Poll: Is Kickball too Dangerous?

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TheKruzdawg

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You could get hurt doing anything so why don't we ban every activity ever invented? Unless under VERY SPECIFIC circumstances, playground games like this rarely result in physical injury that would be anywhere near life threatening or even amounting to something like a broken limb.

I'd say Red Rover would be the most dangerous of the bunch, it'd be pretty easy to get clotheslined doing that. But really, walk it off. I survived it. Why can't kids today?
 

spectrenihlus

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Dags90 said:
spectrenihlus said:
And there is
"[Geiser] also wonders about labor regulations that prevent some teens from running dishwashers or lawn mowers, part of the routine in some sleep-away camps.


Gieser fears the spontaneity and self-reliance that comes with wilderness adventures like canoe trips could someday be watered down by regulations."

I'm all for safety but not if it neuters the experience. Sometimes the danger is the whole point.
I think those, as stated, have more to do with child labor laws. So it has nothing to do with safety. It also only says "some", which probably means it applies only to those who can't legally work in NY. The minimum age of labor in NY is 14. So I guess he means "thirteen year olds" by "some teenagers".
Still there is no reason a 13 year old could not do KP duty or mow lawns at these camps.Child labor laws where instituted to get kids to go to school instead of laboring in a dead end job which could kill them. Although I agree with the tenants of child labor laws it really should be enforced on a case by case basis and summer camp where a group of kids do KP duty for 1 day of a week should be exempt.
 

Smooth Operator

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Well there is always a couple of those idiots that don't understand it's a game and will just try to hurt people, so weed out the neanderthals and it's all good, even chess isn't safe with the wrong kind of player.
 

BJK55123

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An America without kickball and dodgeball for children is a hell I cannot abide. Hell, let's take away juice boxes and crazy straws while we're at it; kid could poke their eye out.
 

McNoobin

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The only time I got hurt in kick ball was in 3rd grade when I was playing and this girl tripped me while I was running around the bases and I fell and skid across the hard cement and got cut up all along the right side of my leg, arm and face. I was bleeding like crazy. But that wasn't BECAUSE kickball. It was BECAUSE of that evil girl D: I don't think kick ball is dangerous.

When I was five waiting for the bus, I played red rover with some of my older brothers friends and when I got called over I ran into them, hit my mouth and started bleeding. But that was because their arm height was my face height lol. I still don't think red rover is "dangerous" though.

Freeze tag... um I don't know how that can be dangerous unless to unfreeze your teammate you do a triple back flip jump kick to the face to free them.

Wiffle ball, no clue as well. I've never heard a story about a kid who was hospital struck because of a wiffle ball game. Not dangerous unless youz a pussy.
 

Keith Reedy

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Arizona Kyle said:
HankMan said:
Utter bullocks. The only pain dodge-ball ever eadaused me was the pain of losing. I was pretty good when I first started, but then I started to over-think and became shit.
What about when some meathead hurls a ball at your head... Then you got face pain XD lots of face pain and laughter from other children thats always nice XD
You shoulda moved, oh and usually head hits are illegal and the other kid would be put
 

Snotnarok

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We weren't even allowed to play tag when I was in elementary school, dodgeball was 100% unacceptable and you'd get in trouble for even saying it, however kickball was fine.

What do I think? Kickball is harmless.
 

Tiger Sora

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People need to stfu, you played these as a kid, you may have gotten hurt, kids will get hurt. It's how they toughen up. The only real way to protect children is to pretty much kill them. Which sorta defeats the purpose.
 

reddfawks

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I guess the mods will be on me for this.

I know I may wind up with a low content post, but here goes...

"Wut?"
 

dystopiaINC

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i remember my primary school days, i attended a catholic school that was pretty lax about what we played because well lets face it we were A) small classes of 50 kids per grade and only 2 grades out on one yard at a time, and B) really good kids and in all 8 years i went there their wasn't a single fight or instance of threats or bullying. so they let us do what we wanted and conducted ourselves pretty well. we only ever had ONE injury and it was my 7th grade class playing red rover. a kid got cloths-lined, hit his head and got a concussion. but we were back to playing it the next day just fine.

the real kicker? we played American foot ball full tackle with no pads all the damn time if we could get some grass, if we were at a park as a class with free time? tackle football. heel we even played it on our DC trip in 8th grade. we played full tackle in a patch of grass next to the parking lot with teacher watching us. yeah we had it easy and did wee eve get hurt? naw i got hurt more in the class room with bored kids doing stupid stuff than ever playing a recess game.

(i'm not kidding about that last bit, i still have graphite in my thigh because a friend of mine wanted to see how sharp his new pencil sharpener could get them. he stabbed me and the tip broke off in my leg. you can see the dark mark still 7 years later.)
 

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This is just evidence of a problem as old as time. Some people are great. Most people are alright. Some people are shit.

It's a bell curve in proportions, but in actual "weight" the upper end of the dickishness curve dominates.

What I mean is this:

Life is a pool party. Some people bring drinks and snacks for everyone to share, most people hang out and have a good time and some retards do whatever they like and take a shit on the diving board.

Out of all these people, the one person who fucks things up for everyone is the most memorable.

About the only way around this is to have someone equally dickish working against the dickish people. Think Boondock Saints. People doing bad things to worse people.

I dunno...

I'm only in my twenties, but I swear I deserve to use the "back in my day" argument.

When I was a kid I was at all times bruised, grazed, bloodied or in some way dirty. And that was the way I motherfucking liked it.

