Poll: Logic or morality?

[Souplex]

Morality is generally the result of logic. Otherwise it's just following the commands of others and believing that is moral.

 

[zehydra]

I actually have no concept of societal rules and morality. I use logic to dictate my morality.

that's a contradictory statement. On the one hand, you say that you have no morality, and on the other hand, you say you have a morality based on logic.

Which is it?

 

[crudus]

that's a contradictory statement. On the one hand, you say that you have no morality, and on the other hand, you say you have a morality based on logic.

Which is it?

I didn't say that. I said morality dictated by society. I can understand the confusion since a lot of people would lump morality into societal norms/rules(both do change from place to place).

 

[zehydra]

that's a contradictory statement. On the one hand, you say that you have no morality, and on the other hand, you say you have a morality based on logic.

Which is it?

I didn't say that. I said morality dictated by society. I can understand the confusion since a lot of people would lump morality into societal norms/rules(both do change from place to place).

"I actually have no concept of societal rules and morality. I use logic to dictate my morality."

I get what you meant now though lol.

 

[Hammartroll]

just because you call it logic dosn't mean your right. Humans don't know everything, so their logic can be faulty. Morals on the other hand are passed down by generations as things you should do or else things might go bad. Essentially, morals are logic; logic that has been perfected through out history.
I'll trust my morals before my logic (unless I am unusually certain of something) because I know I'm not the smartest person on Earth.

 

[Worgen]

logic since morality tends to be easily warped for weirdness

 

[Baneat]

I do whatever works out best for me.

Which means your morality follows the logic of self-benefit.

Actually, scratch that, that's amorality. But; you probably don't follow it as solidly as you might think. Stealing lying and piracy all work out best for you at the cost of others, but something will stop you from such extreme egotism.

Morality based on the logic of reason works best to me, there's no exclusivity between the two.

 

[Jordan Snidal]

in general, you should weigh your decision to try and improve the overall quality of life

 

[Vault101]

both..its all about balance after all

 

[drisky]

Logic, because morality is subjective and constantly changing, but logic is more consistent.

2+2 is always 4, but one can talk all day about whether or not killing can be justified for example.

 

[Hammartroll]

I would say, rather than have Logic vs. Morality, you should have Logic vs. Compassion. Logic, as others have said, is the basis of morality.
And I vote Logic!!

I agree that this would be a better question.
But even still I have found that compassion, or acting with the intent of good will, is always the logical decision, because anything else is self destructive.

although you can still be a hardass when you need to be

 

[Vault101]

So I was watching Irobot cause I didn't have much else to do and I was thinking how Vicky was a machine designed for absolute cold hard logic and it was based around the three laws. The doctor who built sunny designed him for Superior morality what is viewed right and wrong. Sunny did what he thought was right and what he was taught what was right. Vicky did what would be the logically answer. So escapist what would you rather have a world of morality where we do what we think is right or a world where we go by whats more safe and efficient?

hmmm...I would have suported vickeys veiw if that ment shia labouf gets his face smashed in

however then will smith comes and ruins it...

I mean I dont hate him personally but that the hell was he doing in that movie?

 

[Baneat]

I do whatever works out best for me.

Which means your morality follows the logic of self-benefit.

Actually, scratch that, that's amorality. But; you probably don't follow it as solidly as you might think. Stealing lying and piracy all work out best for you at the cost of others, but something will stop you from such extreme egotism.

Morality based on the logic of reason works best to me, there's no exclusivity between the two.

Well, I do whatever works best for me as far as my foresight can see.

Example: I won't steal from someone if there is a chance of me getting caught. I will help someone if I think there is a good chance I will gain something from it now or some time in the near future. I will lie if I can get away with it and it serves me well to do so, but not if telling the truth gains me more. I will turn myself in if there is a 50% chance or better of being caught - that way I can bank on getting credit for coming forward. Stuff like that.

Hypothetical - 0% chance of getting caught or even acknowledged by anyone else for the action

Steal a homeless man's lunch

Trying to isolate the part where you only consider your own benefit, with coincidentally "good" actions derived from an ulterior motive.

 

[Baneat]

I do whatever works out best for me.

Which means your morality follows the logic of self-benefit.

Actually, scratch that, that's amorality. But; you probably don't follow it as solidly as you might think. Stealing lying and piracy all work out best for you at the cost of others, but something will stop you from such extreme egotism.

Morality based on the logic of reason works best to me, there's no exclusivity between the two.

Well, I do whatever works best for me as far as my foresight can see.

Example: I won't steal from someone if there is a chance of me getting caught. I will help someone if I think there is a good chance I will gain something from it now or some time in the near future. I will lie if I can get away with it and it serves me well to do so, but not if telling the truth gains me more. I will turn myself in if there is a 50% chance or better of being caught - that way I can bank on getting credit for coming forward. Stuff like that.

Hypothetical - 0% chance of getting caught or even acknowledged by anyone else for the action

Steal a homeless man's lunch

Trying to isolate the part where you only consider your own benefit, with coincidentally "good" actions derived from an ulterior motive.

If I'm hungry, there is no chance at all of being caught, and the benefits of stealing his food outweigh any other option (like pretending to be nice to him in front of someone for moral credit with them) then I will be eatin' homeless food!

You're not hungry, there's actually a very rich man offering you five cents for the unneeded(by you) lunch. try not to dally the point I'm driving with loopholing, I can seal them all, it's just unnecessary effort.

 

[dagens24]

Ummm, logic and morality aren't mutually exclusive.

 

[Waaghpowa]

There needs to be a balance of both. I believe that rationality is more important. Cold hard logic is simply that, cold, while having a moral compass allows for one to differentiate right from wrong. In certain cases, logic could actually condemn someone, while morality could obscure ones perspective.

Trying to isolate the part where you only consider your own benefit, with coincidentally "good" actions derived from an ulterior motive.

I actually had a thought regarding this. Is it possible to be truly selfless? Meaning can you do something, without getting anything in return? To me, a selfless act gains no reward in any shape or form. For example: A man sacrifices his life to save the life of another. Is this truly "Selfless"? You could argue yes, but if you take into account that he will be revered as someone who saved the day, he has indeed received something. Though not intentionally.