Poll: Is all this fuss over Valve's Day 1 COSMETIC DLC really going to matter.

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Denariax

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What you buy is what is on the disc. If you don't want the hats, then don't buy them. They are not required, nor are they important; They are, in every sense of the word, 'Downloadable Content'.

When a game goes gold they can't really add more to the game. Plus the part that they did this with Team Fortress 2, and people do that just as much, why not do it for this?

I hope people like you drop the controller and stop playing altogether, but I really don't see that happening. I play games to play games, not to look at the pretty pictures.
 

z3rostr1fe

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Oh wow... Too many choices... Which option shall I take?
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Not a big problem IMO. Cosmetic Stuff? Pah, who needs them. But power upgrades and extra maps(if ever), WANT! But Valve doesn't have a record of selling upgrades and extra maps, so... Yea, no bother about the current state of the "Robot Enrichment" platform. I still wonder how will players play with custom maps without opening the dev console(a little something L4D does I presume).
 
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There really shouldn't be all this fuss over DLC, even if it was a few extra test chambers. Developers need to make money to make games, DLC gives them a little extra to work with, you should be happy to pay for it. It was content deemed to be unnecessary to the actual game and it's story that they cut and tacked on as DLC, that's fair game, you shouldn't complain about DLC like that. What you should complain about is the DLC that is necessary to the actual game.
 

Brainpalm

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I don't even think of it as DLC. It IS the tf2 store thing... but in portal. I mean come on, seriously. It offers a few skins/hats etc for your bot character that you can use in co-op and are purely, completely, totally 100% aesthetic. Not to mention digital (aka NOT REAL).

Also you play co-op with one other person than yourself. One. Aure you can play on multiple occasions and junk but it's 1 other person at a time who gets to see your new skin, and tell you how "totally awesome" it is that your bot is now red, or "camo" or has a funny hat or some bullshit.

Honestly grow up all of you who are complaining about this, if you don't like the store, don't buy anything from it, no one will care if you have the stupid new skins and no one will give a rats if you don't.
 

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Brainpalm said:
I don't even think of it as DLC. It IS the tf2 store thing... but in portal. I mean come on, seriously. It offers a few skins/hats etc for your bot character that you can use in co-op and are purely, completely, totally 100% aesthetic. Not to mention digital (aka NOT REAL).

Also you play co-op with one other person than yourself. One. Aure you can play on multiple occasions and junk but it's 1 other person at a time who gets to see your new skin, and tell you how "totally awesome" it is that your bot is now red, or "camo" or has a funny hat or some bullshit.

Honestly grow up all of you who are complaining about this, if you don't like the store, don't buy anything from it, no one will care if you have the stupid new skins and no one will give a rats if you don't.

I personally loved the store, and i bought the complete pack of DLC on offer.
 

Legion IV

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42 said:
It wasnt supposed to be a serious poll. or thread for that matter.
Am not mad really about it, you know what i am mad at though? that theres no real defense for?

I buy this game full retail price expecting a full game a full sequel that improves on portal 1 and adds more.

It improves add co-op. yet it removes the best part of portal one of the main reasons i bought it. The Advanced stages, i was hoping there'd be twice as many since you know, its a sequel its a full game.

Valve just says nope sorry, just co-op and single thats it, you want advanced stages? make em yourself. Oh by the way we have a whole catalog of dlc.

What happened to you valve......
 

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Well i would make reference that Valve does release its new L4D levels completely free, (the Xbox version is a given Microsoft is to blame for that) and i agree with
Legion IV said:
42 said:
It wasnt supposed to be a serious poll. or thread for that matter.
Am not mad really about it, you know what i am mad at though? that theres no real defense for?

I buy this game full retail price expecting a full game a full sequel that improves on portal 1 and adds more.

It improves add co-op. yet it removes the best part of portal one of the main reasons i bought it. The Advanced stages, i was hoping there'd be twice as many since you know, its a sequel its a full game.

Valve just says nope sorry, just co-op and single thats it, you want advanced stages? make em yourself. Oh by the way we have a whole catalog of dlc.

What happened to you valve......
Well i would make reference that Valve does release its new L4D levels completely free, (the Xbox version is a given Microsoft is to blame for that) and i agree with you on the lack of advanced levels. Maybe it'll come out in a new patch? im guessing since they said it was a full sequel they will give it full post-release support. I think they would be waiting for everyone to finish playing it (including the late buyers!!!) before deciding on ways to bring people back to the game. and i also would understand if they needed sometime to find ways to make the Portal 2's levels advanced, so they're probably working on it right now, because hey Portal 2 had some difficult puzzles in the end. plus with the editor on its way people will probably make the advanced versions of the stories level anyway. as well as the possibility of co-op map packs. I do admit they have been shamelessly have been delaying Episode 3, but i haven't had a problem with that. and i think they'll be coming back to Half Life after portal 2 because they did drop a heavy hint by including the ship named at the end of Ep 2. (im not revealing the name, go play it if you want that) so who knows.
 

