Poll: Is everyone just a bit racist?

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Xanadu84

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Everyone is racist insofar as everyone deep down believes that they are just a little bit superior to everyone else by their very nature.

It was very tempting to say, "No, everyone has the potential to transcend petty differences, and be truly accepting. Except Puerto Ricans. They can't" But I just can't bring myself to say that, even as a complete spoof.

I also think that people ability to be a little bit racist, but still overcome that, is very promising. Its important to remember that even though racism still exists, we have done a lot of good work in eliminating it.
 

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thiosk said:
And one thing everyone agrees on: [This statement removed under threat of violent jihad].
If this forum had a reputation function, you would have just won all my spare rep to deal out.

How can it be racist to hate some one who hates as strongly as that group seems to do? It's like how I'm intolerant of intolerance. It's a bit of a contradiction, but if some one didn't go around being intolerant, then I'd never have anything to complain about. Same goes with hating hate.
 

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No. Being racist means that you think all members of a particular race have some same trait. Example: All _____ people are ______, therefore we should treat them differently. That's racism.
 

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I'm half White, and half Hispanic, so I don't see any reason to hate one race or another, when I'm two races at the same time. That said, racist jokes are funny.

Soooo.... maybe?
 

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It's definitely a possibility considering that the Implicit Association Test shows more often than not that people have automatic preferences for certain groups.
 

Comma-Kazie

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I think it's fair to say that everyone has preconceived notions about someone or something . . . whether or not those qualify as racist are subjective.
 

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The Procrastinated End said:
It depends on your definition of racism. If you think there needs to be general hatred behind it then no, everyone is not automatically racist. If you think that it just means we think differently of races that are different from our own then yes everyone is racist.
Definitely this. I'm going to use this answer from now on. Thank you.
 

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I used to be a little, but then I came to learn that every race has their own brand of stupid people. So basically I'm a "stupidist". Not to be confused with "stupidest".
 
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No, and it's because people misunderstand what 'racist' means a lot of the time.

Racism is the belief that genetic factors which consitute race provide some people superiority over others. A racist will then try to enact or spread these beliefs. If you believe that because of the colour of your skin you are better than somebody with different coloured skin, you are racist. If you are more wary around someone of a different race than you, you are not racist.

Xenophobia is the fear of the different. You can be xenophobic about other races, (afraid out of ignorance, lack of education, misinformation by the media/family) but unless you believe that you are better than other races, you aren't racist.

I would admit that I might be a little xenophobic (even then not much, I tend to judge on overal appaearance, and would be just as likely to avoid a white man in a hoody as I would a black man) but I am not racist, and I think there needs to be be clear definition, so we can understand and eliminate racism, instead of knee jerking to every ill-thought out statement.
 

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Haseo21 said:
I just watched an Avenue Q video that brings up an excellent point.
Do you think everyone is at least just a bit racist?

I believe we all have the capacity to be racist but most will never use that capacity. So basically I'm still working on my stance.
No.

I think everyone is a bit bigoted at least, but not everyone is racist. The distinction can be hard for a lot of people to seperate however.

To be a racist you need to think your ethnicity is intristically better than others OR that some other race is intristically inferior. Not all that many people believe this, in those terms. Especially people who realize that global power has been transient over the history of humanity, with differant regions of the world and the ethnicities living there having been the most advanced/civilized group at differant times.

Most people can tell you that human civilization started with dark skinned/black people around the Fertile Crescent region. Around this time other ethnicities were comparitive barbarians, running around in skins and living in caves (well, maybe not literally, but far less advanced). With time power shifted and you had the rise of the first civilizations of light skinned people in the Mediterrenean such as the greeks and romans. It wasn't
until after the fall of Rome that you saw the rise of the White Anglo-Saxons who currently define global civilization.... people who were incidently Barbarians during the time of Rome.

This is a simple version of course, but the point is that it's varied. You can't sit there and say "white people are better because of all these things we have and have done" because that wasn't always the case. You can't sit there and say "black people are better as they started civilization way back at the dawn of history" because those civilizations fell and the focus of history changed.

It's more about regions and cultures, than any real intristic natural abillity and I think most people realize that.


On the other hand most people tend to believe their culture and way of life is superior to others. What racism you see that still exists is mostly outside of the first world, and comes from situations where ethnicity is a defining part of a cultural identity and it's values.

