Poll: Is Final Fantasy 13 worth buying?
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Ill go against the grain. Vanille was a dream come true... compared to snow or hope.
3 out of the 4 strongest chars were Lightning, Vanille and Fang... and at times when you had all 3 in your party at once it felt like FFX-2:2:Return of chocobos angels.
That being said... in my personal estimation it was pretty standard fare for when Square tries to push the scifi motif (Heavily in 8, parts of X & X-2)
Personally It ranks fairly low (bottom 5) on my list of numbered installments, But ... when you got down to its core, it was basically a typical FF game, So yeah I would say its worth it. However I would suggest either buying used or buying new whenever the price dips to 20$ or less, or possibly even a two week rental. All should come to roughly the same amount and had I actually bought it myself I would NEVER had paid full price or anywhere near that for it.
Youll get 60-80 hours of content, Id say 1/3rd of it is decent, 1/3rd passable and 1/3rd downright bad.. So 1/3rd of full price is justifiable in light of 60-80 hours content. So.. Yes, but wait for it.
EDIT: Yes. I would solicit buying it used as a form of monitary protest to SE for releasing basically 1/3rd of a game that is supposed to be a flagship title.
3 out of the 4 strongest chars were Lightning, Vanille and Fang... and at times when you had all 3 in your party at once it felt like FFX-2:2:Return of chocobos angels.
That being said... in my personal estimation it was pretty standard fare for when Square tries to push the scifi motif (Heavily in 8, parts of X & X-2)
Personally It ranks fairly low (bottom 5) on my list of numbered installments, But ... when you got down to its core, it was basically a typical FF game, So yeah I would say its worth it. However I would suggest either buying used or buying new whenever the price dips to 20$ or less, or possibly even a two week rental. All should come to roughly the same amount and had I actually bought it myself I would NEVER had paid full price or anywhere near that for it.
Youll get 60-80 hours of content, Id say 1/3rd of it is decent, 1/3rd passable and 1/3rd downright bad.. So 1/3rd of full price is justifiable in light of 60-80 hours content. So.. Yes, but wait for it.
EDIT: Yes. I would solicit buying it used as a form of monitary protest to SE for releasing basically 1/3rd of a game that is supposed to be a flagship title.
if you like JRPGs in general, then this is the definition of JRPGs
buy it if you like your genre taken to such an extreme people either love it or hate it
buy it if you like your genre taken to such an extreme people either love it or hate it
The biggest flaw with this game is that if the character you're controlling dies, then it's game over.
What, your other two party members can both cast Raise? Too bad, still game over!
This was a gamebreaker for me, especially considering some of the boss battles can take up to half an hour to slog through.
And if a boss unleashes his OMGKILLJ00ALL!!1!1one move when he's at 1HP and whoever you're controlling dies, at least you'll get a shiny new FFXIII game-disc-shaped ashtray.
What, your other two party members can both cast Raise? Too bad, still game over!
This was a gamebreaker for me, especially considering some of the boss battles can take up to half an hour to slog through.
And if a boss unleashes his OMGKILLJ00ALL!!1!1one move when he's at 1HP and whoever you're controlling dies, at least you'll get a shiny new FFXIII game-disc-shaped ashtray.
The game actually gets much better later on once you get some more available paradigms. You probably shouldn't use auto-battle in this game. In my opinion, the AI is pretty spotty and it's much better if you learn about the game yourself. The characters start out pretty terribly(except for Sazh, who is continuously awesome), but most of them develop and become likable characters. Definitely buy it if you enjoyed the first part of the game, because I sure as hell didn't.
Personally though, you're asking on the wrong site. There are many great people here, but there are others who are so addicted to Bethesda and Bioware that they hate anything from Japan because they're too bigoted to see that turn based RPGs and dating sims aren't the only things coming out of the country.
And as a small note, just because it's Final Fantasy doesn't mean it's a JRPG.
Personally though, you're asking on the wrong site. There are many great people here, but there are others who are so addicted to Bethesda and Bioware that they hate anything from Japan because they're too bigoted to see that turn based RPGs and dating sims aren't the only things coming out of the country.
What does it throw out the window? It sure as hell can't be linearity because most JRPGs don't offer a plethora of side quests.Some Random Tosser said:
And as a small note, just because it's Final Fantasy doesn't mean it's a JRPG.
The one thing I like about JRPGs is that they offer whole new worlds to explore, most of which are more imaginative than Fallout (I haven't played Mass Effect yet) and most of which feel very big and immersive.Defense said:
In Skies of Arcadia, you could go around and find new discoveries, beat up giant flying monsters and special items to beef up the weapon of one of your characters. In Skies of Arcadia: Legends, you could go around and beat up bad pirates and do the Piastol side quest. But best of all, it had two different combat scenarios: Man vs Creature or Man and Ship vs Ship or Giant Beast.
In Star Ocean: The Last Hope (which I do not recommend under any circumstances despite whatever I say) is basically Final Fantasy XIII if the gameplay sucked less. The combat's much better and involving, the overworld is much less linear and there are actually side quests. Most of which basically amount to going somewhere and pressing a button, but it's gameplay is better than Final Fantasy XIII's in every way. Also, it's much prettier than Final Fantasy XIII purely because it involves you.
