Poll: Is it okay to make straight jokes?
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you have to remember that jokes at someone elses expense are still at their expense, so joke all you want but done be surprised when they get pissed off at youMarter said:
Jokes are jokes.
I don't really thing people should freak out so much about humour really.
So, sure, go ahead.
I don't really thing people should freak out so much about humour really.
So, sure, go ahead.
although the joke was not that good, wouldn't it seem odd to you if they made the same joke if you were leaving the room with someone of the same sex?
Jokes kinda depend on the people though, i would hardly get offended by any jokes my friends could come up with. : p
Jokes kinda depend on the people though, i would hardly get offended by any jokes my friends could come up with. : p
I disagree. There is a time and a place for jokes, and at the wrong time or place, a joke can be extremely offensive. And in those cases it would be your problem for having such poor taste to tell the joke then, not the other people for being offended.spartan231490 said:
This. I find it very strange that no one else has noticed that the joke in question was in fact a gay joke... Which is probably why you felt uncomfortable about telling it, subconsciously you realized that.Kpt._Rob said:
OT: As for your question I certainly don't mind jokes at my own expense, as long as they are funny. Jokes about straight white guys... hmmm... sounds boring, but I would love to be proved wrong.
I remember, after a gig in the US, a rather large woman came up to Jimmy Carr to confront him about some of his more misog..mysojin....sexist material, especially the amount of fat jokes.
"You know Mr Carr, I do believe you're fattist!'
'No love...' as he looks her up and down, 'I think you'll find YOU'RE fattest'
The point being I don't believe that's sexist, or anti fat people, or even offensive to all but the most easily riled of people, as it's not intended to be mean, it's all based in wordplay.
Whatever a joke is about, the important parts are, is it funny? and secondly, is iy mean spirited and meant to insult? I think you can joke about anything fairly safely so long as you're not aiming to offend.
"You know Mr Carr, I do believe you're fattist!'
'No love...' as he looks her up and down, 'I think you'll find YOU'RE fattest'
The point being I don't believe that's sexist, or anti fat people, or even offensive to all but the most easily riled of people, as it's not intended to be mean, it's all based in wordplay.
Whatever a joke is about, the important parts are, is it funny? and secondly, is iy mean spirited and meant to insult? I think you can joke about anything fairly safely so long as you're not aiming to offend.
You feel that way as a flavor of majority guilt. I'm not entirely sure "guilt" is the right word for it, but that's the "wrong" behind it. You wouldn't make jokes to a black man about him not being white, so you wouldn't make jokes to homosexuals about not being heterosexual. It's different when the minorities are making fun of themselves, but you, the majority, is still making fun of your homosexual friends, the minority when you call them closet heterosexuals.Drake_Dercon said:
The way that poll's worded seems needlessly convoluted, but I think I get what you mean.
Most humor in most situations is fine as long as it's intended and presented to be light-hearted. Granted there are some jokes that are just in poor taste but when it comes to stereotyping, making fun of those stereotypes by using them absurdly and the like, and similar ideas, there's not a ton of harm as long as it isn't constant and the people you're with don't have sense-of-humor-cancer.
From personal experience I've found there's nothing that can't be amusing when joking around with male friends, be they gay like me or something else, but I've had very mixed results with women on any side of that rainbow spectrum. It's probably just my school (with a large female population tilt and large background of hippies, bleeding hearts and the like) but I've learned to pretty much avoid making any stereotype-based humor if the audience is less than 75% male.
Most humor in most situations is fine as long as it's intended and presented to be light-hearted. Granted there are some jokes that are just in poor taste but when it comes to stereotyping, making fun of those stereotypes by using them absurdly and the like, and similar ideas, there's not a ton of harm as long as it isn't constant and the people you're with don't have sense-of-humor-cancer.
From personal experience I've found there's nothing that can't be amusing when joking around with male friends, be they gay like me or something else, but I've had very mixed results with women on any side of that rainbow spectrum. It's probably just my school (with a large female population tilt and large background of hippies, bleeding hearts and the like) but I've learned to pretty much avoid making any stereotype-based humor if the audience is less than 75% male.