Poll: Is the iphone really worth the price?

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mysecondlife

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isn't new Iphone coming out in a month or so? I say you should've researched what phone to get if you were to spend that amount of money.

my advice is to return it and hold out until Iphone5 comes out.. or better yet, get an android phone
 

Comieman

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Considering that I do not use phone for music and map and games and browsing, a cheap phone is all i need for texting and calling.

So no, Iphone is a waste of money
 

TheComfyChair

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No, when a decent netbook (AMD E-350 based, of course, none of that atom shite) and a nice phone can be had for the same amount of money, only a moron would get an iphone.

'But look! i can annoy you with apps and be a hipster!'
'has it got an app that generates friends?'
'No.'
'then good luck finding someone to talk to'
 

Ziadaine_v1legacy

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Apples overpriced as it is in Australia because there isnt that much of a competition for them here, so they can set their benchmark higher compaired to places like Japan and America.

Buying one on ebay alone saves you ~$200 and thats either unlocked or locked, or even go back to a 3GS on ebay, those are about $300-400, half of what you paid and (imo) a bit sturdier.

Mind you that JUST Apple products, there's better in Android, Windows etc
 

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Azaraxzealot said:
everyone who says "Yes" owns an iPhone, an iPad, an iMac, a MacBook, etc.

everyone who says "No" does not.

laying this out as a general rule

and I answered "No". I refuse to be part of such an expensive fad where i have to pay 350 dollars EVERY FUCKING FEW MONTHS just to have the most up to date model
True, I said yes and I have an iPhone and an iPod. I love my iPhone. I'm clueless about smartphones, and it's incredibly easy to use. (I tried to help someone find her contacts on her new android, and I think it was buried like three menus in? Atrocious design!) Hell, it's worth what I paid for road-trip usefulness alone-- the find-the-cheapest-gas app has paid for itself many times over, the free app that tells me what's at every upcoming exit is incredibly helpful (do we stop here, or is there a rest area that isn't 30 miles away?), my mom is in a nursing home with no internet, and I can quickly get her information on anything she wants to know while I'm sitting with her. Google maps has gotten me un-lost multiple times, and since I have trouble reading the print on maps these days (getting old!) the backlighting and easy enlarging on the google map is invaluable-- not to mention the dot tracker to let me know we've turned the wrong way. Love that I can back up my podcasts on it, too.

Would I pay $800 for it? Probably not. Was it worth the $100 I paid? Absolutely.
 

VladG

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Android devices out there like the Galaxy S II far surpass the iphone on every level (and the market now has more apps than appstore, so they don't even have that argument). Not to mention the Galaxy S II is 50% cheaper here than an iphone.
 

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I'm running an unlocked Samsung Galaxy S Android phone with programming utilities and a custom UI, and it only cost me the equivalent of 450 USD. In France, it's 150 USD with a contract commitment in France. It comes with up to 16GB of internal memory, that is the flash memory plus the internal SD card. And I said internal, because the phone has an external SD card slot that allows for up to 32GB in micro-SD cards since Android 2.2 aka Froyo.

The iPhone goes up to 16GB of flash memory for 300USD on contract, and at 650USD unlocked. It doesn't have any memory extension slots.

Now, for the app market. On iPhone, even to go grab a free app, you have to log into an Apple account, and even after that, they will ask you for a credit card. Developers are often discouraged because they need to pay a shitton of charges, licenses and sign a lot of papers from Apple, and even give them 30% of their revenue generated by app sales. Even after that, Apple is free to remove your app from the store, copy your idea/code, and put it back on the store as their own, without you being able to do anything about it.

The Android Market never asked me to sign up for any kind of accounts. Day one, I downloaded a bunch of free apps, and used my Google account to comment and rate them. Then, I downloaded more apps, and discovered how large the market is.
The competition on the market is incredible: thousands independent developers trying to gain the most ground on several fields, even if it means competing against the masters such as Mozilla or Opera in the market for mobile web browsers. Currently, the Dolphin Web Browser is arguably the best: regularly updated, and offers a wide-range of plugins from either the Dolphin devs themselves or third-party developers.
Such competition forces developers to deliver regular updates and high-quality programs to avoid losing their userbase to their competitors, which is all the better for customers.
There are three eBook readers on Android I know about so far: Aldiko, Google Books, and Amazon Kindle, which are all working together to deliver the best user experience.

Apple is just too restrictive and protective of their platform. Paying so much for the iPhone is just preposterous for what it delivers.

bluepilot said:
I have an iphone, I am not very good with technology so I like the iphone because it is easy to use. I think that the android is a much better buy though.

I love my iphone because messaging is so easy but apart from that it is nothing special. I think you are paying more for the convenience of being able to use the internet whenever you want more than anything else. But is some places and at certain times of the day the service can be so slow that it is not really worth.

I fell out of love with my iphone a bit because i dropped it down the toilet then had to shell out some cash for out-of-warrenty repairs.

