Petite is literally French for 'small'.DrgoFx said:
My fiancee has hips, breasts, all the correct proportions of a fully grown woman.
Only smaller.
She's pocket sized for my convenience.
Poll: Is liking petite girls the same as pedophilia?
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My fiancee has hips, breasts, all the correct proportions of a fully grown woman.
Only smaller.
She's pocket sized for my convenience.
Umm yes, that is correct. A twenty-something could look 15 by being petite but could also not look 15 (but older) and still be petite.Daystar Clarion said:
My grandmother is petite. No, she definitely doesn't look younger. My ex-flatmate again (the girl) - she actually shopped in the kids section from time to time. Cheap clothes and they were just her size. No, she didn't look less than 18. Maybe unless you were really drunk or lost your contacts/glasses, or something, but at that point I doubt you'd be making rash judgements based on silhouettes.
Petite means small, or short. Not all petite people look like 13 year olds. I'm petite (5ft) and look older than I actually am.
Petite just means pants found in most stores are way to long...
OT: No, being small is not the same as being to young, liking short people is not the same as liking kids.
Petite just means pants found in most stores are way to long...
OT: No, being small is not the same as being to young, liking short people is not the same as liking kids.
Alright then what about how my class defined it? And for the record, for our odd debates, we define something in our own words. Usually we have a big mess of definitions and just stick with the majority. The definition of "Petite = Small" was in the minority, so I figured most people thought the same. My bad for assuming.Daystar Clarion said:
PROFESSIONAL INSIGHT TIME!
I'm actually going for a psychology degree right now and my focus is children, so I can actually answer this with a bit of background knowledge.
Small women and young girls are very different. There are several changes that take place revolving around puberty aside from the obvious ones, and sometimes it's even intangible. You can definitely see this if you browse porn sites a lot, because your mind is centered on the idea of finding an ideal mate. If you aren't attracted to children, the second your horny eyes find one, all your wires get crossed and you just don't know what to do with yourself. If you are attracted... Well you probably had the opposite reaction.
You see, puberty is much more than just growing boobs and getting taller. One study we actually did in class was astonishing. Four anonymous girls in different parts of their menstrual cycle were asked to wear the same t-shirt to bed three nights in a row, then bring it to class in a plastic bag (and of course secretly). The men in the class then smelled each bag and rated which one we were attracted to most. 90% went with the one that was ovulating. So a woman who is small and built like a child is distinctly different from an actual child.
This being said, some men who are attracted to children will sometimes look for a smaller mate and then fantasize, but it would never be the same. Of course, I do mean some men. The overwhelming majority of men with small girls either just like small girls or are indifferent to their partner's size.
This is where legislation gets tricky for statutory rape. 16-year-olds have extreme potential to be incredibly hot. That's when a girl, biologically, should be having a child. But mentally, she's likely not mentally/emotionally ready to consent to sexual contact (especially with an adult). However, if you're convicted of statutory rape of a perfectly mature 16-year-old, you are basically labeled a child molester for life. It's a brutal system designed to protect children, but it severely hurts the rights of men. It's why some states and many countries actually have an age of consent of 16 or so. I think Canada's was freaking 12 (way too low) until rather recently.
But when it comes to protecting children, I'd rather err on the side of caution.
Huh... I think I may have thought I was writing an assignment for class in there at some point...
tl;dr, Nope.
I'm actually going for a psychology degree right now and my focus is children, so I can actually answer this with a bit of background knowledge.
Small women and young girls are very different. There are several changes that take place revolving around puberty aside from the obvious ones, and sometimes it's even intangible. You can definitely see this if you browse porn sites a lot, because your mind is centered on the idea of finding an ideal mate. If you aren't attracted to children, the second your horny eyes find one, all your wires get crossed and you just don't know what to do with yourself. If you are attracted... Well you probably had the opposite reaction.
You see, puberty is much more than just growing boobs and getting taller. One study we actually did in class was astonishing. Four anonymous girls in different parts of their menstrual cycle were asked to wear the same t-shirt to bed three nights in a row, then bring it to class in a plastic bag (and of course secretly). The men in the class then smelled each bag and rated which one we were attracted to most. 90% went with the one that was ovulating. So a woman who is small and built like a child is distinctly different from an actual child.
