Poll: Is anybody else glad Ronda Rousey lost?

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Bitter_Angel said:
You should have, "Does not give a flying fuck" as an option. I enjoy watching people torque joints and beat the shit out of each other as much as the next guy, but the sad attempt to elevate it already makes me a little sick. It's a bunch of genetic freaks with mental issues in it for the money or a terminal need to compete. You don't have to like them, just enjoy the spectacle. Or rather, be honest that it's what you've been doing all along.
honestly, this is the reason I hate ALL sports. The average height of a basketball player is 6'7 [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what%27s%20the%20average%20height%20of%20a%20basketball%20player] (200 cm). The average height for a man is six feet [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what%27s+the+average+height+for+a+man+in+the+world] (182 cm)

The average american football player weighs anywhere from 242.26 pounds to 252.26 pounds [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what%27s+the+average+weight+for+a+football+player] (110 kg to 114 kg), but run Forty yards (37 meters) under 5 seconds [http://www.foxsports.com/college-football/outkick-the-coverage/reality-you-cant-run-a-sub-50-forty-022414]. Anything above that, and the NFL prospect loses serious value. Put that against the average male weight of 177 lbs (80 kg) (took the average of this [http://www.theaveragebody.com/average_weight.php] and I do know that it doesn't count Asian countries, but in all likelihood that would probably lower the number) and most of the people in that Sub Forty article not even breaking 6 seconds.... That's the reason why are paid so much. They are genetic freaks. You can't just do that with hard work, you need to be born to reach those heights.

It makes it boring to me. If you need to scour the world to find these people genetically made to do this sport, it's like enjoying the work of a robot programmed to be a flawless painter. Sure, the image is perfect... But that's what it was designed to do.
 

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erttheking said:
...Who?

I don't really know that much about the UFC. One second *Google* Ok, I can't find much. Can anyone give me some pointers as to what's happening?
Popular MMA Fighter(as in, the face of Women's MMA for the most part due to being undefeated, correct me if I'm wrong others) lost to another after a bit of blowharding.

I don't even follow it and I found more on Google dude...c'mon, up your game.

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Don't much care, though I'll agree with what someone else said about a striker winning for once. Anytime I've ever seen it, it's been a couple hits back and forth before whoever wrestles the other to the ground first to start hitting face and that's all it ends up being.

Also it's nice seeing Ronda lose for once, maybe gets more women to be up there with her in the spotlight. THough to be fair, I don't know any MMA males except for Tommy from Power Rangers either. And I think he's retired now.
 

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Batou667 said:
I derive a grim satisfaction from her losing. There's a certain schadenfreude in seeing a hype train derail and burst into flames.

I don't know enough about Rousey to dislike her personally (although her abilities seem to have been ridiculously overrated by everyone involved, her included), it's more her insufferable fans that needed shutting up. Insane statements like "she could beat Mayweather" "she's better than Bruce Lee" "she could easily beat Bjorn Hafthor" were unironically being bandied about before she had the smug sense of superiority wiped off her face. A small victory for humility and keeping a sense of perspective. Perhaps.
All I know about her is she always has a mean look on her face. Something I also find silly on the male fighters. Generally if you're a fighter and go around with your bottom lip stiff like beaker's then I'm going to want to see you knocked down. Fighters who look professional I respect. Angry and mean is just hitting that media driven image of who the villain is in most fighting movies. So we may actually have been conditioned to want fighters with dispositions like her's to fail.
 

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Yep. I don't follow UFC and I didn't even know who she was until that embarrassingly bad appearance in F&F which made it awkwardly obvious that she was supposed to be someone recognizable, and that she was a terrible actress.

Since then, she seems to be mentioned frequently but everything I've seen from her is just her being overly obnoxious about how awesome she is, or someone else doing it on her behalf.

So yeah, glad to see people who think they're untouchable get touched.
 

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I was just talking about this with one of my friends yesterday. Shes a major sports fan and loves supporting women in sports but Rousey rubs her the wrong way. I agree with her and I don't even know that much about sports. So yeah kinda glad she lost.
 

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erttheking said:
...Who?

I don't really know that much about the UFC. One second *Google* Ok, I can't find much. Can anyone give me some pointers as to what's happening?
Some woman everyone I know has a severe hard-on for got some notoriety by getting a somewhat padded record in a sport that's actually only slightly more legitimate than WWE and now people are doing effectively the same thing as the "why I won't play Fallout 4" threads.

I admit, I mostly came in here to see what was being said, but I can't bring myself to give a crap either way.