But right now, I think I will go back to a more traditional phone when this contract is up. Smart phones are okay in all but sometimes it is nice just to have a more simple life.
Using the internet wherever and whenever you want is called 3G, and 4G. Android, Blackberry and Windows Phones do that, too.
And the convenience of being an easy-to-use phone is just what every single Apple product is about: easy-to-use, but for people who don't know what they're doing when there's a lot more to do (like programming, maintenance, updates, etc).
 

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monkey jesus said:
I have the choice of an iPhone or Android next month so thanks for this thread.

I currently have a Sony Ericson with a really good camera and I use my wife's iPod for music when I'm running.

I'm leaning towards something with a decent camera probably on Android, mostly based on what I'll use the phone for as opposed to what it's capable of. Also Android has higher geek-cred in the circles I run in and sadly that is a factor in my decision.
You'll be best off with the Sony Ericsson Arc then, it has Sony's Exmor sensor tech in there, making it one of the best smart phones for cameras at the minute. Not to mention the user experience has been reported to be really good, and it's stupidly thin.

Polarity27 said:
True, I said yes and I have an iPhone and an iPod. I love my iPhone. I'm clueless about smartphones, and it's incredibly easy to use. (I tried to help someone find her contacts on her new android, and I think it was buried like three menus in? Atrocious design!)
So you admit you know nothing about smart phones, and then call Android atrociously designed? Okay...

By the way, Android lets you get to your contacts from the home screen, one click, that's it. How did you miss it? Even the vast majority of the custom UI's like Touch Wiz, Moto Blur and Sense have a similar thing where the contacts button is locked to the home screen for ease of use.

Android isn't atrocious design, but I can confirm with you that it was, in fact, atrocious use.
 

GlitchZero

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The Market doesn't have more apps than the App Store.still at 250,000, App Store is around 315,000 last count.

Regardless, iPhone is marketed as must have. Companies flock to it. I've been using Android since the G1, still own 5 Android devices, and picked up an iPhone 4 a few months ago and there's plenty of apps that are not on Android that are on iPhone, and vice versa to a fairly minimal extent. The point is, it's always iOS first, Android second, and WP7 or BB if they've got nothing better to do.

Galaxy S II outright is a whopping 49.99 cheaper ($599.99 to $649.99) than an outright iPhone 4 16GB (matching the internal storage) and on contract it's actually $20 more expensive. (iPhone 4 on a 3 year term - $159.99, SGS II $179.99)

The flash player alone has come in handy REPEATEDLY on Android and is a never ending source of frustration from a long long time Apple user on the iPhone. (20+ years on Apple computers / Macs)

Even SkyFire is ridiculously lacking and Apples bullheadedness with Adobe is a huge piss off. Steve Jobs pissing contest with every other company ever is a personal vendetta that is hurting what the iPhone could be.

SGS II on paper surpasses the iPhone, but in actual usability, (owning both, I've done several side by sides) the iPhone is still smoother, the same apps still look better on the iPhone, and in some instances, it's faster. iOS 5 of course made a huge difference in Safari, as iOS 4 couldn't touch Chromium on the SGS II, again irrelevant.

Apple has always, ALWAYS been in the market of polish. And there has yet to be an Android device out that's nearly as polished or "just works" as well as the iPhone. Most people blindly support Android because although it is good, and a great OS, they've never used an iPhone for more than "checking out a friends" or base their opinions off the old iPhone 3G, 3GS, or old versions of iOS that weren't nearly as feature-rich and don't know any better. I would easily recommend (and do on a daily basis in my job) Android and iOS to different people, because there's not a blanket device. The SGS II might be good for one person and downright useless to another. Just like the iPhone might be good for someone looking for a simple smartphone, but so might WP7.

Of course, the iPhone has its faults too. The iTunes lockdown is annoying as fuck (even though I've used iTunes since it's release) I would still like other options. the Wi-Fi syncing and iCloud backup system in iOS 5 is relieving this slightly, but it's still annoying. The dictatorial hold Apple has on it's App Store is fairly fucking annoying too, considering I do use Android as well, there are several Google apps and products I'd love to be able to use on my iPhone, but I'm stuck with garbage third-party developed apps or no support at all for things like Google+ and GTalk all because Apple has to whip out the tape measure and make sure they have a bigger dick than Google.

Regardless, it comes down to opinion. Use what works for you, not what everyone else thinks. If you think something else might work better, try it out. Just don't buy phones outright, huge waste of money. Signing a contract and paying it out usually still results in at least a $50 discount on the phone, or buy used, just test the product beforehand.

So after that huge ridiculous post, I'd say yes it was obviously worth the price since you bought it. If you didn't actually want it you wouldn't shell out $850 for it.

