we're going to hit a stalemate no matter what.
I always thought abortions were only possible if done within the first 2 months (I believe) of pregnancy. I don't think ears, eyes and kicking have started by this period, they do have fingernails however... very wierd. However, I could likely be wrong, feel free to correct.
Also, I believe abortions are sometimes a necessary thing, and never a case of murder.
Also, I believe abortions are sometimes a necessary thing, and never a case of murder.
Its not murder.gamerguy473 said:
98% of fetus's are aborted well before 20 weeks, and most before 10. Its not until 24 weeks that brain function has a probability of existing (some start slightly later or earlier but not by much).
Before that its no different than killing a tumor. Its just cellular growth. If you play the "what it is going to be" card, then masturbation is mass genocide.
Science. Listen well children. It works bitches.
But that's not the point, the point is that it is a person in development. As for the argument made before about putting animals down. They're animals. Not people. There is a HUGE difference. A fetus is a person in the making.MKScorpion said:
Depends on how you view it.
Some people don't think it is because the fetus isn't considered a "Person" until its out of the womb.
Therefore its not murdering a person.
I believe its murder because its still "Alive" in the womb.
Personhood or not its still a living human.
But i do recognize that Abortion is necessary when the Baby threatens the life of the mother.
And especially when the mothers life and its own life is threatened if it were born.
Other than that, i Believe that putting the baby up for Adoption is the best thing to do.
Some people don't think it is because the fetus isn't considered a "Person" until its out of the womb.
Therefore its not murdering a person.
I believe its murder because its still "Alive" in the womb.
Personhood or not its still a living human.
But i do recognize that Abortion is necessary when the Baby threatens the life of the mother.
And especially when the mothers life and its own life is threatened if it were born.
Other than that, i Believe that putting the baby up for Adoption is the best thing to do.
That means that I could kill a 1 year old, since they can't verbalize their concious thought, so how would we know if they have it? I could kill my own baby at age 1 and 1/2 and I would be protected by the law?Adzma said:
I wasn't trying to equate people and house pets morally. However, listing physical markers is no indication of status as "living person" to most people. Many people would not consider someone who is medically brain dead, with no higher brain function to be a person.
Many babies have their first words prior to one year. A one year old can survive without its mother, it isn't a possibly involuntary occupant.
