Except that you're only looking at one aspect of it. The extended periods of mass shirtlessness and aboard a vessel composed entirely of men helps the case, certainly, but look at Maverick and Iceman over the course of the film. The term 'belligerent sexual tension' comes to mind. And consider that in films with a male and a female character in competition with one another, the scene when they argue closer and closer to the other's face is almost invariably when they suddenly start making out.Sober Thal said:
Poll: Is it fair to call Top Gun gay?
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I will always love Top Gun, it's a fun little piece of whatever. That being said, it is gayer than two mustaches fightin' over a dong.
For a Reagen-Era war movie, they got away with a lot of subtext.
For a Reagen-Era war movie, they got away with a lot of subtext.
I think you're confusing 'homoerotic' with simply being visually appealing to homosexuals. The closest it ever comes to actual homoeroticism is Leonidas' encounter with Xerxes, and that approach is rejected through sheer virtue of Leonidas rejecting Xerxes' offer.Gralian said:
Wait, what? I wouldn't describe Spartan culture as 'homoerotic' in the same sense that I wouldn't describe Elton John as 'homoerotic.' Their wedding ritual alone made it clear [http://books.google.com/books?id=JgFlxZ14hkoC&lpg=PP1&pg=PA122#v=onepage&q&f=false] that the main point of encouraging heterosexual sex at all was because they would die out if they didn't make new Spartans.Gralian said:
In other words, it goes past homoeroticism when the regularly-applied method of reproduction is to make the woman look as butch as possible, and then put her in a dark room so the man can temporarily look past the fact that he's having sex with a woman.
I thought you meant that TV show with that old ex marine guy who made me want to punch him in the jaw every time he said "ooh rah" at first... I was kinda disappointed because I wanted to see if anyone else shared my conditioned hatred.
On topic, no not really, actually, no not at all.
On topic, no not really, actually, no not at all.
Wait, what? I'm referring to actual scenes, not "fantasies." The way they approach their rivalry is a male/female one in the spades, except it cuts short of them actually exploding into a bout of hate-sex. That's why it's a homoerotic subtext. If they'd started making out, it wouldn't be 'subtext.' It would just be plain old gay.Sober Thal said:
The link for your image is broken, should be http://i.imgur.com/EMzJl.pngDVS BSTrD said:
Anywho, yea, Top Gun ain't entirely gay, just the Volleyball bit, that's flaming.
It's the ultimate bromance movie. I'd say it's pretty gay, but I doubt it was intentional. Although it has the best theme music ever. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNofXKppggQ&feature=fvst]
Incredibly homo-erotic? Yes. From scenes involving Val Kilmer making predatory biting motions at Tom Cruise to the infamous volley-ball scene, I'd say Top Gun is pretty gay. Whether it's intentional or not, I'm unsure.
yes! that movie is one of mancrushiest films ever made. Not to mention it stars Tom Cruise, who, legally, is of course as straight as any common ruler, but cannot help but give off an effeminate air about him that makes him seem considerably less so.Squilookle said:
Calling it "gay" is a bit of a stretch. It's very 80's though. And c'mon, let's be realistic...the volleyball scene in Top Gun, was for the WOMEN. Get over it. Guy's movies get that kind of fan service(girls in swimsuits washing cars, anyone?), why can't women get some eye candy too?
