Poll: Is it wrong to buy a game for the achievements?

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SonicWaffle

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kawaiiamethist said:
LO, ah, my signature game. I think I've played it five times now. I completed all the side quests the first time around, so after that it was all about the awesome story. ^_^ If you can, get that game again and finish it goddamit! >.<

The Backyard was very cool and reminded me of something very similiar from the Shadow Hearts franchise - good old Nautilus. Tolten was pretty weak, I only used him when I had to. He was hilariously lame during the cut scenes; funny how manly and brave Jansen suddenly appeared when Tolten joined the party.
I'm planning on renting it eventually just to finish up. I'd quite like to see how the story ends, and find the rest of A Thousand Years Of Dreams. I really liked those sequences, thought they were really well implemented. No idea where I got to with the side quests other than the Backyard Battle - what else was there? I seem to remember something about royal pillars, and killing one of every monster, but its a little hazy. Oh, and giving things to the squeaky animals in pots, but that seemed more of a bonus exchange that a minigame.

Tolten really, really sucked. While he was a whiny ***** in the cutscenes, he wasn't the worst. That honour definately goes to Cooke, the annoying little brat. At least Mack wasn't so bad, he generally kept his mouth shut, but his sister got right on my tits. Pretty useless in battle too, who needs a healing mage when everyone else can cast healing spells and you get so many potions that you almost never use? Then again, once you'd given the Immortals enough slot seeds (not that it was difficult at the rate you picked them up, especially with the items to give you +5 slots on top) you don't really need any of the mortal cast. I generally took Sed along because A) he could melee attack really well from the back row and B) pirates are cool.
 

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Congratulations. Microsoft now owns your mind and soul. When you die, you will not go to heaven or hell, but to a microsoft themed hell universe where master chief will tea bag your face for the rest of etirnity.
 

razerdoh

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personally its my goal to get all non needing to play online achivements on all my 360 games... :p and in WoW i am a achievments whore :p
 

Samurai Goomba

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Achievements are lame.

I would rather play the game, and forget anyone who counts a gamerscore for/against somebody. It's a measure of persistence/cheating, and little else.
 

SonicKoala

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SonicWaffle said:
SonicKoala said:
this was the case when I bought Godfather II - I admit, I bought it for the trophies, but I ended up having SO MUCH FUN with it.
Um...no...you...uh...what? Sorry, I'm a little confused. You had fun with Godfather II? That game has seared away a little part of my soul. The fact that I paid the full launch-day price for that one makes me weep bitter tears.

In fairness to it, it was a decent concept executed very poorly, and probably the main reason I hated it so much (other than it taking about 20 minutes to complete) was that I kept comparing it to the original Godfather. It just didn't measure up, they took a wonderful mafia sandbox game and turned it into a mishmash of half-baked strategy and badly done third-person action.

Sorry about that, had to rant a little. Godfather II is a pet hate of mine because I was looking forward to it so much, and it was a slap in the face to get such a short, half-finished product :(
Perhaps it's fortunate that I didn't play the first Godfather then lol. I had nothing to compare it to, and I admit that the game was FAR from perfect, and perhaps my capitalization of "so much fun" was a bit of an exaggeration, but yes, I did enjoy that game. I only payed 20 dollars for it, and I literally had zero expectation, so anything the game did well came as a pleasant surprise.

Honestly, my biggest problem with the game is how it's tries so hard to stay loyal to the movie, and when it tries to re-create some of the more dramatic scenes of Godfather II, it just falls flat on its face (most notably Fredo's "Well it's not what I wanted" scene.... I cringed when that came up in the game).
 

oppp7

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I think that it's ok to be an achievement whore. There's nothing wrong with achieveing something in a video game.
 