This being said, some men who are attracted to children will sometimes look for a smaller mate and then fantasize, but it would never be the same. Of course, I do mean some men. The overwhelming majority of men with small girls either just like small girls or are indifferent to their partner's size.
This is where legislation gets tricky for statutory rape. 16-year-olds have extreme potential to be incredibly hot. That's when a girl, biologically, should be having a child. But mentally, she's likely not mentally/emotionally ready to consent to sexual contact (especially with an adult). However, if you're convicted of statutory rape of a perfectly mature 16-year-old, you are basically labeled a child molester for life. It's a brutal system designed to protect children, but it severely hurts the rights of men. It's why some states and many countries actually have an age of consent of 16 or so. I think Canada's was freaking 12 (way too low) until rather recently.
But when it comes to protecting children, I'd rather err on the side of caution.
Huh... I think I may have thought I was writing an assignment for class in there at some point...
tl;dr, Nope.
Well we'll go with this assumption.DrgoFx said:
All women who look like children are small but not all small women look like children.
Aye, but if you think Peter Dinklage looks like an underage girl, you've got bigger problems to worry about.Kahunaburger said:
In the strictest definition of the term, no.
Pedophilia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia] is the attraction to prepubescent children (pre-teens), and usually includes a minimum five year age difference. This is the main issue and understanding of it.
Ephebophilia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia] is the (preferrential) attraction to teens after they've gone through puberty, specifically later-adolescence. This case is generally not considered a major issue, and can be argued to actually be somewhat reasonable (if not normal).
Legally speaking however, there may not be much difference; if someone is below the age of consent and the other is not, there's a problem. "Romeo & Juliet" laws do give this some lee-way (usually by a matter of reasonable age differnce). Still, they do get treated differently in the legal setting. Pedophiles are labelled as potential predators & repeat offenders, and are usually subject to monitoring long after they've done their time; there's usually a good reason for this too. Ephobpilia cases tend to fall under either "jail bait" or "abuse of power", there's probably plenty of "victimless crime"-type situations under this label too. Being attracted to a teen is fine (and that could be called the general opinion), but acting on it (especially when in position of power & authority, such as being a teacher) is where the trouble starts; the teen in question might even give full consent, but it's illegal for a reason (abuse of power is probably the main thing).
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Petite, slender, and/or less "gifted" women can bear a physical resemblance to your average teen and seem much younger than they actually are. How about considering the other side of the debate? Those ladies probably don't want to be ostracized/neglected solely because they appear "too young", and I haven't heard of any cases where that's actually happened. That and we can probably safely assume that particularly extreme cases, where the woman is an adult but has the body of a pre-teen, is almost always from the realm of fantasy.
Accounting for the full range of differences in the female anatomy, and twice as much for individual tastes... well, there should be no problem. Legality not being an issue and consent being given, people should be able to act accordingly. Not that it can't prevent strange situations and the pushing of social norms, but you're never going to be able to put a stop to some people just be plain wierd.
In other words, a relationship between a 100+ year old man and a petite 18-20 year old woman (and to up the ante, looks younger than that) can still be loving & intimate. There's plenty of reason to be suspect of the situation; but while improbable, it is still possible. Very wierd and probably requiring heavy assistance from the magic blue(?) pill, but possible.
Just try not to think about it too much.... oh damn. No! Why! Can't... avert... mind's... eye...
Pass the brain bleach! [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrainBleach]
Pedophilia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia] is the attraction to prepubescent children (pre-teens), and usually includes a minimum five year age difference. This is the main issue and understanding of it.
Ephebophilia [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia] is the (preferrential) attraction to teens after they've gone through puberty, specifically later-adolescence. This case is generally not considered a major issue, and can be argued to actually be somewhat reasonable (if not normal).
Legally speaking however, there may not be much difference; if someone is below the age of consent and the other is not, there's a problem. "Romeo & Juliet" laws do give this some lee-way (usually by a matter of reasonable age differnce). Still, they do get treated differently in the legal setting. Pedophiles are labelled as potential predators & repeat offenders, and are usually subject to monitoring long after they've done their time; there's usually a good reason for this too. Ephobpilia cases tend to fall under either "jail bait" or "abuse of power", there's probably plenty of "victimless crime"-type situations under this label too. Being attracted to a teen is fine (and that could be called the general opinion), but acting on it (especially when in position of power & authority, such as being a teacher) is where the trouble starts; the teen in question might even give full consent, but it's illegal for a reason (abuse of power is probably the main thing).
