Poll: Is online anonymity worth it?

Recommended Videos

Big.Bad.Blowback

New member
Mar 22, 2012
14
0
0
With the invention of the internet people have the ability to do things almost completely anonymously. I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. Well I know that it can be for the good but it can also be used for evil. The real question is the good that people can accomplish worth the evil that is there? When I refer to Online Anonymity and Anonymous I am referring to anyone using the internet to be anonymous, not just the hacktivism group.

For the good people have been able to use Online Anonymity to be able to organize revolutions, important protests and release information about the crimes and cover-ups of both governments and corporations. Without the ability to communicate with each other over the internet the protesters and Rebels in the Arab Spring would have never been able to organize themselves effectively enough to take down corrupt governments. WikiLeaks allows people to blow the whistle on Companies shady business practices and reveal information about corrupt government. They were also able to help organize protests in the first world against negative online censorship. In my opinion though the most important things ever accomplished by the Anonymous are events like Operation Darknet (The take down of 40 child porn sites and revealing information on over 1500 criminals.) and Operation Blitzkrieg (The outing of many Neo-Nazis.).

On the flip side of the issue there are also all of the negative things anonymity allows. There are the minor things like people being very disrespectful to others. One major example of this is the Habbo Raids. Habbo hotel is/was a site for children and teens to converse in a safe and moderated environment. Anonymous groups decided that it would be a good idea to disrupt this with profanity, organized racism and other troll like behavior. People also often do other things that are just terrible behavior such as uploading pornography to video sharing sites under the name of children's musicians and shows.

The above example may have been just something rude or 'for fun' but there is also a much more serious side. Anonymity is used to do illegal things with no/very little risk of punishment. This includes things like fraud and drug trafficking and bomb making. They allow people to anonymously acquire illegal weapons. The worst of it though is the targets against young people. Some use this anonymity to bully and abuse teens, often to the point where they try to kill themselves. Child pornography also runs rampant in the 'Deep Net'. It would take someone less then 30 minutes of reading this post to be able to access Tor networks and find pornography involving children or animals. Even COPINE 6-10 images can be found without fear or even any effort, sometimes they are mixed in with normal content just for the hell of it.

So Escapists do you think that it is good that we can do just about anything online without fear of the law or even the judgement of our peers? Would the internet be a better place if governments mad networks like TOR completely illegal? Is right to privacy more important then the safety of children?
 

tippy2k2

Beloved Tyrant
Legacy
Mar 15, 2008
14,870
2,349
118
You are never anonymous online; never.

If what the person is doing is illegal, the cops have ways to track these people down. IF the person has the ability to hide who they are well enough that cops can't track it, having no anonymity online is not going to be what finally catches them.

With no anonymity, you are taking away all of the pros of being anonymous while gaining nothing against the negatives.
 

Nimcha

New member
Dec 6, 2010
2,383
0
0
In my opinion anything you put on the internet is your responsibility, no matter how anonymous you think you are.

That also means I think that if you or your kids are confronted with things on the internet you don't want to see, it's also your own fault.
 

Big.Bad.Blowback

New member
Mar 22, 2012
14
0
0
Networks like TOR make people very difficult to catch. Police operations are often unable to get them because of a lack of resources and laws to take the needed steps. The only way to crack down on things like Tor would be to try to keep it off the surface net and make the use of it a federal crime.

And I disagree with the assumption that anything a child sees online is because of the parents. They have no idea that the site that is always supposed to be kid safe and has a good mod staff is going to be flooded by people messaging swears and forming Swastikas or that the video of a Justin Bieber song on You Tube is actually hardcore pornography.
 

isometry

New member
Mar 17, 2010
708
0
0
Yes. I'd much rather people give their true opinions then to hide behind a socially acceptable facade. I believe in freedom of discussion and debate, and internet anonymity helps facilitate that. Trolls are irrelevant and have no power.
 

planet.tyler

New member
Mar 1, 2012
24
0
0
Speaking as a parent I feel that the responsibility to censor inappropriate content from not just the Internet but from all other forms of media falls squarely on my shoulders alone. The shroud of Internet anonymity may be used by certain elements of the global community for "evil" purposes but overall allows too much free information to passed on to think that giving it up would be a good thing. This is one of the last remaining places where people can pass free information on outside of corporate owned media interests. Internet anonymity must be protected for this reason alone, for if you take it away the evil that you see now be carried out by a sick minority will pale when compared with the evil world governments would start committing if they could track down would be dissendents, protesters, political opponents, etc based on what they posting online.
 

