I blew up the station. But I think it really depends on your character. If you played Shepard as a total dick then save the station. But if you play him as the defender of all that is good then you should destroy it.
Poll: Mass Effect 2 - decision help (spoilers)
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First: Wouldn't it be more satisfying for you to think it over and come to a decision on your own? Just from a roleplaying perspective.
The Illusive Man has humanity's best interest in mind, but humanity's best interest according to him is actually damaging to humanity's political relationship with the other species. He's willing to cross boundaries that others wouldn't, and willing to sacrifice much to this cause [footnote]See: Paul Grayson in the novels Ascension and Retribution[/footnote]. I don't think you need to worry about the Illusive Man turning the base against Shepard, but I have no doubt he would also use it to further human dominance.
On the other hand, the station would no doubt be a great asset to use against the Reapers. By studying the base and perhaps being able to use it, the resistance could gain an advantage where before they have only disadvantages. Bear in mind, though, other attempts to study Reaper technology [footnote]remember the Cerberus team from the disabled Reaper?[/footnote]. Also remember the history of the station and the atrocities that have come from it.
Weigh the facts and decide for yourself.
I've had 3 different playthroughs. One a Paragon who destroyed the station because it is an abomination. One a Renegade who who saved the station to both help destroy the Reapers and secure the rise of humanity. Another a Paragon who saved the station begrudgingly, knowing it was an abomination but also realizing every possible advantage must be capitalized.
The Illusive Man has humanity's best interest in mind, but humanity's best interest according to him is actually damaging to humanity's political relationship with the other species. He's willing to cross boundaries that others wouldn't, and willing to sacrifice much to this cause [footnote]See: Paul Grayson in the novels Ascension and Retribution[/footnote]. I don't think you need to worry about the Illusive Man turning the base against Shepard, but I have no doubt he would also use it to further human dominance.
On the other hand, the station would no doubt be a great asset to use against the Reapers. By studying the base and perhaps being able to use it, the resistance could gain an advantage where before they have only disadvantages. Bear in mind, though, other attempts to study Reaper technology [footnote]remember the Cerberus team from the disabled Reaper?[/footnote]. Also remember the history of the station and the atrocities that have come from it.
Weigh the facts and decide for yourself.
I've had 3 different playthroughs. One a Paragon who destroyed the station because it is an abomination. One a Renegade who who saved the station to both help destroy the Reapers and secure the rise of humanity. Another a Paragon who saved the station begrudgingly, knowing it was an abomination but also realizing every possible advantage must be capitalized.
Basically this. Amnestic says it well as always.Amnestic said:
The Illusive Man's expression in youtube renegade side video's tends to cement that decision. Really, go watch it now. You'll see.
I destroyed it. and Miranda was with me. she pretty much told the illusive man to shove it... then died... still it was quite a fulfilling moment in the few seconds her life lasted thereafter
1. Blow that shit up.Chunko said:
2. To save Mordin, when you save your crewmates send him back with them, if he's loyal he'll survive, he has an odd habit of dying otherwise.
huge station with loads of tech on it that could change the course of human history ... yeah you know what, this means that it has 0 impact in the next game you know. think about it
its a huge thing to keep or destroy it, it seems like it anyway, cept that theres people picking either side and you have to start of the next game pretty much equal, meaning it has VERY LITTLE impact.
So i am guessing, that whatever you do, it gets destroyed very quickly in the next game OR we never see it at all, its an endgame decision in the middle of a trilogy, it doesnt matter
its a huge thing to keep or destroy it, it seems like it anyway, cept that theres people picking either side and you have to start of the next game pretty much equal, meaning it has VERY LITTLE impact.
So i am guessing, that whatever you do, it gets destroyed very quickly in the next game OR we never see it at all, its an endgame decision in the middle of a trilogy, it doesnt matter
Also, I'm assuming Mordin dies fighting with the larger group while you take down the human Reaper.
