Poll: Is Yahtzee serious?

[Erttheking]

This is something I have been thinking about for some time now, Yahtzee has stated to hate a lot of games and when I try to remember it all I recall him hating, third person shooters, first person shooters, real time strategies, RPGs JRPGs and just about everything the Wii churned out, and that's just off of the top of my head. I've seen a couple of people say that he's in character during his reveiws while others say they're his honest opinion and frankly I'm a little lost here. If he is in character I can't help but notice that he practically never breaks it on this website and quite a few people has begun to despise him. On the other hand if he isn't in character it's rather jarring that he honestly hates so many of the games out there and truly beleives them to be bland and unoriginal.

I get the feeling there is no right or wrong anwser to this so what do you think?

He actually likes a variety of different games. He doesn't hate particular genre's, he just hates boring games with no backstory or fun. He likes Saints Row 2 for example, Silent Hill 1 & 2, Driver San Fransico & many other games. He just isn't into boring games, least boring to him.

By the way, probably not the best time to go into yahtzee hating since it will just feel like your a GOW or Warhammer fan who's buttsore.

At what point did I even imply that I hated him? All I said was that he confused the Hell out of me, and frankly I like Halo 3 Halo Reach, Red Dead Redemption, GTA 4, and GOW 2, games that Yahtzee has torn apart and I enjoyed his reviews there.

 

[DarkhoIlow]

I don't know why you really expected from Mr.Croshaw(Yahtzee).

He is a critic and likes to nitpick and point out every problem of the game he "reviews" in a comedic way,that's his thing and that's why we enjoy watching his videos.Some of his points are on the spot and I can fully agree with him.Keep in mind to always take his videos/Extra Punctuation with a extra grain of salt.

 

[Erttheking]

If he is in character I can't help but notice that he practically never breaks it on this website and quite a few people has begun to despise him.

I don't think he cares.

On the other hand if he isn't in character it's rather jarring that he honestly hates so many of the games out there and truly beleives them to be bland and unoriginal.

Maybe it's because (here's a real shocker) they are bland and unoriginal. You play them, you enjoy some more and some less and forget about them not long after that. If you play the same kind of game, only with different textures, setting and voice acting, you stop enjoying it and just feel nauseous.
I, for example, like Gears of War. However, after playing Army of Two, Resident Evil 5 and several others that I can't even remember at the moment, I like it a bit less.

I get the feeling there is no right or wrong anwser to this so what do you think?

If you think that way then maybe you should rephrase the question?

You're not being overly helpful here. Also I have played games such as COD, Halo, GOW, Fallout and GTA. While I may not have spread out enough to see the massive blandness that you and Yahtzee have such issues with, I believe that every game has it's own style that makes it unique. But then again, like what you and Yahtzee say, that's just my opinion.

 

[Erttheking]

This is something I have been thinking about for some time now, Yahtzee has stated to hate a lot of games and when I try to remember it all I recall him hating, third person shooters, first person shooters, real time strategies, RPGs JRPGs and just about everything the Wii churned out, and that's just off of the top of my head. I've seen a couple of people say that he's in character during his reveiws while others say they're his honest opinion and frankly I'm a little lost here. If he is in character I can't help but notice that he practically never breaks it on this website and quite a few people has begun to despise him. On the other hand if he isn't in character it's rather jarring that he honestly hates so many of the games out there and truly beleives them to be bland and unoriginal.

I get the feeling there is no right or wrong anwser to this so what do you think?

Why is he not serious? I agree with him on 99% of his reviews as any gamer who did not grow up on this generation of shit would appreciate just how bad games have become. Devs no longer add anything original or ground-breaking any more (eg. storyline, gameplay, music)and all they want is a guaranteed revenue for their investors and share holders.

As someone who grew up playing my Dad's old super nintendo and NES rather religiously, I throughly disagree with him. Hell, my dad's a COD fan, and he's fifty.

 

[Erttheking]

I get the feeling there is no right or wrong anwser to this so what do you think?

Well, since 95% of pretty much everything IS bland, unoriginal crap, it doesn't surprise me at all.

