Poll: Make-up for men. Where do you stand?
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I'm against it, and not because it's unmanly or gay or whatever, but because makeup is an asinine, predatory industry built on tearing down consumers' self-esteem to pit people against each other and instill the need to smear DIRT on themselves, at a retail markup that would make Francis Drake draft up protest signs. And no, I don't believe that make-up is only for people who just want to look good for themselves anymore than I believe there are that many people with sore necks in dire need of a good massager. There are already plenty of industries that prey on male insecurity to survive, we don't need one more.
More importantly than the issue of an industry derailing human progress by manipulating society's collective self-image for profit, can I just point out that makeup doesn't actually work? Like, have you ever seen one of those home shopping channels show off some ridiculously expensive powder or cream, gushing about how it's the culmination of all cosmetic science from Egypt forth, and been utterly unable to tell the difference after they put it on? I guess it's better than the '80's when the whole Barnum Bailey look was hot, but... really?
More importantly than the issue of an industry derailing human progress by manipulating society's collective self-image for profit, can I just point out that makeup doesn't actually work? Like, have you ever seen one of those home shopping channels show off some ridiculously expensive powder or cream, gushing about how it's the culmination of all cosmetic science from Egypt forth, and been utterly unable to tell the difference after they put it on? I guess it's better than the '80's when the whole Barnum Bailey look was hot, but... really?
Hell no, I don't want makeup to become normal for men!
[small]I won't be able to feel like a naughty little slut for wearing it if it's normal...[/small]
[small]I won't be able to feel like a naughty little slut for wearing it if it's normal...[/small]
David Mitchell's Soapbox much?The Artificially Prolonged said:
I don't even like make-up on WOMEN, and would prefer if the "beauty market" didn't exist much at all except for truly special occasions.
The reason I say this is because women (and men that wear make-up) constantly violate the most important rule of beauty-products: The goal of make-up is to make it look like you aren't wearing any. It's meant to make you look more natural, not like a robot covered in powder and paint.
And it looks just as tacky on men as it does (in many instances) on women, and equally unnecessary for, say, walking around campus or something. Going to a dance? Go ahead. Average day? No fucking point, and we as humans should stop being so artificial and vane.
The reason I say this is because women (and men that wear make-up) constantly violate the most important rule of beauty-products: The goal of make-up is to make it look like you aren't wearing any. It's meant to make you look more natural, not like a robot covered in powder and paint.
And it looks just as tacky on men as it does (in many instances) on women, and equally unnecessary for, say, walking around campus or something. Going to a dance? Go ahead. Average day? No fucking point, and we as humans should stop being so artificial and vane.
If you can pull it off then all power to you. Doesn't bother me.
I hate wearing makeup personally. I only really wear it because it's expected of me.
I hate wearing makeup personally. I only really wear it because it's expected of me.
I think its bad for anyone to feel expected to wear make up, Im fine with anyone wanting to wear make up if they choose to, men were pretty much doing it first anyhow with war paint and such, I think lots of us have too limited an idea of what gender means.
I think men should be ALLOWED to wear whatever make up -or clothing!- they like.
But all men, all the time? That's just the big factories dreaming of doubling their income.
I did get the barber to paint my hair bright red a week ago.
The very first alteration of my appearance ever!
(No, it was not graying, just wanted a new look)
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But all men, all the time? That's just the big factories dreaming of doubling their income.
I did get the barber to paint my hair bright red a week ago.
The very first alteration of my appearance ever!
(No, it was not graying, just wanted a new look)
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This is what I'm worried about. What if becomes expected of men too?Moonlight Butterfly said:
Hopefully it ends up going the other way, with neither gender expected to wear makeup, but I doubt the cosmetics industry will just let that happen.
Your poll question is kinda unclear. Do I think men should be expected to wear makeup? no, its annoying that women are already. Do I think men should be able to wear makeup? yes, if a guy wants to wear makeup power to him. I might still laugh at him if he pulls it off badly (same goes for women so whatever)
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Anyone who uses the word ?Alpha? to describe a product or themselves needs to be shot.
Sport Men's Alice Football Hairband? HA! I actually have a hair band exactly like that.(I?m female btw)
A puff is a puff, I didn't know there even there was stigma about guys using those.
