Poll: Is it me, or does PETA seem like an inhuman group?

[Saltyk]

Anyone who has the audacity to say PETA is "doing their best" has not taken the time to actually research them, they actively promote violence, give big paychecks to anyone willing to firebomb animal research facilities, completely ignore any sort of science in their belief that animal testing cannot help humans, and over the past decade or so they have killed 86% of the animals they "rescued"

Edit: oh and this

Before watching that, I didn't like PETA. But after I watched that video (about a year ago) I can safely say that I hate PETA. They're even worse than I thought they were.

 

[Pscyon]

So in summary, what is "sport hunting?" The killing of an animal for meat, or when an animal is killed only for a rack or some trophy to hang on the all?

I'd say the latter. If you're actually going to eat it (or like supply a butcher or something for eatish purposes) then the hunt had a purpose. Also goes for putting down animals that are dangerous to others and/or humans, like say if there's an over-abundance of mountain lions. If merely hunting for a trophy or to have something to do on a Sunday afternoon, I'd say that's "for sport"... something I personally don't like, but hey, if it's legal then who am I to argue.

 

[Saltyk]

Two points...well, one point, and a side conversation that could be moved over to another thread I suppose.

I recently had the opportunity to work with two vegans who were previously employed with PETA. They described it as one of the worst work experiences they had ever had. Seen from the inside, they described a hypocritical, demoralizing, and all around nasty place to work. Pair that up with the extreme measures that PETA resorts to when demonstrating, you have an organization that does a LOT more damage than good, just in the negative appearance it gives to the animal rights movement.

I've noted a lot of people saying here that they are against "hunting for sport." I am just looking for some clarity here. Living in rural Colorado, hunting for meat is very much a part of the history of the area and a popular current activity. By law (in Colorado at least) you are required to take almost all of the animal with you after you kill it (pretty much everything except the internal organs, the neck, head, and ribs). I was wondering if this is considered "sport" hunting in the eyes of other posters.

I, as a hunter, am outraged when I see or hear about a bad hunting practice (al la killing an animal for the rack without taking the meat, parading the carcass around, or not tracking an animal that the hunter has wounded). Many other hunters that I have met feel the same. Many of these practices are outright illegal (again, at least in Colorado. I would assume it is similar in most states, but I don't know for certain without doing research).

So in summary, what is "sport hunting?" The killing of an animal for meat, or when an animal is killed only for a rack or some trophy to hang on the all?

I can say that every hunter I have ever known/met/talked to hunts for the meat, too. So, I'm curious as to what "hunting for sport" is. As far as I can tell, there aren't many that do. If any. A friend just told me that he got a deer and plans to come over with some venison (deer meat) to cook out.

Also, from everything I know, hunters do more to protect wildlife and wilderness than any other single group. So, why do people hate on hunters?

 

[Tzekelkan]

Anyone who has the audacity to say PETA is "doing their best" has not taken the time to actually research them, they actively promote violence, give big paychecks to anyone willing to firebomb animal research facilities, completely ignore any sort of science in their belief that animal testing cannot help humans, and over the past decade or so they have killed 86% of the animals they "rescued"

Edit: oh and this

I was just coming to post this.

PETA is led by insane, illogical people. Nothing they ever did made any sense if you actually knew the context and the repercussions behind their actions. And like others have said, don't get me started on the hypocrisy. Just watch that Penn and Teller episode.

 

[SenseOfTumour]

PETA kills 95% of the animals in its 'care'?

We coulda eaten those, and skipped the trip to Burger king!

Honestly, there's a ton of great animal charities out there (putting aside the fact that we give more to save puppies than we do for old people, the sick, the starving, kids, or homeless people.), but PETA just ain't helping their case. They just make all charities look bad, like the lone nutter at an occupy rally.

 

[William Dickbringer]

Now before everyone jumps me at once saying," How dare you, PETA is doing their best to, blah, blah ,blah," insert soapbox speech back there. I said INHUMAN not INHUMANE, big difference.

they're both (you're not gonna get a soap box about PETA they aren't well liked around here for what they do) they kill more than save then try to say that they help hell they bailed people from jail for firebombing an animal testing lab there's better options for helping animals NOT PETA

 

[Lunar Templar]

Anyone who has the audacity to say PETA is "doing their best" has not taken the time to actually research them, they actively promote violence, give big paychecks to anyone willing to firebomb animal research facilities, completely ignore any sort of science in their belief that animal testing cannot help humans, and over the past decade or so they have killed 86% of the animals they "rescued"

Edit: oh and this

only 86%? i thought it was in the 95-98% range.

other wise what Furioso said.

and that pen and teller ep >.> disturbing to say the least

 

[girzwald]

PETA is the most evil organization ever created. They hate all humans. Any other organization that hated some sort of section of humanity, at least had respect for another part of it. PETA hates all humans.

That aside from they are completely illogical.

I can't go into a bears territory, how dare I, and it has the right to defend itself. But it can come into mine, and I can't defend myself.

I can't eat a tiger, but it can eat me. And any other animal it wants to.

Can't use anything tested on animals. Unless you are a high up PETA official with diabetes on insulin.

