Poll: Let's settle something right now, can you defend yourself with a gun?
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Nah I need to own 2 assault rifles, a bunch of SMGs and a room full of handguns to defend myself against neighbourhood animals and children, cause I live in MURICA.
Seriously though if someone had a knife I wouldn't try and defend myself, it would depend on the size and shape of the attacker. No one would attack you with a gun where I live unless you were involved in organised crime since guns are illegal.
Seriously though if someone had a knife I wouldn't try and defend myself, it would depend on the size and shape of the attacker. No one would attack you with a gun where I live unless you were involved in organised crime since guns are illegal.
If I remember my stats correctly there are 63-85 thousand cases of personal defence with a firearm every year in the US.
You can in a few very unlikely scenarios, most of those scenarios where shooting someone would be overkill and should get you arrested.
The only time a gun would be useful is if someone is trying to kill you and is bad enough at it to give you time to shoot them. If you are getting mugged and shoot someone, you deserve jail time. Whats more important? Your wallet or someones life?
The only time a gun would be useful is if someone is trying to kill you and is bad enough at it to give you time to shoot them. If you are getting mugged and shoot someone, you deserve jail time. Whats more important? Your wallet or someones life?
Can I defend myself with a gun?
Well there's nothing physically stopping me from doing so apart from the fact I don't own a gun.
Even if I did somehow come into possession of one, I don't think I could ever go through with shooting someone, not unless I truly believed I or someone else was in mortal danger and even then I'd have to have a good think about the consequences of pulling the trigger.
Well there's nothing physically stopping me from doing so apart from the fact I don't own a gun.
Even if I did somehow come into possession of one, I don't think I could ever go through with shooting someone, not unless I truly believed I or someone else was in mortal danger and even then I'd have to have a good think about the consequences of pulling the trigger.
well i CAN "defend" myself with a FIREARM is it legal? no not unless this guy (or girl for that matter lets not be sexist here) is actually threatening to or actively trying to kill me i cant legally use the firearm even though i have enough skill and no compunction against taking the life of criminal scum and i would likely be charged with improper use or storage of a firearm or something along those lines
i can on the other hand utilise other methods to defend myself if somehow confronted by afore mentioned criminal scum bag and so long as i do not go too over the top i am likely to be justified in using those methods
and given the massive lack of firearms in this country i will almost never be in the situation where there is a firearm within 100km of me
i can on the other hand utilise other methods to defend myself if somehow confronted by afore mentioned criminal scum bag and so long as i do not go too over the top i am likely to be justified in using those methods
and given the massive lack of firearms in this country i will almost never be in the situation where there is a firearm within 100km of me
I've never used a firearm, but I imagine if you handed me a loaded pistol with the safety off, I could probably improvise the "point and shoot" stage of gun ownership.
Anything else I got no idea - don't know where the safety catch is, don't know how to reload it, don't really know how to hold it, don't even know how to draw one very quickly. So if I went and bought a gun today, I'd be more of a danger to myself than any hypothetical intruder.
I have a black belt, though, so...I'd just karate-chop that guy in half then do a cool pose. /flex
Anything else I got no idea - don't know where the safety catch is, don't know how to reload it, don't really know how to hold it, don't even know how to draw one very quickly. So if I went and bought a gun today, I'd be more of a danger to myself than any hypothetical intruder.
I have a black belt, though, so...I'd just karate-chop that guy in half then do a cool pose. /flex
It's not a silly question at all. In fact I'm not sure I have an answer.Beffudled Sheep said:
I'm no criminology expert so I don't have much authority on this subject. I also am very lucky to live and have grown up in the middle of nowhere where very little happens.
However, I have seen plenty of stories on the news where farmers have defended their land (sometimes with a shotgun) or home owners have bashed intruders over the head with a household object. It's a pretty standard reaction to home invasion so I can't say I blame them. The problem is however, that they are usually arrested for GBH/ABH despite the fact that the burglar was clearly in the wrong. A case of two wrongs don't make a right maybe?
Point in case: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/sep/05/couple-shooting-burglary-home-released
As for what you should legally do in that situation, goodness only knows. But you would hope that your own justice system would back you up. Slowly I think we're making steps in this country to stand up for ourselves, to protect our own, law abiding citizens rather than shrinking back and hoping no one sees the shame of our inaction. /rant
That is a very badly written question...
Can I use a gun? Well... blatantly as a deployable member of the UK armed forces, yes, I can use a gun thank you.
On the other hand, should a gun be used for self defence? Well then that should be when there is an imminent threat to human life, either your own or someone else's. And only if you honestly believe that you, or the other person is ABOUT TO DIE! (Not get injured, or wounded.) Now, for this to be the case, the only time I would shoot someone in self defence is if they also have a gun. And as, in the UK, every Tom, Dick and Harry isn't carrying a gun, then there is no reason for me to have one.
Anyone arguing that you should be allowed a gun to defend against people with knives should also get their head checked... if you legalise guns to defend against people illegally carrying knives then you also legalise the nutters with the knives to carry guns too... well done... escalation of violence right there...
Guns should not be allowed to the general public... Why? As a whole, the general public are too erratic and lack the conviction and common sense to use them responsibly!
Can I use a gun? Well... blatantly as a deployable member of the UK armed forces, yes, I can use a gun thank you.
On the other hand, should a gun be used for self defence? Well then that should be when there is an imminent threat to human life, either your own or someone else's. And only if you honestly believe that you, or the other person is ABOUT TO DIE! (Not get injured, or wounded.) Now, for this to be the case, the only time I would shoot someone in self defence is if they also have a gun. And as, in the UK, every Tom, Dick and Harry isn't carrying a gun, then there is no reason for me to have one.
Anyone arguing that you should be allowed a gun to defend against people with knives should also get their head checked... if you legalise guns to defend against people illegally carrying knives then you also legalise the nutters with the knives to carry guns too... well done... escalation of violence right there...
Guns should not be allowed to the general public... Why? As a whole, the general public are too erratic and lack the conviction and common sense to use them responsibly!
Yes, a knife can kill someone... but it's a lot harder to kill someone with a knife than a gun. There is a higher probability of killing someone with a gun than a knife, witch puts them on different levels of lethality and danger.FelixG said:You dont think a knife can kill someone?Elementary - Dear Watson said:
Well, I guess the UKs military needs a bit of work in its training
Also, we use bayonets not knives when up close and personal... or failing that, as an officer I am more likely just to have a pistol on me in combat, with an effective range of 7-15m... :/
No experience with them but I'm fairly certain that a gun can be used for self-defense. I'd say it's a pretty crappy method though considering it's pretty likely to end in serious injuries.
Again, no experience with this stuff, but wouldn't things like pepper-spray, stun guns or tasers be equally effective and a lot less likely to cause serious injury?
Again, no experience with this stuff, but wouldn't things like pepper-spray, stun guns or tasers be equally effective and a lot less likely to cause serious injury?