Poll: Is Anything Possible?
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Ok. Well I can go with two things then. Either you take the one with the nations not fight at which point I say "aliens attack, go earth!". Basically the only real war between humans is to have a third party they can attack. If you mean there is no crime then I say eradicate the planet or do the isolation thing I said.Aylaine said:
There has never been world peace as long as humans have been around. To hope otherwise is just that, hope. Nothing more, because It won't happen. There will always be war to some degree or another. The Middle East has been in a constant war for thousands of years. As long as there is religion, there will be war. As long as there is currency, there will be war.crudus said:
Many people point to ancient China as proof it is possible, only on a larger scale. The whole "one ruler, through battle, unites the world under one flag." This is impossible. Even if one were actually able to literally conquer the known world, there are so many different religions, rebels, political groups, etc, that they would constantly be fighting, even if their country was taken. It's damn hard to have total control over a land that is thousands and thousands miles away from it's capital, across a ocean, and then some.
World peace is not a good example of something that's not possible. The world will have peace when everything's dead. Like Mars. I like something like, it is impossible to get me to type "I think Celine Dion is the best musician ever" Into a public forum... crap.
Very...disturbing...comparison.crudus said:
OT: Some things are impossible such as circles with four corners, my computer running Crysis, and DRM working out.
(you references OP from now on)
Even in other dimensions there are laws which CANNOT be broken, hence there are impossible things. And since there is more than likely one such law that binds the dimensions together that all of them follow. This law likely cannot be broken, and since you cannot prove such a law does NOT exist (another impossibility-proving something doesn't exist) you cannot make a rebuttal.
Money popped out of mine, does that count?Shynobee said:
EDIT: Damn, forgot to take off those 3D glasses.
EDIT2: Hey, its real! I'm going to go buy a computer than can run Crysis!
(a trip to best buy later)
Now to see it work!
(One install later)
Never mind, running Crysis is impossible.
Lewis Carroll presented a similar argument in the other direction in through the looking glass (I think, I never read the book, just saw the quote.) by the mock turtle.
It is actually quite easy to disprove something, as long as that something is everything. Say, everything is made of pineapples. With everything taken into account as is originally presented, there is bound to be a situation where this is not the case.
Alternatively, the opposite could be presented. That everything is made of not pineapple. if the other is proven to be true then this must be false.
However if you take the position that neither position denies the other then you're basically taking the mock turtle's position: That the verification of a premise does not necessarily indicate any conclusion no matter how directly it follows from said premise.
It is actually quite easy to disprove something, as long as that something is everything. Say, everything is made of pineapples. With everything taken into account as is originally presented, there is bound to be a situation where this is not the case.
Alternatively, the opposite could be presented. That everything is made of not pineapple. if the other is proven to be true then this must be false.
However if you take the position that neither position denies the other then you're basically taking the mock turtle's position: That the verification of a premise does not necessarily indicate any conclusion no matter how directly it follows from said premise.
Ok, attacking the "countries of the world are opposed/hostile to completely different ones", the same was true for black and whites back in the civil war. White people thought blacks lack courage to fight. This was proven wrong at the battle of Port Hudson, Louisiana on May 27, 1863. About a year later black soldiers were getting paid as well as white soldiers at least this is true for the union. However, by the end of the war the south was offering slaves their freedom for fighting and surviving. Now I am not saying people can forget 1000s of years of hatred long enough to shoot an alien but if the south is willing to free slaves then it could happen.Aylaine said:
Also, remember that we have free rein of which universe we are in. So aliens attacking is possible.
I thought you prolly agreed with me because of theVGStrife said:Just for the record i agree with you. But i also believe it is impossible to prove everything is possible (other than trivial solutions).spartan231490 said:Idiots, proving my point since 1995.VGStrife said:Prove itspartan231490 said:
that was a joke, i dont think your an idiot.
I also think this thread is quite pointless.
, lol. and you are correct, it is beyond our current abilities to prove that everything is possible, we would need to be able to cross dimensions, not to mention guarentee that we completely understood physics. and of course the thread is pointless, it's online discussion. all joking aside, its nothing more than an interesting philisophical question, not really useful for anything, other than killing some time.