Poll: Mass Effect 3 DLC - UPDATE!

[Syzygy23]

so you're SOL, Europe.

Yes, Europe DOES reside in the SOL star system. Why would you bring that u- Oh. Shit outta luck, I get it.

Is anyone else suddenly extremely worried that we live in a star system whose name is an abbreviation for "Shit Outta Luck"?

 

[Rad Party God]

You think this is a big scam?, I'm surprised that nobody has mentioned this [http://www.amazon.com/Skylanders-Spyros-Adventure-Starter-Nintendo-Wii/dp/B004VQENY8] yet and that's coming from a company even more evil-ish than EA.

Seriously though, I don't care what they do to cash cow their "fans" as long as it's not essential for the story, heck, I'm surprised that Miscrosoft hasn't come up with something similar for selling toys of Halo and Gears of War, belive me, those things sell like hot cakes.

I still stand firm on my decision to boycott EA.

 

[salinv]

Okay, the one thing I don't know if anyone here understands is that the DLC (from what I have heard) is multiplayer only, like a skin or something. Sort of like the items you could get for your armor by using codes off of Dr. Pepper bottles with ME2. It had no tangible part to the plot whatsoever, and the items weren't even all that good, easily overshadowed by normal content items. Technically they were DLC, but sort of in the same way you could call DLC an expansion pack.

edit: spell check..

 

[salinv]

Really don't get what everyone is getting worked up about, already been announced this is going to multiplayer DLC...no effect on the single player

I'd say that's even worse... if the stuff adds more than cosmetics, suddenly it becomes a pay-to-win thing for the multiplayer.

Isn't the multiplayer coop? As in, not competing directly with other people?

 

[salinv]

Not buying it isn't going to make me not hate that it is a thing which exists related to something I do want to buy.

One thing I've never really understood about that argument.. Does this mean that when you buy a game you expect every single spinoff novel that has anything to do with the story? I mean, that is related to content you are buying, and hell, likely has more canonical impact than most DLC, yet I doubt you really care about it all that much.

I mean no offence by this, but I don't see where everyone feels so entitled to content.

 

[PortalThinker113]

Okay, calm, everyone, calm. I am pretty sure that this DLC is just extra skins, weapons, and such for multiplayer- the art book DLC pretty much confirmed that. If you don't care about that, then just don't buy the figurines. They are not holding anything of true value to the game back from you. You will have a lovely time in Mass Effect 3 and get the full experience regardless of some figurine.

And the figurines are physical things. The DLC will just be a little code on the bottom or something. You're buying a figurine that just so happens to come with DLC. Woo. If you don't want that, don't bother.

Just. Calm. Please. So much Mass Effect 3 whining... Can this game just come out already so it can stop?

 

[The Pinray]

Well, I don't care much for weapons and armor but if by "characters" they mean squadmates then that is a bit upsetting. Nothing to lose my lunch over, it is just a game. Still, upsetting.

This is the close to a Sci-Fi trilogy, not some McDonald's toy movie tie-in promo.

 

[natster43]

I really doubt that they are going to restrict characters to DLC which you have to pay 17 dollars to get.

 

[RESURRECTION21]

you know this kind of stuff makes me wish they would let us just buy all the dlc for games on a fucking disc so we could keep it

 

[Bat Vader]

I do like collecting collectibles so I will most likely buy the figurines. I won't be playing the multiplayer though so I won't have much use for the free DLC.

 

[Xpheyel]

Not buying it isn't going to make me not hate that it is a thing which exists related to something I do want to buy.

One thing I've never really understood about that argument.. Does this mean that when you buy a game you expect every single spinoff novel that has anything to do with the story? I mean, that is related to content you are buying, and hell, likely has more canonical impact than most DLC, yet I doubt you really care about it all that much.

I mean no offence by this, but I don't see where everyone feels so entitled to content.

A novelization, even if paired with launch, is about as far as you can possibly get from DLC and anything I referenced in the post you prune quoted. So no, not unless you need to buy the novel to unlock, make sense of, or access something in the game.

Well, for clothes DLCs because they're almost always a raw deal and I know it. That's just about all that takes.

