Poll: Is it ever moral to kill when it is not in self defense?

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Most would agree that, as a general rule, killing is wrong. It is also accepted that an exception to that rule is to kill in self defense. However, are there other exceptions?

I believe there are.

I believe that if someone in a position of power is abusing their power to kill thousands and make the world a worse place, not only is it moral to kill them if given the chance, but it would be immoral not to kill them. Just to clear up, I'm talking about someone like, on the level of Hitler. Not just some president you happen to disagree with.

Do you agree?
 

Kuchinawa212

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Well If I could go back in time and kill Hitler, even if he personally never tried to harm me, I'd do it

Or even better. Caligula! That guy was off his rocker!
 

grimsprice

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If i know, for a fact, that someone is going to kill 2 people. And i know for a fact that there is no other alternative than to kill them. I will kill them. Period. However, if there is even a shadow of a doubt about either point, then i would seek a different method.
 

Shock and Awe

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If it is to defend yourself, or another person it is. As long as we are talking about non-war killings, then things get muddled.
 

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grimsprice said:
If i know, for a fact, that someone is going to kill 2 people. And i know for a fact that there is no other alternative than to kill them. I will kill them. Period. However, if there is even a shadow of a doubt about either point, then i would seek a different method.
You have a sound ideology. Much applause and such
 

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Wardog13 said:
If it is to defend yourself, or another person it is. As long as we are talking about non-war killings, then things get muddled.
The question excludes self-defense because its too easy of an exemption. It is true though that in war things to get muddled.
 

lostclause

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Yes when they're still a threat to others, when their incarceration won't solve the problem.
 

Valate_v1legacy

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Yes- but you're talking to someone who kills everyone they see in their head 6-10 times whenever they see them.
 

Kpt._Rob

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I would say that anyone who is going to maliciously kill someone else has forfieted his/her right to remain unharmed. Regardless, it would still be preferable to find some way to stop them without killing them (and attempt to rehabilitate them), but if the only way to save the life of a victim was to kill the attacker, then I would say it is the moral thing to do.
 

GreyWolf257

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People who it would DEFINATELY be a moral decision to kill (Disregarding how history would probably be f'ed up, of course):

Hitler
Stalin
Mao Ze Dong
Mamouhd Amedenijad (I don't want to look up spelling)
Atila the Hun
Saddam Houssein (Again)
Osama Bin Laden

[Generic millions of other evildoers]

And the creator of Diet Snapple
 

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GreyWolf257 said:
People who it would DEFINATELY be a moral decision to kill (Disregarding how history would probably be f'ed up, of course):

Hitler
Stalin
Mao Ze Dong
Mamouhd Amedenijad (I don't want to look up spelling)
Atila the Hun
Saddam Houssein (Again)
Osama Bin Laden

[Generic millions of other evildoers]

And the creator of Diet Snapple
Good list. I agree with all of those. Although some of my communist friends might skin you for the Stalin one (I'm a socialist and don't much care for soviet russia so I don't like Stalin)
 

A Weary Exile

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I personally believe in justified revenge, say a man murders your family he no longer deserves to live; but this would only be if the law failed at it's job of punishing those who deserve it.