Poll: Is incest wrong if it's consensual?

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Loop Stricken

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FirstPersonWinner said:
retyopy said:
EDIT: A lot of people think that something like that is going on in my family. No. Just... No. The thought is just... *vomits*
Your statement shows the exactness of the wrongness.
No, only that he doesn't find his family attractive.
I don't find my family attractive and don't enjoy the image of relations between us being planted in my head. But if I had a sister I found sexually attractive and reciprocated, I'd be all up in that. Because hey, a girl.
 

DaNick667

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incest and same sex - okay. Just not both.;)
kidding of course. Incest is morally wrong, it's got a high potential of creating birth defects, which is why that has come to be. That and the fact that anyone who is sane will have a gag reflex at the idea.
 

Laser Priest

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I can't say it's objectively "Wrong".

I can say I don't support it though.

I'm fairly sure it does a number on your offspring's genetics as well.
 

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Nieroshai said:
It's taboo not because it's rape but because it contaminates the population with harmful mutations. The gene pool doesn't need to be diluted any faster than it already is, thank you very much.
Actually it kinda does what with dilution being the general dispersion of one solution in another which is what you DO when you breed with fresh genetic material...
 

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Loop Stricken said:
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your question is reducible to "Is incest wrong?" Yes, it is.
Why?

No really, why do you think this?
I think a sexual relationship should exist in conjunction with an emotionally healthy relationship. I would say that the dynamics of a family relationship cannot coexist with a healthy emotional and sexual relationship.

For example, a father and daughter have a specific emotional and relationship dynamic. I can't see that it's possible to throw sex into that mix without massively screwing it all up. I think that relationship is fundamentally incompatible with a sexual relationship.
 

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Hyrulian Hero said:
And more importantly, are people on here really defending incest? Even if it doesn't cause defects and isn't illegal, do you really want to say it's acceptable to have sex with your own parents or siblings?
Provided it's consensual, yes. I don't care what people do to or with themselves or each other provided nobody is harmed who hasn't given consent or a waiver for those BDSM people.
 

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Loop Stricken said:
Do I have to type "I'm not being serious" every time I make a post that's pretty damn obviously not serious but just questions your mindset??
But your questioning an offhand comment not aimed at any form of seriousness. If any part of what I said could be viewed as having any form of truth then yes, yes indeed you could question my mindset.

Out of curiosity, do you watch a comedy show and spend the entire time questioning the views and thoughts of whoever wrote it?

My mindset is "gee, what can I type thats about as likely to happen as the giant lottery hand smashing through my front door and poking me in the eye to let me know i've won millions".

I'm never going to sleep with a family member, I will never smear my genitals in fish paste (unless my wife takes up strange cravings) and I live in a town thats pretty notorious for having no piranah anyway near it.

It was a lighthearted, offhand comment. It doesn't need analysing.

I'm going to take a wild stab in the dark at you being the type of person that needs a joke explaining before you "get it".
 

Loop Stricken

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mikespoff said:
Loop Stricken said:
mikespoff said:
your question is reducible to "Is incest wrong?" Yes, it is.
Why?

No really, why do you think this?
I think a sexual relationship should exist in conjunction with an emotionally healthy relationship. I would say that the dynamics of a family relationship cannot coexist with a healthy emotional and sexual relationship.

For example, a father and daughter have a specific emotional and relationship dynamic. I can't see that it's possible to throw sex into that mix without massively screwing it all up. I think that relationship is fundamentally incompatible with a sexual relationship.
Fair enough, at least you have a reason other than just "eww no" or "because God said so". Kudos.
 

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Honestly from a general standpoint no nothings truly wrong with it, it much like gay marriage and interracial marriage was just tabooed as time went on even tho history has many many instances of incest in the rich and poor. Much like history is full of 30 year old men marrying a 13 year old girl. As time goes on views change and the laws do too.

However from a scientific standpoint yes it's very wrong and can cause serious birth defects and health concerns and should not be done to conceive a child.

The main problem with the responses on this post is people instantly condemn it and then assume your family is involved with incest when you simply asked a legitimate question. This actually shows one of the fatal flaws of society because unless we can allow people to raise questions no matter how strange or unfavorable it is without persecuting them for it we will never advance.
 

Loop Stricken

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Rawne1980 said:
Out of curiosity, do you watch a comedy show and spend the entire time questioning the views and thoughts of whoever wrote it?
Maybe on the second or third viewing because why not? It's interesting.