Conflicts between Democracy, Socialism, Theocracy, Capitolism, Communism, Neo-Anarchy and all kinds of other philsophies are largely societal.

Anyone in a surviving culture by definition thinks his way is best, and if not dominant it's due to some unfair twist of fate. When a culture realizes that other ways are better, it typically dies and gets absorbed by whatever culture caused that change of heart.

As a result you have French people thinking that France should be the center of global activity and everyone should speak French. You have America believing everyone should embrace American ideals of human freedom (free speech, the right to bear arms, etc...), you have the Chinese thinking we should all acknowlege our inferiority and unite under their ways as second class citizens, and you have the Muslims thinking everyone should convert to Islam or be killed, with Allah's chosen people (Arabs) in charge as our leaders... just to name a few.

Racism exists, but it's views are not held by anyone, and throughout most of the civilized world human conflict is more idealogical than anything. In most cases where racism does exist it comes about as part of a philsophy, not so much due to genetics, but because some Holy Text says the chosen people are supposed to lead or whatever.

Such are my thoughts.


The bottom line is that I think racism is mostly a political tool, and throughout the civilized world it's more or less dead in any real sense. People see cultural conflicts/bigotry and mistakenly call it racism.

I find it akin to how the UN and liberals have redefined "Genocide" on paper to include wiping out an ideaology. Something that I find darkly amusing given the job the world did on Nazi Idealogy yet nobody starts screaming "Genocide" or seriously suggests that we should have preserved the Nazis as a major force because getting rid of them to the extent we did would be morally wrong....
 

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Racism is in the eye off the beholder, you might find it offensive, i might not.
 

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I think people are a little bit inherently discriminatory towards other races, if not outright racist. Racism is usually a doctrine of racial superiority over other races, which is something that has to be learned, though if you look at society you notice that most of the variant races (white, black, hispanic, etc etc etc) tend to congregate together, excluding others. Not out of a sense of hatred but because of a desire for commonality. As the first responder said, you push out people of other tribes because they're outsiders. I think the same logic can apply even to something like race.
Of course, this whole argument is one giant slippery slope after another, considering all the factors involved. But my personal thinking, on it's most basic level is as follows.

Inherently racist: No.
Inherently Discriminatory: Yes.
 

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I don't think everyone is a little bit racist. We probably all have a bit of a different view on other races that include stereotypes and pre-set expectations, but not everyone thinks that other races are inferior to theirs. Not all of us discriminate towards other races even if we think with stereotypes sometimes. Which I think we all do a little bit. But having a stereotype is not the same as being racist.

Here's a couple definitions of racism:
- the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
- a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
- The belief that some races are inherently superior (physically, intellectually, or culturally) to others and therefore have a right to dominate them

Yeah not everyone has views like that. We may think with stereotypes but we don't all judge another person's worth by the color of their skin.
 

Johnny Reb

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yes. its human nature. we've all made racist jokes or statements. that doesn't make us bad people.
 

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Haseo21 said:
I just watched an Avenue Q video that brings up an excellent point.
Do you think everyone is at least just a bit racist?

I believe we all have the capacity to be racist but most will never use that capacity. So basically I'm still working on my stance.
We all are a little bit judgmental, but racist? No.

We all form opinions on people based upon a person's name, gender, colour, creed etc. without even knowing them. We don't intend to try and stereotype people, it's simply us trying to classify what we see. We only become racist when we choose to let those opinions become modifiers of how we interact with or about those individuals.
 

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At least a little. I wouldn't classify us as racist (unless you're in the KKK, and in that case, go turn yourself in or something) We all have stereotypes that have small truths behind them, and even though we're all the same on the inside (forgive my children's show moral), we still have those irrational fears that those stereotypes might be partially right. It's hard not to stereotype someone when we don't know them. If there was an african american walking up to you dressed like a gangster, it'd be hard not to belive he intended to hurt you. He could just be a nice man saying hello, but that fear is still there. Why? Because it's happened to me. I should've known that he was just a nice man who just wanted to say hi, but I was still a bit scared. It's hard not to be if you don't know the guy.
However, I wouldn't classify myself as racist. Sure, I make racist jokes sometimes, but they're to my friends who are that race, and they can easily tell I'm making it up.