 

[Furioso]

Anyone who has the audacity to say PETA is "doing their best" has not taken the time to actually research them, they actively promote violence, give big paychecks to anyone willing to firebomb animal research facilities, completely ignore any sort of science in their belief that animal testing cannot help humans, and over the past decade or so they have killed 86% of the animals they "rescued"



only 86%? i thought it was in the 95-98% range.

other wise what Furioso said.

and that pen and teller ep >.> disturbing to say the least

Well your half right, it's 86% total since they were created, since their founding that number has increased each year, with last years figures in the 95-98% range, so they are getting more bloodthirsty

 

[Lizard Queen]

I always knew PETA were nutcases.

Thanks to the video they have been upgraded to dangerous nutcases.

 

[Dimitriov]

I think so. If you are human then caring about other species more than your own is stupid.

Doesn't mean you have to unnecessarily be cruel to animals, you obviously shouldn't.

For example: testing makeup on animals? yeah that's dumb. Testing medicines, drugs, etc. on animals? Yeah, sorry PETA but that's clearly beneficial to all of us.

Torturing an animal for no reason, or mistreating your pet? Yes, that's awful. Eating animals because they are delicious and nutritious? Obviously a completely natural and good thing.

 

[Lunar Templar]

Anyone who has the audacity to say PETA is "doing their best" has not taken the time to actually research them, they actively promote violence, give big paychecks to anyone willing to firebomb animal research facilities, completely ignore any sort of science in their belief that animal testing cannot help humans, and over the past decade or so they have killed 86% of the animals they "rescued"



only 86%? i thought it was in the 95-98% range.

other wise what Furioso said.

and that pen and teller ep >.> disturbing to say the least

Well your half right, it's 86% total since they were created, since their founding that number has increased each year, with last years figures in the 95-98% range, so they are getting more bloodthirsty

but they love animals .... >.> ....

yeah, I'm so glad we (my family) don't give these fuckers money. personally i'm waiting for karma to kick in, bound to be a massive back lash

 

[Lucian The Lugia]

PETA takes kid-friendly icons such as McDonalds and Mario and turns them into sick and twisted bizarro versions. They demonize big industry and rely on shock value rather than truth.

ASPCA, they know what abuse is. PETA's just a bunch of wack-jobs.

 

[Belaam]

On paper, I love PETA.

In reality, I would go to great lengths to not be accidentally associated with them.

 

[CarlMin]

I understand fully well why they eat vegetables and fruits (maybe even animal byproducts) but when it's not limited by religion, I don't know.

Not offense but doesn't that say more about you than PETA? Reasons people might want to go vegetarian includes:


The environmental impact of the meat industry
Personal health
Animal ethics (of course)
The impact the western food industry have on nations with poverty (meat is extremly expensive)




Not that I'm all that crazy about PETA. I think that they've done a lot of good but there are many areas where I'd like to see them improve.

 

[Vault101]

As a vegan, anti-fur, animal rights activist (*flame shields up*), I kind of see PETA as the old crazy uncle of the animal rights movement. Their heart's in the right place, but they take everything too far, they can be quite dickish, and they say the worst things at the worst possible moment. I'd be happier if they went away, but I wouldn't look down on someone for donating to them, it's not like they're the AFL or anything.

If you're looking for a less crazy alternative, try ASPCA or Mercy for Animals.

And I'm not looking to debate with anyone, but the way I see it, if there are two products that are equally viable, and one of the products required killing an animal to make, you should go with the other product. That's my opinion at least, but I respect yours if you disagree.

hahaha "AFL"...I imediatly thourght of "Australian football league".. I dont suport australian rules in any way shape for form

anyway as far as im concerned PETA is a terrorist/extremist organisation no better than KK or WBC

 

[MammothBlade]

Yeah. PETA is obviously run by reptilians disguised as humans. They seek to undermine the human species by weakening its domination over other animals.

 

[BOOM headshot65]

Well, 3 things...

1. Sport Hunting
No big complaints here. I come from a big time family of hunters. My Grandpa, Dad, and Brother hunt, and my grandpa goes fishing every weekend. However, It is not like we ONLY take the rack from a deer, or just hang the fish on the wall. 1st, they follow permits to the letter, and it is done to keep the herd from growing too big, for those who dont know. 2nd, We take the meat from what we shoot or catch and eat it. Was it hunted soley for the food. No. But it still wasnt wasted.

2.Animal Testing and Crualty
Testing is Ok, as long as it doesnt jump to crualty. I am happy they would test it on an animal before giving it to people and there be BIG problems. However, Dogfighting...NO, Cockfighting...NO, Beating animals...NO. The only time an animal should be killed is if it is a threat to someone. Like, we have to shoot at Coyotes all the time at my house.

3.PETA Itself
...uh....Really, I am just speachless

 

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hahaha "AFL"...I imediatly thourght of "Australian football league".. I dont suport australian rules in any way shape for form

anyway as far as im concerned PETA is a terrorist/extremist organisation no better than KK or WBC

Oh whoops, I meant ALF, (Animal Liberation Front), and they make PETA look like sound, respectable individuals.

Also, I wouldn't deny the WBC comparison, although I'm trying to think of a slightly less crazy group. Again, I think most members are misguided but definitely not evil.