Weirdly enough, the "bad person" justification comes up a lot from people who promote some really horrible people in MMA.
 

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I'm kind of indifferent. Both women are obviously capable, the question of trash talk could be considered - but on the grounds of sheer competence, I'd say Holm is somewhat better.

Not that I'm assuming Rousey's ego to be ground down into the dirt; she already has an established career. It'll end the trash talk and make her focus on her game.

We're talking MMA fights - no matter who wins or loses, you're getting a pretty good show for the price.
 

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erttheking said:
We can be owls if we only work together!!

Ok, now i know who Ronda is...and it isn't some fish or, whatever, i dunno. Seems a positive loss, perhaps some self-awareness can come about from this. Being a person with a barely existent ego, it is heartwarming to see larger ones crack under pressure. An asshole is still an asshole, no matter what gender.

Captcha: New orleans, la ...What? Is that a reference, Cappy? Are you mocking my minimal knowledge on obscure references again??
 
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ObsidianJones said:
honestly, this is the reason I hate ALL sports. The average height of a basketball player is 6'7 [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what%27s%20the%20average%20height%20of%20a%20basketball%20player] (200 cm). The average height for a man is six feet [https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=what%27s+the+average+height+for+a+man+in+the+world] (182 cm)
Look at your link, that's the average height for the people of the Dinaric Alps, the tallest people in the world. The actual average height is much lower than that. In Canada the average height is 5'9". Not that it hurts your point.

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Didn't know who she is. Watched a video of people praising her. She looks like an absolute prick. Hitting people when they're down, cocky as high heaven. Jeez. Why do I so often hate the people propped up as feminist icons? I'm a feminist god dammit
 

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so wait, a grappler lost to a boxer? THAT MAKES ME HAPPY! :D

half the reason MMA always seems so boring to me is everyone's a grappler and the fights always end up on the ground with just a bunch of slapping going on (sorry, perspective here i know its punches) so to hear an actual fight happened... well, guess i'll have to look more...

but yea, i heard about her before this, buncha guys going on about how great she was, i had to roll my eyes (again more about the grappling then anything else i heard) so hearing the boxer beat her, well that makes me happy...
 

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I'm wouldn't say I'm glad she lost. Although I agree with why people think that. I mean I honestly liked her personality. She's good and she knew it and she was outspoken and defended herself. She wasn't preachy, she usually always backed up her talk. I don't know what caused her to lose her composure the way she did but for what ever reason she felt the need to make this one super personal. No touching gloves at the beginning was this clear sign that this for whatever reason wasn't calculated, this was a street fight that was about to happen in the ring. Her opponent was not nearly as psyched out as I think Rousey expected.

I mean it could be that most of Rousey's opponents up until were always getting flustered by her personality. And Holms just wasn't, so Rousey's normal mind game didn't have the same impact.

I guess in short, I'm not glad she lost cause I think desp
 

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It was a satisfying win that one. Not like Silva's last 2 losses against Weidman, firstly because he was just being a dick and taunting too much, and secondly because of that horrific bone break.

At least this win came about with a really nice counter, well placed kick and just overall skillful well-applied strikes. And Rousey got shown that her takedown style isn't the end all. To her credit though, despite her increase to arrogance, she has faced off strikers before, only Holly brought a lot more to the table than what she was ready for. Hopefully it serves as a head check, like to see Rousey take on a few more higher-tiered fighters.
 

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I'm fine with the whole ten-men, big I-am characters fighters like to put on but you gotta show respect. Can't refuse to touch gloves, that's just dickish - and so you deserve to get humiliated for that. I am glad she lost - not that I particularly care nor follow MMA, but it applies to all things. Be as arrogant and full of yourself as you want, but show proper respect for your opponent. You can flatter yourself without insulting everyone else. It's not all that hard.
 

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Didn't know who she is. Watched a video of people praising her. She looks like an absolute prick. Hitting people when they're down, cocky as high heaven. Jeez. Why do I so often hate the people propped up as feminist icons? I'm a feminist god dammit
Since when has she been propped up as a feminist icon? She sorta has a bit of notoriety because she's said feminism has too many people just hanging onto it without doing anything to improve themselves or the lives of others anymore. Hell, she's been attacked as being anti-feminist and a TERF because she said MMA wasn't anti-woman and her refusal to fight Fallon Fox.

She's pretty far from being a mainstream feminist icon unless you're talking about a picture of her being on a dartboard.

