Many of you probably remember growing up with the original classics (Mario,Zelda,Metroid,Sonic,Pokemon,etc.). Now,the entire market is comprised of shooters,sequels,reboots,and zombies. So what do you think,is gaming really going down hill?
Poll: Is gaming really going down-hill?
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Yes. No. There are areas in the gaming universe that are going down, but there are also areas which are excelling. At the highest levels, the triple-A titles are full of sequels and reboots, but there are games that are changing the world. The indie world, and mobile world are stronger than ever thanks to Steam, iPhone, Droid, and a few other application stores.
Red Dead Redemption was an artistic masterpiece, and used music in ways no other game ever had, and you can't call that a downhill. Angry Birds is a mega hit for some weird reason.
Red Dead Redemption was an artistic masterpiece, and used music in ways no other game ever had, and you can't call that a downhill. Angry Birds is a mega hit for some weird reason.
I think its teetering on the brink of enormous crash- the same staid tropes and devices are trotted out with predictable reliability, and attempts at innovation can be met with astonishing hostility.
But its not all bad- as extra credits pointed out far more eloquently then I could theres some potential thats getting tapped.
Either gaming is gonna implode under the weight of its own stupidity (step on up EA and Activision) or its gonna reinvent itself in a miraculous fashion.
But its not all bad- as extra credits pointed out far more eloquently then I could theres some potential thats getting tapped.
Either gaming is gonna implode under the weight of its own stupidity (step on up EA and Activision) or its gonna reinvent itself in a miraculous fashion.
No.
Simply put.
Just looking at the mainstream console-market, you're bound to find atleast one thing to your liking. Xbox 360 and Ps3 keep the core-audiences more than happy and the Wii provides for newcomers.
It's true that there is a saturation on the market for shooters of various kinds. Personally I'm just happy the RPG-genre is seeing a sort of reignition on the mass-market and much like most RPG-gamers: moving out of the shadows.
And also... Well for everything else there's always the indie-market, which is stronger than ever thanks to Steam, PSN and XBLA.
Simply put.
Just looking at the mainstream console-market, you're bound to find atleast one thing to your liking. Xbox 360 and Ps3 keep the core-audiences more than happy and the Wii provides for newcomers.
It's true that there is a saturation on the market for shooters of various kinds. Personally I'm just happy the RPG-genre is seeing a sort of reignition on the mass-market and much like most RPG-gamers: moving out of the shadows.
And also... Well for everything else there's always the indie-market, which is stronger than ever thanks to Steam, PSN and XBLA.
I probably would have leaned a little more towards yes last year, but honestly with what's coming out this year I find that incredibly difficult to say. There are some things that I find are generally getting worse (Character designs and JRPGs come to mind, although with some notable exceptions)but there are many more things that are improving. I often get annoyed with how many games nowadays seem to be just copies of other games, other than that though I'd say the gaming industry is doing quite well.
Of course it isn't.
Yes, there are many great games from the 80s and 90' that are essentially the foundations of video games today. But would I rather play, say, the first Legend of Zelda game over Mass Effect 2?
Hell no, the industry is at it's most popular, so yes, there is going to be a lot of crap from companies trying to hop on the money train. But we are still getting excellent titles, and it's up to us as gamers to promote these great games by buying them and ignoring the crap.
Yes, there are many great games from the 80s and 90' that are essentially the foundations of video games today. But would I rather play, say, the first Legend of Zelda game over Mass Effect 2?
Hell no, the industry is at it's most popular, so yes, there is going to be a lot of crap from companies trying to hop on the money train. But we are still getting excellent titles, and it's up to us as gamers to promote these great games by buying them and ignoring the crap.
I don't think the market is at a really high level of saturation. ( I can only count 4 shooters in the past year)
Its just distracting that seems to overshadow everything else.
I think gaming is doing great, after all any progress is good progress. Some recent controversies though sets us back a bit.
Its just distracting that seems to overshadow everything else.
I think gaming is doing great, after all any progress is good progress. Some recent controversies though sets us back a bit.
Not even in the slightest.
I'm also tired of the argument that sequels equal a lack of innovation. New IPs rarely meet their full potential on their first outing.
And I do hope the hypocrisy isn't lost on you that you're complaining about sequels filling the market, when you've just mentioned Mario, Zelda and Sonic, of all things, as being the 'good old days'.