When I go into a game store, I see at least 95% crap. The 5% that isn't crap is what I end up buying and populates my game shelf.

Of course, to someone else, much of that crap isn't crap - that's the ***** about personal preference. Just because I think it's crap doesn't mean it isn't someone else's favorite game.

When I listen to a Yahtzee review, I firmly believe that everything he is saying is the truth, as far as he's concerned. I also know that he and I have some tastes in common, and some that differ.

For instance - I hated Prince of Persia: Sands of Time. I loved the Prince of Persia reboot. (I liked that one because I liked having infinite lives, so I could enjoy playing around in the giant Parkor sandbox the game presented without worrying about running low on "sand"). Yahtzee liked the infinite lives (it and the parkor was about his only compliments for the whole game). He hated the JRPG overtones - I loved them.

Anyway, I digress. The point is, I have no problem believing that he hates most games he plays because he plays WAY more games than the average person. If he only played the ones he liked, then he'd play far fewer games. If I had to play a new game every week, I'm sure I'd hate most of them too.

So, Sturgeon's Law is in play for him? I guess that would make sense, I guess the moral here is to not overload yourself with games.

 

[Erttheking]

Jesus H. Christ, I did not expect this thread to get a fraction of the attention that it did.

 

[Frankster]

Those that take his opinion seriously though...Well they are the reason we can't have nice things xD

I don't know about that. I do take his opinion seriously when considering whether a game is worth getting or trying out. I have watched enough ZP now that I can figure through tone and what he says whether the game is ok or horrible without him having to give a recommendation.

I'd hope you base your prospective buys on more then just yahtzees approval though

 

[Lunar Templar]

Bearing in mind that he has had to play a new game every week for the last 2 years or something, his honest opinion about games might be a bit different from most people.

But, he's british, he's obliged to be snarky.

i thought it was mandatory ....

but yeah, pretty sure he's serious.

and as the quotee, point out, 1 new game, a week, for 2 years. 'him hating everything' is less surprising and more expected, pretty sure I'd start hating every game that came out if i had to play all the shit he has.

 

[M920CAIN]

Hate is a strong word. Yahtzee will be Yahtzee. you gotta luv'him fo' that.

 

[roneel]

yahtzee is a god *bows down*

 

[Jimbo1212]

As someone who grew up playing my Dad's old super nintendo and NES rather religiously, I throughly disagree with him. Hell, my dad's a COD fan, and he's fifty.

Well some peoples experience of games have allowed them to develop a refined taste in games, people such as Yahtzee and myself. However some people have not learnt anything from past games and will simply buy anything as they have never thought about the reasons behind their actions.

I also think to have this refined taste you also have to have play a healthy mix of games from many genres and consoles, not live on one or two religiously as that will likely bias ones opinion.

 

[tycho0042]

I doubt all the hate he throws out for these games are completely genuine. He plays up a fair deal of it for effect like everyone else says. Though, I find most of his opinions to be fairly valid once you filter out some of the venom he usually packs into his reviews. The only review of his I can really disagree with was his Dead island review. I thought the game was actually quite fun in spite of his outright hatred of it.

As someone who grew up playing my Dad's old super nintendo and NES rather religiously, I throughly disagree with him. Hell, my dad's a COD fan, and he's fifty.

Well some peoples experience of games have allowed them to develop a refined taste in games, people such as Yahtzee and myself. However some people have not learnt anything from past games and will simply buy anything as they have never thought about the reasons behind their actions.

I also think to have this refined taste you also have to have play a healthy mix of games from many genres and consoles, not live on one or two religiously as that will likely bias ones opinion.

Um....pardon? I played Nintendo for years before getting an xbox and frankly ever since then I just can't play my Wii again, everything on the xbox just seems more fun. I have played multiple series on both the Xbox and Nintendo consoles, every game has their own style that make them unique. I have played Super Mario 64, Super Mario sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario (1-3) Metroid Prime 1-3, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Ocarina of time, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Star Fox Assualt, Star Fox 64, Call of Duty Modern Warfare (1 and 2) Call of Duty Black Ops, Battlefield 2 Bad company, Halo 3, Halo Reach, Grand Theft Auto 4, Red Dead Redemption, Gears of WAr (2 and 3). I'd like to think that my horizons are pretty wide.