TZer0

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Yes, it gives an incentive to the developers to just churn out shovelware with achievements.
 

kawaiiamethist

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SonicWaffle said:
kawaiiamethist said:
LO, ah, my signature game. I think I've played it five times now. I completed all the side quests the first time around, so after that it was all about the awesome story. ^_^ If you can, get that game again and finish it goddamit! >.<

The Backyard was very cool and reminded me of something very similiar from the Shadow Hearts franchise - good old Nautilus. Tolten was pretty weak, I only used him when I had to. He was hilariously lame during the cut scenes; funny how manly and brave Jansen suddenly appeared when Tolten joined the party.
I'm planning on renting it eventually just to finish up. I'd quite like to see how the story ends, and find the rest of A Thousand Years Of Dreams. I really liked those sequences, thought they were really well implemented. No idea where I got to with the side quests other than the Backyard Battle - what else was there? I seem to remember something about royal pillars, and killing one of every monster, but its a little hazy. Oh, and giving things to the squeaky animals in pots, but that seemed more of a bonus exchange that a minigame.

Tolten really, really sucked. While he was a whiny ***** in the cutscenes, he wasn't the worst. That honour definately goes to Cooke, the annoying little brat. At least Mack wasn't so bad, he generally kept his mouth shut, but his sister got right on my tits. Pretty useless in battle too, who needs a healing mage when everyone else can cast healing spells and you get so many potions that you almost never use? Then again, once you'd given the Immortals enough slot seeds (not that it was difficult at the rate you picked them up, especially with the items to give you +5 slots on top) you don't really need any of the mortal cast. I generally took Sed along because A) he could melee attack really well from the back row and B) pirates are cool.
Here's a list I found of side quests: http://wikicheats.gametrailers.com/index.php/Lost_Odyssey_(XB360)/Sidequests

Yeah, Cooke was a pain (I didn't so much dislike the character, more the exaggeration of her va), especially with my being from the Rug Rats generation. She did have her uses, though. Early on her magical speed was damn handy when levelling up at the Numara Atoll (did you do that cheat?). All the mortals wore out their uses when the immortals learnt all their skills. Like you I found Sed very handy, though for me it was all about his double exp and sp.
 

wooty

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£40 is a little rich to pay just to hear that weird little "pop" sound
 

polygon

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Is it wrong to buy a game for the graphics?
Is it wrong to buy a game because you like the characters?
Is it wrong to buy a game because you heard it was hard and want to prove you can beat it?
 

SweetNess_666

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this is actually a very good question. Ive just hit over 15000 gamerscore....hoorarrr milestone and i"ve noticed ive been playing some games just to boost my score but i guess like a few people have said if you enjoy what your doing as in playing these games then so what :) each to there own :)
 

Mikri Shogun

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Ururu117 said:
imahobbit4062 said:
Ururu117 said:
Who BUYS games these days?
You are so cool, I want to be just like you when I grow up. Can you teach me to be as cool as you!?
OT: Is it wrong? No, Is it moronic? Yes. Its better to rent for your GS. A buddy of mine rented Terminator Salvation for the easy platinum.
Well first, you'll need to buy a fedora. A top hat is acceptable, if you also wear a monocle.
I think is way to much to spend a big amount of money for a game that just show up in the market,without extra consideration!! I always ex-change titles with my friends or buy used games (in excellent shape and guarantee from the store,and also when u bring your games you have a discount in a brand new or take a used one for free ),I recently bought far cry 2(boxset) and oblivion,both special edition,unimaginably cheap.In addition,renting a title helps to prevent a bad buy! :)
 

irishstormtrooper

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Get games you want, and then go for achievements. Don't waste your money on a game you already have played and beaten just to get achievements.
 

SonicWaffle

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Kamaitachi said:
What the f**k happened to playing games because they looked interesting?
Nothing. I swear, half the people commenting in this thread didn't even read the original post :p

kawaiiamethist said:
Yeah, Cooke was a pain (I didn't so much dislike the character, more the exaggeration of her va), especially with my being from the Rug Rats generation. She did have her uses, though. Early on her magical speed was damn handy when levelling up at the Numara Atoll (did you do that cheat?). All the mortals wore out their uses when the immortals learnt all their skills. Like you I found Sed very handy, though for me it was all about his double exp and sp.
No, I didn't know about any levelling cheats. Then again, I didn't need to - usually if I couldn't beat a boss I'd go to a nearby forest/temple/spooky location, level up twice, and go back to beat the shit out of them. The most glaringly obvious example is when you first meet Mack & Cooke, and those soldiers come to hassle you. I must have died ten times before I went away, levelled up, and then trounced them in 30 seconds.