I'm also tired of the argument that sequels equal a lack of innovation. New IPs rarely meet their full potential on their first outing.
And I do hope the hypocrisy isn't lost on you that you're complaining about sequels filling the market, when you've just mentioned Mario, Zelda and Sonic, of all things, as being the 'good old days'.
No, it's just that the recession has finally hit gaming. But just like the recession, it will pass.
No, gaming isn't going down hill at all, it's just changing, some people aren't going to like the change, but that's how it goes. I can't say I'm entirely 100% pleased with the direction gaming is going, but hey, the medium is so big now, that despite that, I still have plenty to play, so overall I'm pretty satisfied.
This is in the wrong section. PM a Mod to get this moved to the Gaming Discussion section.Zachary Unkle said:
Nope.
People always remember the good parts of the past gaming like mario and zelda and what not.
They forget the millions of clowns and shitty games. Like Paladins quest, circus caper, tower toppler. Action 52.
There are a grand total of 782 (1442 on the Superfamicom) games for the SNES roughly. Wikipedia might have lied.
Name 78 awesome games, off the top of your heads (10% of the library). If you have to look it up your cheating and it doesn't count.
To anyone complaining about games copying each other these days...
Seriously. The nes, snes era was mostly just people ripping off whatever was popular. Atari era was a rip off fuckfest. I realize most of you are in Highschool but at least look it up a bit.
It's like music. People think music of the past was awesome and today it's all Bieber and Gaga. What you don't realize is that your only being exposed to the cream of the crop. Your not seeing the massive amount of shit and copies.
People always remember the good parts of the past gaming like mario and zelda and what not.
They forget the millions of clowns and shitty games. Like Paladins quest, circus caper, tower toppler. Action 52.
There are a grand total of 782 (1442 on the Superfamicom) games for the SNES roughly. Wikipedia might have lied.
Name 78 awesome games, off the top of your heads (10% of the library). If you have to look it up your cheating and it doesn't count.
To anyone complaining about games copying each other these days...
Seriously. The nes, snes era was mostly just people ripping off whatever was popular. Atari era was a rip off fuckfest. I realize most of you are in Highschool but at least look it up a bit.
It's like music. People think music of the past was awesome and today it's all Bieber and Gaga. What you don't realize is that your only being exposed to the cream of the crop. Your not seeing the massive amount of shit and copies.
He has a point. Mario 64, Donkey Kong 64 and Ocarina of Time were all shitty piles of shit with shit syrup. Sure as the sky is purple.Woodsey said:
And it sucks now that the market has been consumed by one strong genre. That's never happened before. I mean sure all of the above are platformers, but there were other popular games around that time that weren't. Like Banjo Kazooie!
No, I think it's getting better and better.
The spam-titles like Guitar Hero and CoD brings it down, but there's not exactly a lack of gems among the piles of games.
The spam-titles like Guitar Hero and CoD brings it down, but there's not exactly a lack of gems among the piles of games.
Its like it has always been, there will be 1000 shovelware titles and 1 gem. Its just "gaming" is more mainstream and pretty much everyone does it, and most of us are used to near instant satifaction (faster downloading, instant phone service, quickly made meals) so more people notice the the shovelware and the time between the gems.
I do feel games these days lose their replay value. You play through it once, twice, then its pretty much meh. But older games, I can usually play over and over and over again, even after all these years.
I do feel games these days lose their replay value. You play through it once, twice, then its pretty much meh. But older games, I can usually play over and over and over again, even after all these years.
I was born into middle-generation gaming (got my first game in 1998-ish), so my opinion is probably invalid, but I've never really liked the older-generation stuff. Middle-generation for me. PS1 will always be legendary.
And in terms of it going downhill, I guess I can agree. Games don't feel the same as they used to. There are some exceptionally good games like Mass Effect, but there's still a load of other poorer games to wade through to find some genuinely good ones. Even good franchises have gotten old and wrinkly, Final Fantasy's legs are starting to give way and it's hair's falling out.
And in terms of it going downhill, I guess I can agree. Games don't feel the same as they used to. There are some exceptionally good games like Mass Effect, but there's still a load of other poorer games to wade through to find some genuinely good ones. Even good franchises have gotten old and wrinkly, Final Fantasy's legs are starting to give way and it's hair's falling out.