Solemn Marth

New member
Nov 6, 2010
49
0
0
you must be really really really good at hacking to be completely anonymous and even then your not completely anonymous you just masked your tracks well enough to not be found.
 

Chanel Tompkins

New member
Nov 8, 2011
186
0
0
There will always be some people who use any freedom they're given to be dipshits. That's no reason to not defend freedom.
 

evilneko

Fall in line!
Jun 16, 2011
2,218
49
53
Yes.

However there should be procedures in place for obtaining someone's identity, or at least general information, but only with due process.

I carefully guard my true identity online. I go to great lengths to make sure none of my handles can be reliably linked back to the real me. I know others don't care, don't value their privacy. Their loss. It'll come back to bite them in the ass later.
 

MrTub

New member
Mar 12, 2009
1,742
0
0
Yes I do think so, and so does some of our ISP.

An example:
Sweden was "forced" by EU to implement a law which forces companies to save isp info & phone traffic for at least 6 month and therefor the best isp(Imo, in sweden) is going to funnel all their customers through a "tunnel" which means that everyone will appear to have the same ip address which is great imo.
 

craftomega

New member
May 4, 2011
546
0
0
No i dont think humanity can deal with total anonymity. If you look at all forums and games; almost always 90% of the population is either complete trolls or complete morons (usually both). I think that people need to take resposibility for what they do even on the internet. And anonymity is not required for that.

PS: Porn sites dont count no one needs to know what I look at >.>
 

JoJo

and the Amazing Technicolour Dream Goat 🐐
Moderator
Legacy
Mar 31, 2010
7,170
143
68
Country
šŸ‡¬šŸ‡§
Gender
♂
Big.Bad.Blowback said:
I personally feel that if you would not say it if people knew it was you then you should not say it at all.
In a world where there are many regimes who will arrest, torture and execute people who refuse to toe the state party line, that's a rather silly statement. Not everyone is lucky enough as you and I to live in first world democracies who respect freedom of speech.
 

Vault101

I'm in your mind fuzz
Sep 26, 2010
18,863
15
43
I hardly say anything on facebook as I worry I'll come across as a dumbass, or my mum sees what I say

here I can derp around as much as I please (and talk extensivly about my action figures...and NO ONE CARES :p)

and I can also say things I wouldnt otherwise...you know "personal" stuff that might eb bothering me
 

MammothBlade

It's not that I LIKE you b-baka!
Oct 12, 2011
5,246
0
0
Anonymity is a double-edged sword. As you say, people have used it for good purposes as well as bad. I would like to say that all the sorts of good uses for anonymity could be protected under freedom of speech whilst all the negative uses such as piracy, cyber-bullying, etc, would be subject to punishment. Yet the powers that be cannot be trusted to engage in responsible internet monitoring. Powerful vested interests have a lot to lose from freedom of information and consciousness, and will stop at nothing to silence truth. Freedom of speech can no longer be taken for granted. Nor should it ever be seen that way. It is a very fragile thing, even in so-called "liberal democracies". Even if freeedom of speech is protected by law, it can be subverted by intimidation, blackmail, and all sorts of underhand tactics. Internet anonymity gives people a platform when they would otherwise be oppressed and persecuted for speaking out. There may be plenty of bullies, bigots, paedophiles, and pirates on the net, but they are not nearly as bad as the threat of removing peoples' anonymity. Of course the internet cannot be a lawless hideout for career criminals; but it must remain a safe haven for everyone who isn't. Authorities should require a warrant for the purpose of collecting specific data, in the same way that they should to search a house (pre-PATRIOT act, of course).

No snooping on people without a warrant. No collecting data on people without a genuine reason. Expressing a dissenting opinion is not a reason. Attending a protest is not a reason. Wanting basic privacy is certainly not a f**king reason. It seems as if this cannot be stated clearly enough.
 

DustyDrB

Made of ticky tacky
Jan 19, 2010
8,365
3
43
It's better than some of the alternatives [http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1].
 

Loner Jo Jo

New member
Jul 22, 2011
172
0
0
The way I see it, when you make something illegal, you don't get rid of it. You merely drive it underground.

Same goes for the internet. If you get rid of the anonymity that the internet provides, you aren't going to stop crime or even trolls/bullies/what-have-you. They are just going to work harder to get around the system. People who want to commit a crime will find a way. I do not believe that a futile effort to stop crime should invalidate anyone's access to the great side of the internet that anonymity has to offer.