EDIT: @James, you actually do have to make an account (used Hotmail all my life, fucking HATE Gmail beyond belief) and I was forced to make a Google account to download even free apps. And then if I wanted a 99 cent app, I had to load a credit card into a Google Checkout account, no PayPal or "prepaid card" option like Apple. So that's a very one-sided argument, both companies are fucking retarded and equally useless when it comes to payment methods or account sign-ups for getting any kind of apps.
 

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The newest Android phones are just frankly better in all respects, bar fancy advertising campaigns, and cheaper. But iPohnes are still great.
 

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Fieldy409 said:
but im not sure its 800 dollar cool
There's an app for that.

(full disclosure: iPhone 3GS owner, neutral stance towards apple, iTunes hater)

While i'm pretty sure you could have gotten it cheaper, back when i got my phone (2 years ago) the TCO (total cost of ownership, so gadget price + contract price for 2 years) was a bit above 1000 EUR, and the androids on the market back then weren't an alternative due to multiple considerations (usability being on of them, although to be fair that has changed a lot... modern androids are very decent gadgets). I'm not too shocked at the cost, although with new models being around the corner (early fall apparently), getting one now isn't what i would have done.

However, regardless of whether you went with an iPhone or an Android, i'd actually say that the smartphones are 800 dollars worth of cool: You always have a decent camera with you (the best camera available being the on you have with you), you always have an mp3 player on you (do look up podcasts on iTunes - they're free and it's like radio where you get to decide the program; also: synching podcasts is probably the only thing iTunes does well :p), always have the internet in your pocket, a mobile gaming device on you, and there literally is an app for everything.

One app you should get NOW (or better yet: yesterday) is AppShopper (appshopper.com if you want to make an account with lists of apps you want to have, and be alerted when they drop in price). Prices in the AppStore change frequently, and often stuff is for free for 2-3 weeks, before going back to costing money; but when you "buy" it while free, it's yours, no matter what later price changes are. A good policy is therefore to look into what apps have gone free, and get them if you have the slightest interest in them - you can always delete them if they turn out not to be what you wanted.

You might also want to keep an eye on Jailbreaking stuff - just in case you want a bit more out of your iPhone than Apple will let you have (SBSettings for example :p ).

PS: Don't fall into the fanboy wars trap. Android vs. iOs are both valid options, iOS being more polished, Android being more open. Get whatever device seems best for you, and learn to actually use it :)

I'm due for a new phone, and keeping my eyes on the next slate of releases, which should see iPhone 5 (or 4S or whatever) vs new Galaxys & HTCs - i'll decide when they're on the market & i can see what Product vs. TCO really is (also, i might go for the gadget without a new contract, seeing as i reallreallreally like my current one - it's a essentially a flatrate everything for 17.50 EUR/month :p)
 

cgaWolf

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I wouldn't say "paying more for less quality", as i don't see quality problems with apple products - but you do pay a bit more for the apple logo ;)
 

GlitchZero

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Yeah I don't agree with that at all. The iPhone 4 in hand just feels solid and well-built out of quality materials. The same cannot be said for MANY Android or WP7 devices, and most BlackBerries might as well say Fisher Price on the side of them.
 

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Fieldy409 said:
So i bought myself an iphone just recently for 850 dollars australian. But im kinda feeling like i should have saved that money. I mean, the things cool, but im not sure its 800 dollar cool. What do you guys think, maybe youd like to mention some apps that you feel justifys the purchase or whatever.
If you really want that full value out of it then some people would probably suggest that you Jailbreak it (your decision, of course) but if you need a phone and an iPod Touch (which is essentially what it is) then stop thinking of the huge dent in your wallet and go listen to music or something and be grateful you own one.
 

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hmm. i come back to this and have a look. ouch. apparently i could have bought the damn thing for 200.

well shit.

edit: oh and its an iphone 4 in case your wondering.
 

monkey jesus

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Griffolion said:
monkey jesus said:
I have the choice of an iPhone or Android next month so thanks for this thread.

I currently have a Sony Ericson with a really good camera and I use my wife's iPod for music when I'm running.

I'm leaning towards something with a decent camera probably on Android, mostly based on what I'll use the phone for as opposed to what it's capable of. Also Android has higher geek-cred in the circles I run in and sadly that is a factor in my decision.
You'll be best off with the Sony Ericsson Arc then, it has Sony's Exmor sensor tech in there, making it one of the best smart phones for cameras at the minute. Not to mention the user experience has been reported to be really good, and it's stupidly thin.

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I was thinking that to but cheers for the recommendation. I have a Satio at the moment and I don't actually *need* to change it, but you know..............
 

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It cost me $50 USD for my Droid Incredible a year or so ago and it does almost if not everything an iPhone (3G) does and everything I want it to do. So I would say no $850 is not worth it.

I would never buy a phone that costs more than a laptop/computer at current market price unless they have comparable functionality. Seriously you could have built a fairly powerful computer for $850
 

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Im Australian and i had an iphone 3g for 2 years...i chucked it out and got a HTC Incredible S and now i;d never go back to an iphone...i love macs but the iphone is just an expensive brick