Also, from what I've seen of her, she's a pretty chill person all around. Big geek, though who isn't anymore in some capacity in our age range? Alot of people are asses inside of the competition, equal parts persona, ego, and just general competitiveness. Hell, even look at E-Sports and you've got a bunch of apeople that aren't genetic freaks that act the same from time to time.
 
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Since when has she been propped up as a feminist icon? She sorta has a bit of notoriety because she's said feminism has too many people just hanging onto it without doing anything to improve themselves or the lives of others anymore. Hell, she's been attacked as being anti-feminist and a TERF because she said MMA wasn't anti-woman and her refusal to fight Fallon Fox.

She's pretty far from being a mainstream feminist icon unless you're talking about a picture of her being on a dartboard.

Also, from what I've seen of her, she's a pretty chill person all around. Big geek, though who isn't anymore in some capacity in our age range? Alot of people are asses inside of the competition, equal parts persona, ego, and just general competitiveness. Hell, even look at E-Sports and you've got a bunch of apeople that aren't genetic freaks that act the same from time to time.
Saw at least one person in this thread saying she was, the video I watched had a couple people refer to her as one, and if you look up "Ronda Rousey feminist" you'll get a mixed bag of results of people saying she is or isn't one.

You might be right about it being part of her persona though, I'm not really big into the MMA or wrestling world or anything like that.

Looking at her transgender comments though isn't exactly endearing me to her more. I mean, they're better than Matt Mitrione's, but she defended his comments. I'm not sure how "He's just a man who wants to beat up women" can just be 'bad phrasing'
 

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Redryhno said:
Since when has she been propped up as a feminist icon? She sorta has a bit of notoriety because she's said feminism has too many people just hanging onto it without doing anything to improve themselves or the lives of others anymore. Hell, she's been attacked as being anti-feminist and a TERF because she said MMA wasn't anti-woman and her refusal to fight Fallon Fox.

She's pretty far from being a mainstream feminist icon unless you're talking about a picture of her being on a dartboard.

Also, from what I've seen of her, she's a pretty chill person all around. Big geek, though who isn't anymore in some capacity in our age range? Alot of people are asses inside of the competition, equal parts persona, ego, and just general competitiveness. Hell, even look at E-Sports and you've got a bunch of apeople that aren't genetic freaks that act the same from time to time.
Saw at least one person in this thread saying she was, the video I watched had a couple people refer to her as one, and if you look up "Ronda Rousey feminist" you'll get a mixed bag of results of people saying she is or isn't one.

You might be right about it being part of her persona though, I'm not really big into the MMA or wrestling world or anything like that.

Looking at her transgender comments though isn't exactly endearing me to her more. I mean, they're better than Matt Mitrione's, but she defended his comments. I'm not sure how "He's just a man who wants to beat up women" can just be 'bad phrasing'
The ideal of feminism and equality, sure, but alot of mainstream really doesn't like her(and by mainstream, I'm meaning the crap you see the most of, the teenagers and people who never left high school behind, so possibly not mainstream, but it's always what I see, REALLY trying to not make this into a feminism debate).

And neither am I, I knew wrestling existed, only actually heard about some of the crazy shit like the last few months from a friend on here in a skype group chat. Just general competition gets the trashtalk and personas going. the FGC is built on that kind of thing(like seriously, you've got people that have built themselves into villains and the most bm assholes on stage, but are the kindest people when they're not playing/working), CSGO and anything that's competitive and can be streamed is full of that kind of stuff as a joke at the absolute least.

And to be fair, just looking it up, yeah, shitty comments and all, but Fox spent like 25 years as a dude. The final part of your body to fully develop, generally the brain and for some reason some of the bones in your wrists(I think, please correct me if I'm wrong), are done by 23. Bone density and structure doesn't just disappear at that point, even after therapy. To a point, he has something to be listened to in that part of the shittiness. Hell, I think Rousey even said she didn't think there would be anything unfair about fighting someone that started the therapy before puberty and case-by-case otherwise. Of which Fox is a no for reasons other than trans-ient nature(haha bad puns), apparently she's not as good at fighting as she is at pulling her trans card, just going by comments surrounding that little snafu.

I really don't want to start a trans debate here either, so I think I'll just leave it at that.
 

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Redryhno said:
Hell, she's been attacked as being anti-feminist and a TERF because she said MMA wasn't anti-woman and her refusal to fight Fallon Fox.

She's pretty far from being a mainstream feminist icon unless you're talking about a picture of her being on a dartboard.
Being a TERF doesn't mean she can't be a feminist icon, just not in a good way.