And for someone essentially calling me humourless you seem to have missed the joke that is me replying to you in exactly the same manner as your offhanded lighthearted tone.
Exactly. What with being the same words.

This is me explaining the joke.
 

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Loop Stricken said:
FirstPersonWinner said:
retyopy said:
EDIT: A lot of people think that something like that is going on in my family. No. Just... No. The thought is just... *vomits*
Your statement shows the exactness of the wrongness.
No, only that he doesn't find his family attractive.
I don't find my family attractive and don't enjoy the image of relations between us being planted in my head. But if I had a sister I found sexually attractive and reciprocated, I'd be all up in that. Because hey, a girl.
I am so insulted by that. You just assume that all boys think about is sex? WRONG! I really don't think about that. Ever. But I'm just one guy, I can't vouch for the rest of my gender.
 

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Loop Stricken said:
Nieroshai said:
It's taboo not because it's rape but because it contaminates the population with harmful mutations. The gene pool doesn't need to be diluted any faster than it already is, thank you very much.
Actually it kinda does what with dilution being the general dispersion of one solution in another which is what you DO when you breed with fresh genetic material...
To explain myself then, we need to keep harmful mutations that are preventable to a minimum. That works best when new genetic material is added. Stagnation then. Avoiding stagnation is the goal.
 

FernandoV

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If it's consensual, of course. If not, then no means yes, amirite? :3 No, but, it's fine it they're both into it.
 

WolfThomas

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It depends, my stance is that any family on family is wrong regardless of if they're blood related. There's stuff like the Westermark effect that have to go wrong before it occurs and that's at least a pointer of something strange going on.

But say too people are seperated at birth and meet much later, I don't think it's that wrong if they didn't know in the first place, then decide to continue.

A lot of people who say it's okay seem to not have siblings, be it full, half, foster, step etc.

Edit: Vertical (Parent-child) is never okay, there's too much of an imbalance of power and potential for indoctrination.
 

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Incest is dangerous to future generations, as inbreeding produces children who are more likely to have birth defects and hereditary conditions. With so many people with hereditary conditions and birth defects running around, it would be harmful to the human gene pool.
 

Zac Kookoo-kachu

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incest is best, why go across the street when you can go across the hall......
but in all seriousness, no its actually pretty wrong..... i put that ^ up as a joke.
 

Gralian

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It's an interesting question. Initial reaction is to recoil in horror at the thought, but then i stop to think - what if i had a very attractive sister my own age? I can look at my friend's sisters and find them sexually attractive (IE not finding it weird that it's the same "gene pool" as the friend in question, so to speak, if that makes any kind of sense) so would i be able to feel the same way towards a biological sister who was undeniably attractive? The answer is... i don't know. I'm an only child, so i have no idea what it's like to have siblings. The stereotype is that siblings never get on and always argue (the OP said he was "close" to his sister but despises her for example. How does that work?) but i'm almost certain there are far more loving relationships between siblings than that, and i suppose it's about blurring that line between love and "love", which might be a dangerous notion. Though, thinking about it, when you're with a new partner you might be nervous about being judged about each and every thing, but if it's your sibling, they already know everything there is to know about you. You'd be able to be totally relaxed around them.

Morally, i would have to say that it is wrong, because of societal context. We've been taught it's wrong and that is that. But i still find it curious to mull over the question. After all, our reaction to incest now is the same as what was society's reaction to homosexuality not that long ago.

And for those talking about birth defects being the major problem, what if it was homosexual incest? (2 guys or 2 girls)? That point no longer becomes valid.
 

Loop Stricken

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retyopy said:
Loop Stricken said:
FirstPersonWinner said:
retyopy said:
EDIT: A lot of people think that something like that is going on in my family. No. Just... No. The thought is just... *vomits*
Your statement shows the exactness of the wrongness.
No, only that he doesn't find his family attractive.
I don't find my family attractive and don't enjoy the image of relations between us being planted in my head. But if I had a sister I found sexually attractive and reciprocated, I'd be all up in that. Because hey, a girl.
I am so insulted by that. You just assume that all boys think about is sex? WRONG! I really don't think about that. Ever. But I'm just one guy, I can't vouch for the rest of my gender.
Alright, so you want me to retract my defence of your reaction to thoughts of you slipping one to your family?