Final Fantasy XII had a great big world to explore and run around in and with the citizens and the big maps, it actually felt like a new world. Yes, the side quests basically amounted to killing things over and over, but this is Final Fantasy we're talking about.
Final Fantasy XIII fails to pull this off. The game does not get better. It stays the same the entire game; go here, kill something, go here, kill something, go here, kill something, bleep, boop, bleep, boop. Even when you go to Gran Pulse, it's basically Final Fantasy XII again but with HD graphics and a lot more grass.
If I had to hazard a guess as to why Final Fantasy XIII exists, it would be to wring more money out of its fans by putting 'Final Fantasy' in a game's title to play with the fan's hopes of getting the Final Fantasy VII magic back. Seeing as this is Square-Enix, they're the only ones apart from Nintendo that can get away with this.
Imagine if, say, 2K made a Bioshock sequel. They take away the research camera thing, the hacking, the exploration and the vendors. The Adam sidequests also go in the bin. The story's completely different, having no relation to the previous Bioshock games, and there's things called plasmids that aren't plasmids and Big Daddies that aren't the Bioshock Big Daddies. We'd think that 2K was completely bonkers.
Where does it throw that aspect out of the window? Gran Pulse is pretty big from what I saw, and I will be damned if most Western games have a more unique universe than FFXIII.Some Random Tosser said:
How is it better? Just because you move around doesn't make the gameplay infinitely superior. In fact, I would say it's worse because most of the strategy boils spamming techs(or whatever they're called) at your enemies and occasionally using items. XIII may not allow you to move your character around, but the paradigm shift system has more depth than the combat system in Star Ocean 4.
It was a pretty horrible game overall though.
The game does get better. In the beginning you don't even have paradigm shift and most of the battle system consists of auto-battle or stacking random moves. Most Final Fantasy games had you select options on a list but the only thing you got for your efforts other than +1 to every stat was more moves to select on a list, many of which would outclass their previous magic(Fire, Fira, Firaga) and would almost make the previous spell completely useless at that point(unless by the time you learn Firaga your normal attack still takes off less than Fire, which is pretty pitiful). Spells like Fire, Fira, and Firaga can still stay useful throughout the game because they take up different amounts of ATB segments, and paradigms don't ever become useless except for maybe a few boss fights.
Saying that the game is mostly going somewhere and killing stuff doesn't really do anything. Most games are like that, only they have useless towns with friendly villagers that let you rummage through their house as pit stops. And no, towns wouldn't work well in XIII.
Tales of Symphonia is a pretty good game. Sometimes the voice acting can get a bit bad, but it's far from the worst. It also has some pretty good replay value as well. I'd recommend it.Some Random Tosser said:
OT: In comparison to the rest of the series, FF13 is not exactly the best. If you can, do a rent first and play as much as you can. If you don't get bored, go ahead and buy it.
Give it a rent, or a buy if it's cheap. If you like it and you rented it, then buy it. No one can really tell you whether you'll like it or not, it's polarising as shown by this poll. The majority of the things people hate about the game are subjective, and aren't necessarily flaws to everyone, after all.
IMO, i really like it, as with all FF's it's really hard and i felt like never playing it again. But months later i beat the boss etc. and start playing it again.
I've only just got to the free roam part thanks to...
I've only just got to the free roam part thanks to...
...FUCKING BARTHANDELUS AND CID RAINES GRRR
I've played pretty much every FF out there, and this one easily gets into my top 3. The game gets alot of hate, mostly due to silly reasons which you don't seem to have a problem with. I would really, really recommend it for you considering the circumstances.
I have never really enjoyed many JRPG games, and most of the ones I played have been rubbish. Except for FF7, 8 and 13. First thirty hours are incredibly linear, but then it gets somewhat open world. I got it cheap and didn't expect much, but was incredibly surprised at how much I not only enjoyed it, but didn't really care much about the lack of open worldness. If you have the spare cash, and a fair amount of spare time, get it. Better than Halo Reach.
I actually tried really hard to like the actual game aspect, Because I was really enjoying the story. However After finishing it several times, I had to admit to myslef that I just wasn't enjoying playing the game.
If you really like JRPGs and their stories, then perhaps. Otherwise, probably not.
I wanted to like the game, I really did. But the game seemed to almost agressive in it's attempt to make me hate it. I did not have any agency over the characters or the story, or even the illusion that I did. The combat mechanic itself was dull and depth was added at an excruciating place. I either had no connection to characters or actively hated them and the story was confused and seemingly pointless.
I'm told it gets better but I was simply not willing to wait long enough to find out.
I wanted to like the game, I really did. But the game seemed to almost agressive in it's attempt to make me hate it. I did not have any agency over the characters or the story, or even the illusion that I did. The combat mechanic itself was dull and depth was added at an excruciating place. I either had no connection to characters or actively hated them and the story was confused and seemingly pointless.
I'm told it gets better but I was simply not willing to wait long enough to find out.