From what I see of your game list I think you're not as diverse as you'd like to believe.
I see 5 platformers, 3 rpgs, 3 action/adventure, 2 sandbox, not sure what to classify star fox as but the remaining games are all shooters. about half of your collection listed are shooters

 

[Erttheking]

As someone who grew up playing my Dad's old super nintendo and NES rather religiously, I throughly disagree with him. Hell, my dad's a COD fan, and he's fifty.

Well some peoples experience of games have allowed them to develop a refined taste in games, people such as Yahtzee and myself. However some people have not learnt anything from past games and will simply buy anything as they have never thought about the reasons behind their actions.

I also think to have this refined taste you also have to have play a healthy mix of games from many genres and consoles, not live on one or two religiously as that will likely bias ones opinion.

Um....pardon? I played Nintendo for years before getting an xbox and frankly ever since then I just can't play my Wii again, everything on the xbox just seems more fun. I have played multiple series on both the Xbox and Nintendo consoles, every game has their own style that make them unique. I have played Super Mario 64, Super Mario sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario (1-3) Metroid Prime 1-3, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Ocarina of time, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Star Fox Assualt, Star Fox 64, Call of Duty Modern Warfare (1 and 2) Call of Duty Black Ops, Battlefield 2 Bad company, Halo 3, Halo Reach, Grand Theft Auto 4, Red Dead Redemption, and Gears of War (2 and 3). I'd like to think that my horizons are pretty wide.

 

[Krantos]

Watch the MindJack Review. The opening segment sums him up pretty well.

Basically what other have said: Honest opinion, riddled with hyperbole.

 

[Jimbo1212]

As someone who grew up playing my Dad's old super nintendo and NES rather religiously, I throughly disagree with him. Hell, my dad's a COD fan, and he's fifty.

Well some peoples experience of games have allowed them to develop a refined taste in games, people such as Yahtzee and myself. However some people have not learnt anything from past games and will simply buy anything as they have never thought about the reasons behind their actions.

I also think to have this refined taste you also have to have play a healthy mix of games from many genres and consoles, not live on one or two religiously as that will likely bias ones opinion.

Um....pardon? I played Nintendo for years before getting an xbox and frankly ever since then I just can't play my Wii again, everything on the xbox just seems more fun. I have played multiple series on both the Xbox and Nintendo consoles, every game has their own style that make them unique. I have played Super Mario 64, Super Mario sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario (1-3) Metroid Prime 1-3, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Ocarina of time, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Star Fox Assualt, Star Fox 64, Call of Duty Modern Warfare (1 and 2) Call of Duty Black Ops, Battlefield 2 Bad company, Halo 3, Halo Reach, Grand Theft Auto 4, Red Dead Redemption, and Gears of War (2 and 3). I'd like to think that my horizons are pretty wide.

You prove my point - now that you have gone outside of just Nintendo, you realise that many of their recent titles are dire.
However, why have you not played on a PlayStation yet or PC??? Until you have played everything, how can you have a well rounded opinion? This is why I think Yahtzee is serious as he has done this and so have I which is why I agree with most of his views.

NB. That list of games is very small. I have played well over a few hundred games (think about every series of games at the moment - I have played the original to the new ones).

 

[Dango]

His job is to entertain, so no, I don't take most of his points seriously.

 

[Erttheking]

The Gears 3 review - Just watch it. There's several moments where he himself admits to not knowing or "remembering" any of the major details in the previous games, and yet comments on nothing but the plot or story (which isn't the point of these games anyways). His supposed counter argument was that "people wouldn't mention the story if he said it was good". Which is pretty stupid if you think about it.

Oh yeah, a game being forgettable and bland so that he doesn't remember much is his fault, which means that it's objectivly not bland and forgettable. Hey wait a minute...

