Poll: Many people don't know about the cure for aids

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Stalk3rchief

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I was shocked when I used the search bar and didn't find anything about the cure for aids in there. If it is, I admit I didn't look very far.
But yeah, I've known for months that a cure for Aids was stumbled upon in Germany, but I'm starting to think I'm one of few in America that know about it. Every time I bring it up, people react as if I'm an idiot who's making things up. The ignorance I've seen is astounding, especially since I expected news that huge to spread like wildfire.
I'm not calling any one at the Escapist ignorant, and wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if people replied to this stating they do in fact know about the cure.

Oh well, here's one of many articles on the subject matter:

"Holy crap. These guys in Germany just cured AIDS!

Of course, the procedure is so expensive, complicated, and risky that it's not replicable as a large-scale public health strategy, but we'll ignore that for a minute. Here's how they did it. Drs. Gero Hutter and Eckhard Thiel are blood cancer experts at the Charite Medical University in Berlin. Their patient, an American ex-pat, was suffering from leukemia as well as a full-blown case of AIDS. His case was so desperate that his doctors decided to get craaazy and give him a bone-marrow transplant--(this isn't the crazy part)--using blood stem cells from a donor who was immune to HIV (this is). About 10 years ago, doctors discovered that a few of their gay male patients never developed AIDS, despite engaging in risky sex with hundreds of partners. It turned out that they had a rare mutation called Delta 32 that blocks a molecule in HIV from adhering to the cell surface. Delta 32 must be inherited from both parents; it occurs at a rate of roughly 1 percent in European populations (it's more common in Northern Europe and much much, rarer--basically unheard of--in Africa and Asia), so it was difficult but not impossible for the doctors to find a donor in Germany who fit the bill. The patient was asked to stop taking his antiretroviral AIDS medication for the duration of the procedure with the understanding that he'd have to restart the meds fairly soon after the transplant was complete and the level of the virus in his bloodstream started to rise. But to everyone's surprise, it never rose, not at all. It has now been close to two years since the transplant, and there are still no traces of HIV in the patient's blood or brain tissues. So: success! A cure! For this guy, at least."

Here's the link for the full article - http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2008-11/cure-aids
 

wewontdie11

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You missed the disease fad for this one man. Nobody cares about HIV anymore, it's all about the Swine Flu!
 

Proteus214

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It is possible to develop a better cure, but most American medical research is geared toward more profitable enterprises...such as making women's boobs bigger...sometimes I hate capitalism.
 

Stalk3rchief

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wewontdie11 said:
You missed the disease fad for this one man. Nobody cares about HIV anymore, it's all about the Swine Flu!
lol
More people have been killed by the normal flu, no, the normal flu SHOT, compared to the swine flu.
Heh.
I always thought that was a fun fact.
Swine flu is silly.
 

Skreeee

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American medical research cares more about making money from ensuring a person can live with the disease comfortably than from actually curing it. Hence, no word about a cure when more money can still be made off the medicine prescribed to dull the effects.
 

Stalk3rchief

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Izzil said:
American medical research cares more about making money from ensuring a person can live with the disease comfortably than from actually curing it. Hence, no word about a cure when more money can still be made off the medicine prescribed to dull the effects.
Yeah I know, but they won't have many excuses now that Germany found a cure. That's why I hate health care, as does everyone, I'm sure.
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It's depressing how corrupt even the business of saving lives is these days.
 

TheNumber1Zero

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Proteus214 said:
It is possible to develop a better cure, but most American medical research is geared toward more profitable enterprises...such as making women's boobs bigger.
sorry man,the japanese already got that covered,and naturally too.

It's called the F-cup cookie.

OT: I think a good cure for AIDS is to try not to have random sex with random people,but obviously that was deemed impossible years ago.
 
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wewontdie11 said:
You missed the disease fad for this one man. Nobody cares about HIV anymore, it's all about the Swine Flu!
LOL! Fuck yes!! H1N1, my friends. Just wait until they perfect "the Cure" and it becomes affordable for the average household. Then we all can fuck like hippies again! Oh, great... in 18 years our streets will be populated by "mistakes".
 

wewontdie11

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Stalk3rchief said:
wewontdie11 said:
You missed the disease fad for this one man. Nobody cares about HIV anymore, it's all about the Swine Flu!
lol
More people have been killed by the normal flu, no, the normal flu SHOT, compared to the swine flu.
Heh.
I always thought that was a fun fact.
Swine flu is silly.
Yea I knew that too. I have a hard time convincing my family that they're all not going to die off some raging country wide epidemic of swine flu just because the papers want to sell a few more copies.

Seriously though I didn't know about that. The only cure for AIDS I heard about was the hoax one they cooked up in Africa somewhere.

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awesomebillfromdawsonville said:
LOL! Fuck yes!! H1N1, my friends. Just wait until they perfect "the Cure" and it becomes affordable for the average household. Then we all can fuck like hippies again! Oh, great... in 18 years our streets will be populated by "mistakes".
What do you mean again? Where I live is the European capital for teenage pregnancy and slags, and not any amount of lethal STIs will ever change that.
 

Stalk3rchief

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TheNumber1Zero said:
Proteus214 said:
It is possible to develop a better cure, but most American medical research is geared toward more profitable enterprises...such as making women's boobs bigger.
sorry man,the japanese already got that covered,and naturally too.

It's called the F-cup cookie.

