Well, He was nice enough to give us some guidelines to live by, but I know what you mean, hence my desire to follow my own plan in lieu of waiting for His.Pirate Kitty said:Mkay.
I've actually got depression and have been having a difficult time of the past few years. I tried to find comfort in a god, but it actually made me angry; it may me feel he didn't care or want to help me.
But this is all off-topic. Thanks for answering all my questions so nicely. I hope your day or night goes well![]()
I (politely) disagree on both points.Ashcrexl said:my issue with this is, why? of course since you exist, you might as well make other peoples life more tolerable, but why? so they can lead more happy lives? why? so they can improve someone else's life? why? so they can enjoy the shit out of their own life? why? so that you can die, rendering your entire existence of improving other people's lives and enjoying your own life pointless? why?Digi7 said:I strongly believe we make our own purpose. For instance, my purpose is to make beautiful things for other people to enjoy, and to find love to share with others. To have as many exciting, unique and beautiful experiences as is possible on this earth... And browsing a forum isn't one of them, keep in mind![]()
also, there so few interesting experiences in the world to soak up. if i live longer than 25 years, i will be very disappointed indeed.
Is it just me or are you just a bit pretentious? Having degrees and reading up is all good, but thinking for yourself is more important, wouldn't you agree? And you don't have to be a narcissist to consider, say, China being a hoax. Other people may me targeted as victims to fool, too. Of course, the scenario is wildly improbable, but still, considering improbable scenarios is what keeps the mind (and the geek culture) going.JRiseley said:edit* Of course the whole world could be tricking you, but the utter narcissism to even contemplate that is ridiculous.
double-edit* I'm not being harsh or trying to offend, but seriously, unless you have a philosophy degree or have read up on it don't even touch solipsism and existentialism and the like.
Social codes exist to further our own existence and happiness. If you can reasonably trust I won't steal your stuff, and I can reasonably trust you won't steal mine, then we both of us- individually or in collaboration for greater gains - can set out to accumulate more, pursue partners or whatnot.Thaius said:If anyone can choose whatever their purpose is, there is no purpose to life as a whole. Relativism in most philosophical areas (purpose, morality, etc.) completely destroys any sort of value or purpose it could have. If there is no general purpose in life, then the only purpose is to live a selfish life and ensure our own existence and happiness in whatever way we see fit. The only reason to do otherwise would be social codes and values, but what point do they have if the point of our entire existence is up to the individual?
To me, Religion and ideals exist not because of our fear of ignorance; but because the ordeal of living a life, whilst accepting that, at any given moment, there are a shit-ton of variables that can end our lives instantaneously (earthquakes, Heart attacks, strokes.etc.), is just too much to bare. It would be like living with a noose round you're neck forever.Digi7 said:Ever since we began here in this obscene and strange world, we have tried to make sense of it. It's what we do, we pull things apart so we can understand then, because we fear ignorance.
See religion, ideals, philosophies, etcetera.
JRiseley said:Funny thing is this isn't in itself unique, Einstein believed something similar. 'ts called Spinoza's God.Averant said:Ah, philosphy. The unanswerable question.
I'm similar to an athiest, but I had fun and came up with my own faith. I call it Univism. I believe that the universe is eternal, a living thing. And I don't mean just endless is distance. It's eternal in all aspects. Each big bang/big crunch is a heartbeat. There were infinitely many big bangs before now, and there will be infinitely many after. There is no God as we know him, the universe itself is the ultimate force of nature, IS nature. And we are part of it, made of it, so we ourselves are eternal.
Hey, philosphy can be fun if you want it to be. XD
So, to relate to the OT, life is pointless. What we do doesn't matter. Live life and have fun.
They don't have nothing to do with the question, they're just not the right answers. It always mucks up polls when you try to include reasons into them, people should just leave reasons for the discussion part of the thread. The answers should really be a simple "Yes/No", the extended reasoning only make the whole thing rather silly. "No, this life is pointless" is clearly a vote for "Yes" in the original question.Lyx said:The meaning of "existence" is relative to the english language.
Also, i could not reasonably vote, because the answers have nothing to do with the question. Actually, almost everything in this thread is a contradiction.
Exactly, there are only so many things humans can comprehend.HT_Black said:Existence is an incomparably vast and complex thing, and to stretch your mind beyond its limits is to invite a quick and unfufilling death. There are only so many things humans can comprehend, and the nature of the universe is not among that number.
So, in short: yeah, I guess.