I want to know where this "KIDS ARE GLASS FIGURINES" ideology came from because its downright unfathomable to me.
Hear! Hear! Well said, when I was a kid one of our favourite games was to go into the woods and get sticks to sword-fight with and to throw at each other as javelins. It was fucking sweet, and of course it was dangerous, so's life.

Also gravel fights on the school playground :D
 

justnotcricket

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RIP Bullrush...although I hear it's on its way back...

I believe that these games are not too dangerous - or at least no more dangerous than anything else. You cannot and should not cotton-wrap your kids. That doesn't mean you should encourage them to be fundamentally reckless, but how are they going to develop physical coordination and survival skils these days anyway? =P
 

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This is fucking ridiculous, I hated kickball because I felt it was a lazy version of softball, and I only accepted softball because they wouldn't let us use real baseballs in school but I don't see it as particularly dangerous unless they're using a fucking bowling ball instead of the big red rubber ball.

I never understood the point of Red Rover and never looked forward to being forced to play it because it pretty much always ended with me feeling like one or both of my arms had been ripped from it's socket but if schools want to force it on their students more power to them.

If there had been a dodgeball class at my school I would've taken that at least one semester a year, I fucking loved dodgeball. If they banned it in my school district I would protest. When I was in middle school we played with these old volleyballs that were all hard from being from like the 70's. I saw the stoner kid in my class take one of those things to the face from the P.E. teacher and it knocked him on his ass because he wasn't paying attention.

This nanny state bullshit needs to stop before American society ends up being bigger pussies than we already are. Keep banning common playground games because someone might get either their feelings hurt or actually come to minor physical harm and we'll end up being invaded by some tiny country like Lichtenstein and we'll go down harder than the French did to the Nazis.
 

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Fuck to the no, isn't it just kicking a ball?
Your beloved American Football is far more dangerous but you wouldn't dare ban that?
*giggles* That is soooo true, they'll *never* EVER ban Amercian Football.
My kids, however (if I have boys), will grow up playing rugby, a real man's sport.

Back on topic, I grew up playing dodgeball and kickball on the school playground, and I'm no worse for wear, this is absolutely ridiculous... *sigh*
 

Gwarr

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The only "dangerous one" is red rover , and only when the opposing team has a overweight kid.
 

Therumancer

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Well the issue here is one of risk, 99.9% of the time there is no real danger involved in these games, and injuries will be relatively minor if they occur. The problem is that tiny portion of the time when a kid *IS* injured seriously, which of course opens the school to litigation, and if the school is receiving public funding in any capacity the state and town can be held accountable... through rising insurance premiums if nothing else (since if they have insurance to deal with this, the rates will rise once they have an incident).

It's a slipper slope issue, with no easy answer. The reflex is to point out that this is the result of the insanity of a legal system that allows people to sue for nearly anything ,people oftentimes forgetting how they would feel if their kid was seriously injured. There is also of course the connected issue of negligence and one of the big reasons why it's become possible to sue with enough of a chance of success in cases like this is that there have been plenty of cases over the years where physical education instructors HAVE been negligent, over the top, or were just not taking their job seriously which lead to the injuries. Removing liability from the equasion can also lead to a lot of problems.

One also has to understand that even when you don't get into punitive damages, simply having a school be considered liable for the injuries can be a big deal. I'm sure we all know people who suffer from injuries they sustained in school activities, especially later in life. When you get older some injury you seemed to shrug off playing football, falling down, or whatever else can come back with a vengeance or be the catalyst for various degenerative conditions. If some kid takes a bad spill playing kickball, and sprains their leg or something, and there are records of this where it's acknowleged to happen, this old sports injury could see the school having to pay out a lot of medical fees 20 years down the road if it can be tied to why some middle aged guy starts to have problems walking. You might laugh but cases like this have been won, and there is a lot of legitmacy to the central complaint, what's more if YOUR the one who is in pain, your going to want treatment and do whatever you have to in order to get it, and if that means going after your old school because you can't otherwise afford and injury like that, well that's what your going to do.

Don't misunderstand what I'm saying though, I think the situation is ridiculous, but I do understand it. Personally I think these schools and programs need to suck it up. Especially when dealing with private programs simply run through schools the things are cash farms. It basically amounts to a bunch of people looking to make some extra money teaching a few extra gym classes as a fancy form of day care, and charging crazy amounts of money for it at times.

The kind of thing they seem to be talking about is say where a Gym teacher gets permission to use a blacktop or school gym after hours (perhaps in exchange for some kind of write off the school gets for donating it or whatever), and then accepts money from parents to keep their kids busy for a couple of extra hours a day. They might charge like $200 per kid a month for this, or even more, and there generally isn't any oversight on the "program" because it's not actually being run by the school, and the nurses that work for the school aren't on contract to service this (hence the point about the medical liscences and so on), assuming this isn't all at the town green or a park, or some public blacktop or whatever.

The basic logic can apply to a lot of differant things though, and it's ridiculous, but it is a touchy subject, and not one you can actually take a side on easily if you really think about what's involved.
 

Kevlar Eater

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At this rate, our kids may as well be caged if people (particularly politicians) wish to shield their child(ren) from all things bad. I wouldn't be surprised if 16-year-olds developed osteoporosis as well as severely atrophied muscles because their muscles aren't being used.
 

AgDr_ODST

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hahahhahhahhahhha great joke....except for the fact they're April fools joke is 19 days late......
what! you mean this isn't a joke.........
 

Haydyn

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Ban American football and Nascar. Then you can take a giant shit on my childhood. This is unnatural selection at it's best.