In order to keep everyone alive, you should do the following:
-Have the ship fully upgraded (except fuel cells, scanning upgrades, and the med-bay upgrade)
-Have all party members loyal
-Have Garrus, Miranda, or Jacob lead the other teams in the Collector base (this applies to both time the teams split up)
-Have Tali, Legion, Kasumi, or Mordin go through the vents
-Have Samara or Jack create the biotic field
-Have either Tali or Mordin escort the crew back to the Normandy (or a non-loyal team member if you weren't able to get that person's loyalty for some reason, but then both Tali and Mordin will have to accompany you to the final fight)
-Whoever is left out of Tali and Mordin has to come with you to the final fight. I prefer Mordin's skills (though I do like Tali better as a character). His Incinerate is excellent against armor (including the human Reaper and Harbinger) and biotic barriers.
In order to keep everyone alive, you should do the following:
-Have the ship fully upgraded (except fuel cells, scanning upgrades, and the med-bay upgrade)
-Have all party members loyal
-Have Garrus, Miranda, or Jacob lead the other teams in the Collector base (this applies to both time the teams split up)
-Have Tali, Legion, Kasumi, or Mordin go through the vents
-Have Samara or Jack create the biotic field
-Have either Tali or Mordin escort the crew back to the Normandy (or a non-loyal team member if you weren't able to get that person's loyalty for some reason, but then both Tali and Mordin will have to accompany you to the final fight)
-Whoever is left out of Tali and Mordin has to come with you to the final fight. I prefer Mordin's skills (though I do like Tali better as a character). His Incinerate is excellent against armor (including the human Reaper and Harbinger) and biotic barriers.
The Illusive man simply can't be trusted, Cerberus as a whole can't be trusted. You get that impression from the game and it is further enhanced if you read the books. I haven't read Retribution yet but from what I gather of it, the Illusive Man is messing around with Reaper technology, technology he does not understand and his ignorance is potentially endangering the entire galaxy.
Plus, we all know he would not use it merely to fend of the Reapers. His goal is the dominance of the human race, and this is the perfect tool for it. And as Amnestic said, when was the last time Cerberus had a project actually go right (besides Shepard and EDI)? Simply put: Incinerate the bloody thing!
Plus, we all know he would not use it merely to fend of the Reapers. His goal is the dominance of the human race, and this is the perfect tool for it. And as Amnestic said, when was the last time Cerberus had a project actually go right (besides Shepard and EDI)? Simply put: Incinerate the bloody thing!
reasons are nothing. if you dont destroy it your squad members will automatically hate you and you'll be branded as a dick even with maximum paragon ...
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If even Miranda, who was a true believe in the Cerberus cause, thinks you made the wrong call if you don't blow it up, then perhaps you should rethink your strategy.phoenix352 said:
Me, I made the choice to blow it up. I trust Cerberus to do what it thinks is best. Sure, the tech might help fight the reapers, but truth be told I don't think it would. Their advantage has always been that they know precisely what sort of technology their targets will be able to bring to a fight. What's more, once the organic victory is assured, Cerberus would simply exploit their findings to subjugate the rest of the Galaxy. I don't think I'd like to fight bitterly with every weapon and trick at my disposal to save the galaxy only to see a madman burn it down behind me.
One thing I find interesting about the Illusive Man, if you listen to his dialog carefully, is that he never refers to himself as Human. It's always 'You and every other human' or 'You and the rest of humanity'.
Any way that's neither here nor there. If you keep the base and use it then you're no better than the Geth who followed Saren. You're better than the heretics, aren't you?
Any way that's neither here nor there. If you keep the base and use it then you're no better than the Geth who followed Saren. You're better than the heretics, aren't you?
I blew that shit up. The ending cutscene with Shepard and the Illusive Man is also worth it. Maybe you should reload one of your games, and do all the loyalty missions and upgrade your ship so Mordin lives. Also choose the right characters to lead, open the vent, etc.
It wouldn't surprise me if the illusive man was actually an AI/droid of some kind. He's clearly very extensively modded (his eyes) Plus, the level of control he's able to exert, and his ability to have 'eyes everywhere' seems a little superhuman to me. Basically, I think Cerberus would be too hard to run in his style if he was just a vanilla human - and AIs can be programmed to doggedly pursue certain goals (like human advancement and security) in an utterly devoted fashion, incorruptible, which is what a cerberus should be.Kortney said: