Poll: Is incest wrong if it's consensual?

[Loop Stricken]

Incest is wrong because its taboo.

Bit like the gays and the interracials. I'm sure it didn't end well for those.

Meh, I'm not giving a judgement, just stating a fact. Who knows what public opinion is going to look like ion the future. Incest might be the way of the future for all I know.

Ah now, let's not go crazy here.

We all know it'll be cloning. Sex will be done just for pleasure, and procreation will be done in a glass jar so as not to ruin our awesome future figures. Like Demolition Man!

... but you proceeded to try and argue against Christianity specifically. Make of that what you will.

It's the default religion.

 

[OpticalJunction]

What 2 consenting adults choose to do in the privacy of their homes is no business of mine. If that 'activity' produces offspring with genetic defects, that is a concern for the parents and no one else. Many couples with hereditary diseases like a predisposition to cancer still choose to have children, so I don't see why incestuous couples cannot.

The only point at which it is wrong is when one is manipulated, brainwashed or otherwise forced to do something against their will, or if either person is a child.

 

[Ensiferum]

And speaking of coming across as "high and mighty," what are your standards if they're so much better than mine? Or is your reason for posting simply a love for passive-aggressive word twisting? Because in that case you're trolling.

1) That the affairs and emotions of others are their own business and I have no real valid reason to be disgusted by them.

2) I do love me some passive-aggressive word twisting, yes.

1. If the affairs and emotions of others are their own business, why are you challenging mine by replying to them?

2. Oh I guess that's my answer.

 

[Nieroshai]

It's taboo not because it's rape but because it contaminates the population with harmful mutations. The gene pool doesn't need to be diluted any faster than it already is, thank you very much.

Actually it kinda does what with dilution being the general dispersion of one solution in another which is what you DO when you breed with fresh genetic material...

To explain myself then, we need to keep harmful mutations that are preventable to a minimum. That works best when new genetic material is added. Stagnation then. Avoiding stagnation is the goal.

Love and happiness is more important than genetic diversity. Relationships are about feelings, not producing the best child. It's an irrelevant point anyway as incest doesn't automatically result in children. This would be an argument against children being born from incest, not incest itself. Kind of like how you ban shooting people instead of banning guns entirely. Finally, if genetic stagnation is "wrong" we should ban living on islands since those tend to be pretty stagnant.

There we go again equating sex with love. This disagreement has ended our discussion since this is the roadblock no one gives on. Love and happiness do not require sex.

 

[TheLoneBeet]

If the person is blood-related in pretty much any way.. YES.. it is still sooo wrong on many levels even if they consent. That's my opinion anyways.

EDIT: Kinda pissed.. I just noticed the title says poll but I didn't get to vote. GRRR!

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

No, its not alright. Why do you think the kiddies come out all wrong? Nature is saying "DON'T FUCKING DO IT."

 

[Kinguendo]

Well, what if a parent grooms their children for that kind of relationship when they are old enough to consent? Its a horrifying thought.

That and if they had a child, its all well and good to say that its their problem then and so on but they cant exactly take that child with them when they die and then it becomes the problem of other people.

 

[Conza]

So my family and I were eating, and incest became, albiet briefly, the subject. So that got me thinking: is incest wrong if it's consensual?

EDIT: A lot of people think that something like that is going on in my family. No. Just... No. The thought is just... *vomits*

Urgh, no, and its appreciated by all the clarification that this is not a case study, and is indeed all hypothetical, thank you for that confirmation there.

Anyway, its just not good, at all. Basically 85-90% of the time, its hetrosexual, and that puts into question the type of off-spring developed by such a union, which would likely have issues (beyond, parents = uncle/aunt + mum(mom)/dad). Deformaties, mental issues, I apologize if someone here reading this is from one of those unions, I mean what could you do if you were right? But basically, its just wrong on all levels.

The last comment on page 1 by 'Lyri' says 'Nobody should stop anyone from being together'. Well in this case, nobody should be in the unfortunate, uneducated situation, not to know the dire and horrible consequences of two people of the same blood, fornicating, and the laws make sense to prohibit such behaviour.

EDIT: courtesy quote, in case you'd like to rebut by statement .

If I had a sister that I thought was sexually attractive and she was accepting of the advances, I'd screw her.

People are people, if you like them then do as you wish with them but you have to be aware of the consequences whatever they be.
Nobody should stop anyone from being together.

 

[Suncatcher]

Given the increased chance of a variety of birth defects that results from incest, I think that it's wrong to do anything with a chance of producing offspring. So stick to oral and anal.

 

[Loop Stricken]

No, its not. Why do you think the kiddies come out all wrong? Nature is saying "DON'T FUCKING DO IT."

Quite right!
Apart from the parts that were wrong!
Which was all of it!
Well done! Thanks for playing!

 

[Loop Stricken]

Well in this case, nobody should be in the unfortunate, uneducated situation, not to know the dire and horrible consequences of two people of the same blood, fornicating, and the laws make sense to prohibit such behaviour.

Well frankly that makes one of you.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

No, its not. Why do you think the kiddies come out all wrong? Nature is saying "DON'T FUCKING DO IT."

Quite right!
Apart from the parts that were wrong!
Which was all of it!
Well done! Thanks for playing!

Ah, so you're saying that there are no birth defects from such unions?
Or are you pointing out that typo in the beginning, which I WENT BACK AND FIXED when I noticed.

 

[Denamic]

Nope.
There's no good reason to forbid two consenting adults from banging each other.
Especially not when in the privacy of their own home.
It's none of our business.

To forbid it on a genetic standpoint is called "eugenics".

 

[Loop Stricken]

No, its not. Why do you think the kiddies come out all wrong? Nature is saying "DON'T FUCKING DO IT."

Quite right!
Apart from the parts that were wrong!
Which was all of it!
Well done! Thanks for playing!

Ah, so you're saying that there are no birth defects from such unions?
Or are you pointing out that typo in the beginning, which I WENT BACK AND FIXED when I noticed.

Wow, and I thought I was paranoid.
No, I'm saying that the risk of birth defects are overblown and not a great deal above what they'd be from the union of two unrelated parents.
Only with successive generations of close inbreedings do the real deformations and whatnot come about.

 

[SimonWren]

Yes, because it's consensual, and because condoms and birth can be used.

 

[Troublesome Lagomorph]

No, its not. Why do you think the kiddies come out all wrong? Nature is saying "DON'T FUCKING DO IT."

Quite right!
Apart from the parts that were wrong!
Which was all of it!
Well done! Thanks for playing!

Ah, so you're saying that there are no birth defects from such unions?
Or are you pointing out that typo in the beginning, which I WENT BACK AND FIXED when I noticed.

Wow, and I thought I was paranoid.
No, I'm saying that the risk of birth defects are overblown and not a great deal above what they'd be from the union of two unrelated parents.
Only with successive generations of close inbreedings do the real deformations and whatnot come about.

So the inbreeding is fine in your opinion if you're the one starting it? Wondrous.

 

[K_Dub]

Eh, I mean, if it's consensual, then there's really nothing wrong with it. I personally find it gross, but that doesn't make it wrong.

 

[Loop Stricken]

No, its not. Why do you think the kiddies come out all wrong? Nature is saying "DON'T FUCKING DO IT."

Quite right!
Apart from the parts that were wrong!
Which was all of it!
Well done! Thanks for playing!

Ah, so you're saying that there are no birth defects from such unions?
Or are you pointing out that typo in the beginning, which I WENT BACK AND FIXED when I noticed.

Wow, and I thought I was paranoid.
No, I'm saying that the risk of birth defects are overblown and not a great deal above what they'd be from the union of two unrelated parents.
Only with successive generations of close inbreedings do the real deformations and whatnot come about.

So the inbreeding is fine in your opinion if you're the one starting it? Wondrous.

If I'm the one starting it, I'm the one having the fun!

 

[Grant Hobba]

It creates a very large chance of several mental illnesses and physical defects.

yes it is always wrong.