Poll: Is GeoHotz to blame for PSN going down?
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Let me elaborate:Raiyan 1.0 said:
The PS3 has suffered security issues in the past, so I don't doubt wierd sh*t will happen to the system in the future; but Sony has never suffered a security breach that fucks over everyone, including users, until now. And this happened shortly after the resolution of the jailbreak incident, one that also involved ripping open the PS3 to place one's own files into it. seems to make sense that it isn't much difference to say another person also would rip open said system to take stuff OUT of it. both issues are rather similar to each other, however I never accused Geo of directly causing this personal data breach, but likely INDIRECTLY influenced this issue. Like a ripple affect of sorts.
also, excuse the ALLS CAPS words, still haven't figured out how to bold letters. >.>
This right here is a summarization of my suspicions. Although I believe GeoHotz was unaware of what he was doing at the time and it was just coincidental and unfortunate that this happened. I'm not saying ,"GE DID IT," I'm saying that he may have unknowingly have played a small part in this.megaman24681012 said:
Not the virus response, but I agree with you on the firmware deal. It's like he discovered a secret unguarded weak point in the castle's wall to the royal treasury and told everyone, but someone decided to go at the weakpoint with TNT.Longsight said:
WOW, watching that video about PS3 security and how easy it was to by-pass and
crack everything does make you think who the heck was the guy behind creating the code.
And that random code being always the same is just the dumbest thing ever.
Also, like they said it in the video, by removing the OtherOS from the old fatty PS3's
they pissed off all the hackers who used their PS3 to run Linux.
And as you can see again in the video, as soon as they removed the OtherOS the
hackers started to try jailbreaking it.
I cant remember exactly where, but someone said in one podcast i think that you do not
want to piss off people who run Linux on their PS3.
Epic fail indeed on Sony's part.
OT: No. Like Xzi said, the cracking the client open does not make a way to get to the servers.
And like someone else pointed out, Sony should have done a better job guarding the sensitive info. Or not get rid of the OtherOS and consecuantly pissing off a lot of hackers.
Who apparently are a lot smarter than the people who work for Sony.
crack everything does make you think who the heck was the guy behind creating the code.
And that random code being always the same is just the dumbest thing ever.
Also, like they said it in the video, by removing the OtherOS from the old fatty PS3's
they pissed off all the hackers who used their PS3 to run Linux.
And as you can see again in the video, as soon as they removed the OtherOS the
hackers started to try jailbreaking it.
I cant remember exactly where, but someone said in one podcast i think that you do not
want to piss off people who run Linux on their PS3.
Epic fail indeed on Sony's part.
OT: No. Like Xzi said, the cracking the client open does not make a way to get to the servers.
And like someone else pointed out, Sony should have done a better job guarding the sensitive info. Or not get rid of the OtherOS and consecuantly pissing off a lot of hackers.
Who apparently are a lot smarter than the people who work for Sony.
Systems are jailbroken all the time, which is why it's standard security practice to assume that the client is unreliable.Awexsome said:
The gun-shop analogy breaks down when you consider that guns are expected to be able to be used to breach various forms of security, while it's assumed that jailbreaks won't harm networks, since major networks are pretty much required, in the modern world, to not depend on reliable clients.
Isn't the whole reason that releasing the code was a big deal in the first place is because Sony KNEW that the code could be used for nefarious means?Tupolev said:
It's one thing to think that Sony's security wasn't sufficient but another to say that the code had no effect. Nobody knows anything if the code was or wasn't. As for Sony's security some people say that if the code could've helped then obviously Sony's security was shit but I don't buy that. Why aren't they making massive security protocols that had protected the PSN for years then?
Maybe from Sony's standpoint, but it's hard to tell. Everyone assumed that the issue was really that they were afraid of the piracy (which is what jailbreaks are primarily used to enable), which is the usual reason for cracking down on stuff like that.Awexsome said:
Nobody suspected that the jailbreaking might screw over the PSN, because making jailbreaks public just about never screws up network security, because networks are supposed to be designed with the potential for unreliable clients in mind.
Yes, this is indeed true at the the present time.
That question is exactly the reason that people are saying that, if Geohotz' jailbreak WAS what enabled the attack, they would be very angry at Sony for negligent security measures.
See, that's what I don't buy. PSN was fine for years until that code was released. I give Sony the better end of the deal here that they probably did try to prepare for hackers having that code and failed. Sure you can be made at them for failing but I'm not holding that against them now making this all their fault.Tupolev said:
I'd first go after the person who gave the criminal the means to do it first. Which would be Geo. Again all assuming that the breach was aided by the code. But until the investigation says one way or another I see it as likely that that indeed is the case.