OT: I think a good cure for AIDS is to try not to have random sex with random people,but obviously that was deemed impossible years ago.
lol.
Yeah, but there are still the kids that are stuck being born with it, or from people that had sex with someone who lied to them about it.
*shrug*
It's not always reckless sex.
 

Pandalisk

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W-w-w-what? theres a cure for aids? are you serious?
Sure its not perfect, but that can be worked on, Holy mother of divine christ
 

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Wow, I didn't know that. Although it's a bit too expensive to be effective on a large scale.
But why do I even care, it's not like I'm gonna get Aids with being completely antisocial.
 

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Stalk3rchief said:
wewontdie11 said:
You missed the disease fad for this one man. Nobody cares about HIV anymore, it's all about the Swine Flu!
lol
More people have been killed by the normal flu, no, the normal flu SHOT, compared to the swine flu.
Heh.
I always thought that was a fun fact.
Swine flu is silly.
Well. The 'dangerous' thing about this flu is that it spreads rapidly, making no one safe. Even though it isn't a very violent flu, it's a flu nevertheless. Old people, babies or people who don't have great health could get serious complications if infected by a flu, and possibly die. So, even if this flu isn't so dangerous, it spreads so far and widely that people who deliberately avoid infection of flus, might get infected.

Btw, I heard that the flu has mutated to a less lethal form, so it WAS somewhat dangerous, but has turned more user-friendly, so to speak.

Source; Pieces of information gather from hearing parts of television, radio and converstations.
Credibility; Not so good, but what I said sounds rational, but do research for yourself before taking this for granted.
 

Avaholic03

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Maybe I'm not reading the same article as you.

"If the steps taken by Hutter and Thiel can be refined, simplified, and made less risky, they could become a viable protocol for thousands of other people with AIDS"

That's a really big IF. Then you have to find bone marrow donors for the millions of people with AIDS. And find someone to pay the staggering cost (since most people with AIDS, especially in Africa, can't afford current treatment let alone a more expensive treatment).

The article goes on to say how it'll be DECADES until this is a viable cure. Until then only the sickest and richest AIDS victims have any shot of a cure. Whoop-de-fucking-do.
 

TheNumber1Zero

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Stalk3rchief said:
TheNumber1Zero said:
Proteus214 said:
It is possible to develop a better cure, but most American medical research is geared toward more profitable enterprises...such as making women's boobs bigger.
sorry man,the japanese already got that covered,and naturally too.

It's called the F-cup cookie.

OT: I think a good cure for AIDS is to try not to have random sex with random people,but obviously that was deemed impossible years ago.
lol.
Yeah, but there are still the kids that are stuck being born with it, or from people that had sex with someone who lied to them about it.
*shrug*
It's not always reckless sex.
In a way it is

kids born with it: that would mean the parents might of had it,correct?how would they of got it,hmmm?

Lying partners: for them to of had it,they must of done what?hmmm?

regardless of how long the connections are,more often than not it will lead back to reckless sex.besides,while not all of it is caused that way,a fairly sized portion is.And not all cures work 100% of the time,like my crazed witch doctor style one.
 

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One positive result is not a cure, even if expenses were not a problem. Plus, I see this as more of a side effect. Let's say you have chronic hepatitis C and hepatic non metastatic cancer and you get a liver transplant... wow, I just cured hep C on a gaming forum. Oh wait, maybe I cured hepatic cancer. Damn, big dillema. You my friend are propagator of this:


 

Stalk3rchief

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Nincompoop said:
Stalk3rchief said:
wewontdie11 said:
You missed the disease fad for this one man. Nobody cares about HIV anymore, it's all about the Swine Flu!
lol
More people have been killed by the normal flu, no, the normal flu SHOT, compared to the swine flu.
Heh.
I always thought that was a fun fact.
Swine flu is silly.
Well. The 'dangerous' thing about this flu is that it spreads rapidly, making no one safe. Even though it isn't a very violent flu, it's a flu nevertheless. Old people, babies or people who don't have great health could get serious complications if infected by a flu, and possibly die. So, even if this flu isn't so dangerous, it spreads so far and widely that people who deliberately avoid infection of flus, might get infected.

Btw, I heard that the flu has mutated to a less lethal form, so it WAS somewhat dangerous, but has turned more user-friendly, so to speak.

Source; Pieces of information gather from hearing parts of television, radio and converstations.
Credibility; Not so good, but what I said sounds rational, but do research for yourself before taking this for granted.
Meh, I'll take your word for. Your logic makes sense.
I know the Flu is easy to spread, I'm just sick of the hype, that's all.
That's why I hate the media.
The day Aids was cured, so to speak, the news barely showed anything about it, they talked more about that porn star who was running for governor of some state, and then this swine flu over hype started.
-_-
The important facts are always drowned out by 'money making' bullshit.
 

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Avaholic03 said:
Maybe I'm not reading the same article as you.

"If the steps taken by Hutter and Thiel can be refined, simplified, and made less risky, they could become a viable protocol for thousands of other people with AIDS"

That's a really big IF. Then you have to find bone marrow donors for the millions of people with AIDS. And find someone to pay the staggering cost (since most people with AIDS, especially in Africa, can't afford current treatment let alone a more expensive treatment).

The article goes on to say how it'll be DECADES until this is a viable cure. Until then only the sickest and richest AIDS victims have any shot of a cure. Whoop-de-fucking-do.
Hey man, every journey begins with but a single step.
The guys who did this deserve more credit than hey've gotten, at least it's something