Sed's weapons had buff/shield breaking abilities IIRC, he could ignore the front row defence and do full damage to the guy at the back. Useful for boss fights where the cannon fodder keeps regenerating to protect the Big Bad. The double XP/SP skills were extremely helpful for the first ten minutes, but after a few skill-linked fights you could pass it over to one of your Immortals (I did it with Seth first, the others were loaded up with spells or in Kaim's case special physical attacks) and Sed was no longer necessary for it. I think he had double gold or whatever the currency was, but by the point in the game you meet him money is a non-issue. I'd switch him out for Jansen sometimes, but more often Mack because once you set him up with some attacking spells the kid could kick ass. His particular brand of magic was a good all-rounder too, dealing decent damage to non physical enemies.

SonicKoala said:
Perhaps it's fortunate that I didn't play the first Godfather then lol. I had nothing to compare it to, and I admit that the game was FAR from perfect, and perhaps my capitalization of "so much fun" was a bit of an exaggeration, but yes, I did enjoy that game. I only payed 20 dollars for it, and I literally had zero expectation, so anything the game did well came as a pleasant surprise.
If you get the chance to, I'd play the first one. The story meshes with the gameplay far better, and the main character is more likeable. What dissapoints me most about the second game is how good it could have been. If they'd taken the same gameplay/level up/weapon upgrade mechanics from the first game, improved them a little, and then gone to work on the strategy elements the game could have been great.

The Don's View, with a bit of work, could have been a viable game mechanic rather than a glorified map. Did you ever send anyone to bomb a business or attempt to take one over? I tried it a few times, and they either failed or died. The only use I had for it was sending guys to attacked locations to defend it. In a perfect world, the map would have used some decent strategy elements beyond telling you what was being attacked - you could have controlled your forces, defended key areas, etc while still going out and playing the game yourself.
 

Mikri Shogun

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I think,that u can have fun and at the same time hit big gamescore!! I,also,like to open the achievements in every game,it's an extra objective...
 

kawaiiamethist

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No, I didn't know about any levelling cheats. Then again, I didn't need to - usually if I couldn't beat a boss I'd go to a nearby forest/temple/spooky location, level up twice, and go back to beat the shit out of them. The most glaringly obvious example is when you first meet Mack & Cooke, and those soldiers come to hassle you. I must have died ten times before I went away, levelled up, and then trounced them in 30 seconds.

Sed's weapons had buff/shield breaking abilities IIRC, he could ignore the front row defence and do full damage to the guy at the back. Useful for boss fights where the cannon fodder keeps regenerating to protect the Big Bad. The double XP/SP skills were extremely helpful for the first ten minutes, but after a few skill-linked fights you could pass it over to one of your Immortals (I did it with Seth first, the others were loaded up with spells or in Kaim's case special physical attacks) and Sed was no longer necessary for it. I think he had double gold or whatever the currency was, but by the point in the game you meet him money is a non-issue. I'd switch him out for Jansen sometimes, but more often Mack because once you set him up with some attacking spells the kid could kick ass. His particular brand of magic was a good all-rounder too, dealing decent damage to non physical enemies.
The cheat can be taken advantage of when you get Ming. Score the gamble spell from the Kelolon statue minigame in Tosca, make sure at least one person can turn-tail and you're set. Oh, and more than one person with spirit magic is also great.

There, you fight silver kelolons. But it takes some patience, because those fuckers love to run away. They're speedy, so you need two people doing gamble and two people supporting them with casting support. You won't always get the number you need, but it does work a lot of the time. The fifth person should also cast gamble incase one kelolon is still around.

You need turn tail to avoid the hellshakers, the only other creature on the island. This method will net you shit loads of sp and xp. By the time you're done they'll all be up to level 49 and have most of their skills. Cheap yes, but saves hours of level grinding later on.
 

Eclectic Dreck

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I cannot begrudge your decision to purchase a game for achievements. I would question the merit of such a purchase, but it is not my place to dictate how you spend your money.
 

Et3rnalLegend64

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Not wrong, but would you really pay for a game just to get the achievements? You're not buying it because you enjoy it. You're just buying it to bolster some number.
Your poll really should have another option. Those of us who say "no" don't have to be achievement hunters.