Manscara? Are you kidding me? Why not just get mascara if you want to wear it. I don?t think the name mascara actually specifies a gender. It the same damn thing...oh right you need a new name so you?re not associated with those pathetic womanly things.
Completely off topic. I thought captcha was suppose to be a security thing not a fucking advertisement.
*reads article*
Anyone who uses the word ?Alpha? to describe a product or themselves needs to be shot.
Sport Men's Alice Football Hairband? HA! I actually have a hair band exactly like that.(I?m female btw)
A puff is a puff, I didn't know there even there was stigma about guys using those.
Manscara? Are you kidding me? Why not just get mascara if you want to wear it. I don?t think the name mascara actually specifies a gender. It the same damn thing...oh right you need a new name so you?re not associated with those pathetic womanly things.
Completely off topic. I thought captcha was suppose to be a security thing not a fucking advertisement.
Have to wear it? That'd be kind of annoying. I'd quite like to live in a world where people can paint their faces as part of their outfit, like Barbie from Sandman does in "A Game of You."
Depends on who's doing the measuring. A little misunderstood fact, women wear make more to impress other women than they do to attract men. I'm an expert at these things because my girlfriend works at the giant makeup store Sephora! Thankfully she's in skin care, so isn't into that clown makeup look.Combustion Kevin said:
Expected? For fantasy's sake we could say 'expected', but I'm guessing we're saying 'expected' because a lot of women wear make-up. Personally I'd much rather women didn't wear make-up. Be yourself. And spare everyone the mixed feelings when people see you without the facade.
Anyway, on to the hypothetical scenario of men with make-up. Green Day, Robert Pattison, it seems to work for some. I used to wear hair product, just don't care any more. That's the closest I can get to relating. I wouldn't wear make-up if it were required, for the same reason as not wearing hair product now, the payoff isn't there.
Anyway, on to the hypothetical scenario of men with make-up. Green Day, Robert Pattison, it seems to work for some. I used to wear hair product, just don't care any more. That's the closest I can get to relating. I wouldn't wear make-up if it were required, for the same reason as not wearing hair product now, the payoff isn't there.
I'd be more happy for the expectations of women to wear it to diminish to be honest.
But men who want to wear it? Hell yeah, I think if you wanna do something that's harmless enough you go do that shit. When it looks good, it looks good. But don't thrust expectations onto those who don't.
This is how the female make up industry got so monstrous. Girls are horrible bitches to each other when they don't fit into our ideals of perfection, and make life a living hell for the girls who don't conform to that idea. I want that stamped out.
Men in the other vein, have it tough if they want to break the mold too. They might be more likely to be cornered and beaten rather than psychologically tortured over a long period of time but it's still stupid.
But men who want to wear it? Hell yeah, I think if you wanna do something that's harmless enough you go do that shit. When it looks good, it looks good. But don't thrust expectations onto those who don't.
This is how the female make up industry got so monstrous. Girls are horrible bitches to each other when they don't fit into our ideals of perfection, and make life a living hell for the girls who don't conform to that idea. I want that stamped out.
Men in the other vein, have it tough if they want to break the mold too. They might be more likely to be cornered and beaten rather than psychologically tortured over a long period of time but it's still stupid.
I don't think the expectation for make-up is good for anyone, regardless of gender. So yes, it'd be bad if men were expected to wear make-up, but I think it's bad for women to be expected to as well. Everyone should just be free to wear it if they wish. And while it'd certainly be strange to see a guy wearing it, it's no stranger than other things I've seen in my life and after a while it'd just stop being novel.
Overall can't say I'd be all that thrilled about the prospect of being expected to wear make up. However, I don't think I'd start even if I was expected to. Down with this sort of thing and all that.
I think it would be all right, so long as while growing up we were 'trained' equally as well on how to actually use the stuff.
Until I was about 20 I personally thought moisturizer was just something for your hands,
and I've a hard enough time finding the 'correct' shampoo simply because it's something we're not usually taught to identify.
I'd quite like to know the hows and whys of makeup, and while youtube's a great source of info, trial and error is both expensive and embarrassing.
Until I was about 20 I personally thought moisturizer was just something for your hands,
and I've a hard enough time finding the 'correct' shampoo simply because it's something we're not usually taught to identify.
I'd quite like to know the hows and whys of makeup, and while youtube's a great source of info, trial and error is both expensive and embarrassing.