Well, the point I was trying to make is exactly that. To call that poll a popularity contest is as much as an assumption as calling it greatest character contest. The reasons people would vote are too vague. Your assumption is that it's a popularity contest, whereas it seems the OPs assumption is that it's a greatest character's poll. I would say you're both equally incorrect.DoPo said:And need I remind you that "greatest" does not automatically mean it applies to the fictional persona and their traits. And yes, while there probably are deluded people that think Gordon Freeman has some personality to be judged, I have never seen anybody claim it. What is the percentage? Who knows but the people who seem keen on disproving the idea are disproportionally more, in my experience. As in, they keep cropping up all the time while the other mythical party remains...well, mythical.Sparrow said:Regardless, it's right there in the title. "greatest video game characters". I don't disagree that most people simply voted for Gordon Freeman because he represented their favourite game, but at the same time this isn't like putting two and two together and getting potato. It's quite clear where the OP got his logic from, and for all we know a lot of people in that poll really do think Gordon Freeman is the greatest character in video gaming. That's the issue with the kind of poll Empire magazine put out, we can't be sure why people voted for what they voted for.DoPo said:And as I commented on that link before, that is a popularity contest. OP makes it seem like there are masses of people claiming Freeman is a great fictional persona. Which a popularity contest is not about, you know.Sparrow said:http://www.empireonline.com/features/50-greatest-video-game-characters/default.asp?film=1
Except, I'm not assuming. Every such poll is a popularity contest - people vote for what they are the most familiar with. That's why you don't get many other characters. Also, if that isn't proof enough, Mario is on second place. You know, the character known for being well known, not that he is a great persona. Heck, I don't know how much of a persona he does have - there have been TV shows, movies, comics, and numerous games, and yet I think he can barely scrape enough together for a a background extra elsewhere.Sparrow said:Well, the point I was trying to make is exactly that. To call that poll a popularity contest is as much as an assumption as calling it greatest character contest. The reasons people would vote are too vague. Your assumption is that it's a popularity contest, whereas it seems the OPs assumption is that it's a greatest character's poll. I would say you're both equally incorrect.DoPo said:And need I remind you that "greatest" does not automatically mean it applies to the fictional persona and their traits. And yes, while there probably are deluded people that think Gordon Freeman has some personality to be judged, I have never seen anybody claim it. What is the percentage? Who knows but the people who seem keen on disproving the idea are disproportionally more, in my experience. As in, they keep cropping up all the time while the other mythical party remains...well, mythical.Sparrow said:Regardless, it's right there in the title. "greatest video game characters". I don't disagree that most people simply voted for Gordon Freeman because he represented their favourite game, but at the same time this isn't like putting two and two together and getting potato. It's quite clear where the OP got his logic from, and for all we know a lot of people in that poll really do think Gordon Freeman is the greatest character in video gaming. That's the issue with the kind of poll Empire magazine put out, we can't be sure why people voted for what they voted for.DoPo said:And as I commented on that link before, that is a popularity contest. OP makes it seem like there are masses of people claiming Freeman is a great fictional persona. Which a popularity contest is not about, you know.Sparrow said:http://www.empireonline.com/features/50-greatest-video-game-characters/default.asp?film=1