And what do you mean "not the point of these games anyway"? A game is supposed to tell a story through an interactive medium, that's like saying: "Avatar is the best movie ever made, because the story,acting, script, dialogue and practically anything but the effects weas the point of it, the effect are the best, so therefor the movie is best!" Fucking frog-logic.

And you know what, he says the story is bad, people say that the story isn't important. He says that the story is good, people say that the story is good. If you do not see the stupidity of the people in the last sentence, well, you simply don't understand what he means.

It all fairness, Yahtzee seems to treat everyone who plays gears of war as a mindless fanboy who will use whatever defense necessary to block his insults. Frankly I do believe that plot is a key part of a game, and while a game can survive without a plot it's usually better if it has one, this is one of the reasons that Lost Planet 2 is gathering dust on my shelf despite the gameplay being decent. The thing is I thought Gears 3 did it's story telling rather well and the guy has a point. If you make someone watch Return of the Jedi two years after watching a New Hope and the Empire strikes back, he can harp on about how the plot didn't make any sense because he didn't remember it but this isn't fair for two reasons. 1. Yahtzee plays a game, has to think up jokes, write a script put the video together, do the voice acting and write blog posts all in one week while squeezing in the rest of his life around it. That doesn't sound like the proper way to become immersed in a game and properly remember it. 2. Even if the plot to the first two games were completely forgettable, it's not Gears 3's fault, it was Gears 1 and 2's fault and it seems unfair that it gets marked down because of the quality of the games that came before it. Also if he did forget, why didn't he watch the five minute recap video that was on the disk and had a nice big exclamation point next to it that summed everything up nicely and was convently located on the same menu as start campaign?

 

[Erttheking]

As someone who grew up playing my Dad's old super nintendo and NES rather religiously, I throughly disagree with him. Hell, my dad's a COD fan, and he's fifty.

Well some peoples experience of games have allowed them to develop a refined taste in games, people such as Yahtzee and myself. However some people have not learnt anything from past games and will simply buy anything as they have never thought about the reasons behind their actions.

I also think to have this refined taste you also have to have play a healthy mix of games from many genres and consoles, not live on one or two religiously as that will likely bias ones opinion.

Um....pardon? I played Nintendo for years before getting an xbox and frankly ever since then I just can't play my Wii again, everything on the xbox just seems more fun. I have played multiple series on both the Xbox and Nintendo consoles, every game has their own style that make them unique. I have played Super Mario 64, Super Mario sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy, Paper Mario (1-3) Metroid Prime 1-3, Super Metroid, Metroid Fusion, Ocarina of time, Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Star Fox Assualt, Star Fox 64, Call of Duty Modern Warfare (1 and 2) Call of Duty Black Ops, Battlefield 2 Bad company, Halo 3, Halo Reach, Grand Theft Auto 4, Red Dead Redemption, and Gears of War (2 and 3). I'd like to think that my horizons are pretty wide.

You prove my point - now that you have gone outside of just Nintendo, you realise that many of their recent titles are dire.
However, why have you not played on a PlayStation yet or PC??? Until you have played everything, how can you have a well rounded opinion? This is why I think Yahtzee is serious as he has done this and so have I which is why I agree with most of his views.

NB. That list of games is very small. I have played well over a few hundred games (think about every series of games at the moment - I have played the original to the new ones).

Ugh, first of all, I am not buying a game on a PS3 because a PS3 costs more than I am willing to spend, however several PS3 games have sparked my interest, including Uncharted, Resistance, MGS, Valkeria Councils and Infamous, but I'm just not willing to spend money for just that handful. Also, those games that I listed were only a fraction of the games that I have played, if I was to list every game that I have ever played this would be one freaking long post, I'd say that I'd played around a couple hundred games too, didn't think that I'd have to mention that. As for PC, I mainly use my dad's computer, and he would kill me if I started clogging it up with stuff like Starcraft. Incidentally I only haven't played Wii because frankly I'm a violent shooter guy, something the Wii lacks. I still go back and play Metroid sometimes.