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Petite, slender, and/or less "gifted" women can bear a physical resemblance to your average teen and seem much younger than they actually are. How about considering the other side of the debate? Those ladies probably don't want to be ostracized/neglected solely because they appear "too young", and I haven't heard of any cases where that's actually happened. That and we can probably safely assume that particularly extreme cases, where the woman is an adult but has the body of a pre-teen, is almost always from the realm of fantasy.
Accounting for the full range of differences in the female anatomy, and twice as much for individual tastes... well, there should be no problem. Legality not being an issue and consent being given, people should be able to act accordingly. Not that it can't prevent strange situations and the pushing of social norms, but you're never going to be able to put a stop to some people just be plain wierd.
In other words, a relationship between a 100+ year old man and a petite 18-20 year old woman (and to up the ante, looks younger than that) can still be loving & intimate. There's plenty of reason to be suspect of the situation; but while improbable, it is still possible. Very wierd and probably requiring heavy assistance from the magic blue(?) pill, but possible.
Just try not to think about it too much.... oh damn. No! Why! Can't... avert... mind's... eye...
Pass the brain bleach! [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BrainBleach]
Man, you make a lot of polls.
(I'm supprised the forum hasn't eaten any yet... or has it?)
OT: No, it isn't.
Is having sex with a girl who is 18,19 pedophillia? Last time I checked no.
I mean, so long as they don't look like they are like, you know, 7...
(I'm supprised the forum hasn't eaten any yet... or has it?)
OT: No, it isn't.
Is having sex with a girl who is 18,19 pedophillia? Last time I checked no.
I mean, so long as they don't look like they are like, you know, 7...
Fuck no.
Petite girls who are old enough look nothing like children. My girlfriend is quite petite but i'm not attracted to children at all.
Petite girls who are old enough look nothing like children. My girlfriend is quite petite but i'm not attracted to children at all.
After the OP explained what he meant properly that is what I thought, it sounds like trying to answer a virtually theoretical question. How in the hell are you going to get an adult (we'll say 18+ here) woman that looks like a pre pubescent girl unless they have some sort of serious developmental abnormality? You do get girls/women that are short, have small breasts and generally look quite young, maybe to the extent of looking like they are under the age of consent (we'll say under 16 here) if they are still 18-19 ish, but there are too many changes to facial structure and overall body shape to look like a child.The Abhorrent said:
Under that particular logic, one could actually argue that the argument demolishes itself by its own premise. Pedophilia is defined as an attraction to children, to phrase it broadly. More specifically, it refers to an attraction to prepubescent children, typically less than 13 years of age. By specifically invoking the age of 15 in the premise, the argument by nature posits that the girl - while appearing young - is still easy to distinguish from a true child. Ergo, claims of pedophilia would rely almost exclusively on the legal age of consent as opposed to physical development, robbing the argument of its teeth[footnote]Further complicating the issue is the fact that there is no international standard age of consent, some nations even define it by when puberty starts[/footnote], especially considering that despite appearances the girl in question is over the age of consent. In the end, the argument that it should be considered pedophilia would seem to end up being more about a viewer's presumptions than anything they can actually argue.DrgoFx said:
No, a petite girl is not a child. Therefore you are not sexually attracted to children so you are not a pedophile. The case that you like smaller woman so you like children doesn't hold water because a smaller woman's physique does not equal a child's physique. Your body matures as you age, it doesn't just scale upward perfectly proportionally from birth.
Well I sure hope not because my girl friend is all of 4 foot 11 and the cutest thing i've ever known :3.
I don't think its the same, as little girls look nothing like fully developed women, no matter how petite they are.
I don't think its the same, as little girls look nothing like fully developed women, no matter how petite they are.
I don't mean that makes you somehow evil, I'm one of those people who thinks that paedophilia is fine as long as you don't act on it, what I mean is that If you are experiencing those feelings for those reasons you should probably see a psychiatrist or do something.Palademon said:
this. I'm pretty sure the whole point of pedophilia is an attraction to a child's innocence, and the harm done to them in the act of sex; reenacting the harm someone else caused you.
So i'm pretty sure a pedophile would not be attracted by someone looking like a child, but rather their innocence.
(I've read a lot about obscure things :S, NOT a pedophile)