Brainpalm

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42 said:
I personally loved the store, and i bought the complete pack of DLC on offer.
You are the only person I have heard so far who actually likes it. I respect you a lot for that. I personally don't like it (it's not that I hate it or anything, I more just don't care), I wouldn't ever buy anything from it, but I'm much more opposed to people complaining about it. Valve owns the rights to the game etc. therefore they can do whatever they want with it. They still release free updates to pretty much everything they've released so I see no reason to complain.
 

Grabbin Keelz

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A few days ago I made a stupid rant about it, until I learned it was actually one of the best made DLC's in any game ever. I felt like a total ass after that.
 

Kyle Roberts

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Meh i like the idea of it but then again i bought loads of items from the tf2 cosmetic store including a £4.99 ushanka for the heavy.

See thats another thing most stuff there is around 99p (just a estimation i didn't get look around long) unlike the tf2 store where you can buy hats for £12 and everyone seems to be alright with it now it was made for people who want to be unique i only bought the amnesia flag and i like it.
But then if it hasn't got the words "call of duty" on it people are going to rant on about it.
But overall i think its okay its quite stupid why i wasted money on the hats in it but i guess my life savings are better if they go towards a hat i can't wear.
 

Weaver

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Why is your poll full of loaded answeres and pointless options?

For the record, the DLC didn't bother me at all.
 

mew4ever23

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Honestly, I don't see why people are screaming at Valve over the cosmetic items you can buy for the co-op bots. Yes, they're kinda over priced, but this isn't intrusive DLC at all. I'm probably not going to buy any of it because of how much it costs, even though I see a dozen uses for the facepalm gesture.
 

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Brainpalm said:
42 said:
I personally loved the store, and i bought the complete pack of DLC on offer.
You are the only person I have heard so far who actually likes it. I respect you a lot for that. I personally don't like it (it's not that I hate it or anything, I more just don't care), I wouldn't ever buy anything from it, but I'm much more opposed to people complaining about it. Valve owns the rights to the game etc. therefore they can do whatever they want with it. They still release free updates to pretty much everything they've released so I see no reason to complain.
If only everyone had that line of thought man. (and i Respect you for having the right perspective on the issue)
 

s0p0g

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their day 1 dlc actually is pretty good BECAUSE it doesn't affect the gameplay whatsoever; they didn't cut something out from the games and make you pay even more for it to get the whole thing, but added some cosmetics. i'm cool with that and probably will support it by buying ^^

as opposed to project 10$, by courtesy of [insert (big) publishers' names here], which will make you pay way more than the usual 50-60 bucks to actually get the complete game
 

godofallu

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OP: When you make a thread with a biased poll, the rule is you have to facepalm yourself.

On topic: Valve offers a ton of free content, and as such, they are allowed to get away with this kind of crap. If someone else did it, it might bother me some.
 

Outright Villainy

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Is the DLC silly and completely pointless? Yes.

That's exactly why I'm fine with it. It adds nothing. I think this kind of DLC is more like a tip jar than anything, and I'm fine with that.
 

matt87_50

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the dlc issue:
I couldn't even find the DLC... nore did I in ANY WAY miss it!
I'm sorry to all those who had valve employees come round to their houses and hold guns to their heads, forcing them to buy the completely inconsequential trinkets... but I guess I was one of the lucky ones...

the "its a console port" issue:
the game had all the graphics options of any other PC game, it even has quick save/load (those were the days!), and access to the developers console...
it looked great. there is absolutely nothing that gave me any hint that there was even a console version... let alone that it was a console port...


the "its too short" issue:

no, no it isn't... not even including the co-op, its a perfectly acceptable length... and I just played portal 1 again, for the first time since it came out, doing all the radio transmission challenges as well... all in one sitting, finished it, and went "wow, I forgot how short this game is", because in contrast, portal 2 is much longer. it is, in fact, just about the right length, any longer and the narrative would have lost focus.

If you finished it in 4 hours, thats because you rushed through it... its paradoxical really, that you would rush through it as fast as possible and then complain about it not taking long enough...

points I would make:

the audio: it was brilliant! the ambiance and music! that was dynamic and changed depending on your actions, your progress in the puzzles, and the different contraptions you were using. it was a brilliant, seamless blend of sfx, music and ambiance.

it would be good if it included extras like the last one...
a true good ole PC game would include a level editor. extra l33t challenges ect.

steam:
if there is any genuine gripe to be had with the experience as with *any* game that uses steam... its STEAM!...

all of the theory, and ideas behind steam are brilliant and I wouldn't change anything... but just make it so the god damn thing WORKS!!! people have hundreds if not thousands of dollars tied up in the thing! all they want to do is get home from work, turn on their PC for their 1 hr of free time a night... and NOT have to wait HALF A ****ING HOUR just for the thing to start up!!!!!

"loading games library... forever..."
"this game is unavailable right now"
"sorry, this game automagically started a 1000terabyte update and now can't be played again until the update is finished"
*crash randomly when trying to launch a game*

honestly, the most enraging, evil, maniacal piece of software was not GLaDOS, no, steam is a FAR, FAR, FAR more formidable foe!!

oh, which brings me to my last little point... the game was too easy. maybe work a difficulty or hints system into the next one.