For launch DLC, take the cost of all the DLC. Add it to the price of the game. Why don't they ask for that price and not attempt all these contortions? Answer is, because then people would have to ask what makes their game worth $70-$80 compared with potentially better games that retail for $60. So, instead of charging what they want, they strip bits out, declare them "Non Essential". If it's "Extra" they don't have to have a good answer as to why the total cost of the game at launch is going up. It isn't! Those parts are extra parts!

So you end up with games like DA2 selling you characters for $7 and then recycling dungeons for $60. Even if, with it's DLC, it was only as good as some other $60 game, it would be a worse value by $7. It just boils down to charging more for the same, or charging the same for less. Neither one is calculated with my interests in mind.

 

[salinv]

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I see what your saying, and if you look at it in the way that the producers and developers are withholding material with the sole intent of marking up the price, then it makes perfect sense to be pissed off at it. Games are expensive enough as it is (though, I could argue that their relative price has been going down over the years...). However, I've always looked at it in a slightly different light: all content that is released but not as part of the actual game could basically have never been made (or announced to have existed) and no one would have cared that the content didn't exist.

The moment such content is announced prior to the games release (or even after at times), people get in an uproar over its mere existence separate from the game. While this is understandable in my eyes in some, or even most, cases, it instills a sense of entitlement from the gaming community as a whole to me. I honestly feel it is the developers game they are making, and when I buy it I accept that the game is whole as purchased, and DLC are solely additions added on top of the package to make it more than it was.

When they withhold content that should have been there, and was released as an obvious cash grab, then yeah it pisses me off. And when its the producer making that decision, the entire state of mind comes crashing down.

OT: As for the figurines in question, seeing as how Bioware/EA hasn't been advertising these figurines all that much and that this just doesn't feel like Bioware, I get the feeling that the DLC will be very low key. Cash grab? Maybe, but if what I just guessed is true, I doubt that EA will make very much money on it through their licensing fees. I at least hope this is EA's decision and not Bioware's. I certainly wont be buying these though.

 

[ResonanceSD]

I was worried about the way ME3 would turn out and I have to say that this sort of thing does not increase my confidence. I might have to move ME3 off my Buy at Launch list and on to my Wait for Price Drop list.

Ea and bioware still get the money and another PC to spy on with origin

 

[Stormz]

"Collect all 8 for the full experience!"

Okay it's final. I am NOT buying Mass Effect 3. Fuck Bioware.

you do realize that it's not bioware that's doing this right? It's EA, you know the people that handle the financing, PR (good or bad) advertisement and promotions. If you want to be pissed at someone be pissed at them it's EA that does this, Bioware are only the devs.

I find that hard to believe. Bioware is still involved whether people are willing to admit it or not. They could..you know...stick up for their fans if they really gave a shit, but they don't. Ea would never shut down a game like ME3 even if Bioware said enough was enough. There would be massive riot if they did. So yes, it is Bioware's fault.

Considering the massive praise this game is still getting from people even though it's bright as day that they're exploiting the fanbase. I'm fully convinced if a Bioware employee were to personally walk into their house. Shoot their dog and shit in their cereal, they'd still love em for it.

 

[TheOneBearded]

How are we certain that they aren't talking about DLC in the multiplayer sense - not to the single player? I'm not going to even touch the multiplayer because I like Mass Effect as a single player story, so if they want to do this to the multiplayer DLC, then fine by me. If they do this for the single player DLC also, they better make them available for consoles and PC also.

Multiplayer DLC? What? I don't think their MP offering is good enough to warrant people paying for unlockables that only affect MP.

Hey, I don't give a rat's ass about MP in any game let alone a story-driven, single player only game like ME.

 

[LT Cannibal 68]

"Collect all 8 for the full experience!"

Okay it's final. I am NOT buying Mass Effect 3. Fuck Bioware.

you do realize that it's not bioware that's doing this right? It's EA, you know the people that handle the financing, PR (good or bad) advertisement and promotions. If you want to be pissed at someone be pissed at them it's EA that does this, Bioware are only the devs.

I find that hard to believe. Bioware is still involved whether people are willing to admit it or not. They could..you know...stick up for their fans if they really gave a shit, but they don't. Ea would never shut down a game like ME3 even if Bioware said enough was enough. There would be massive riot if they did. So yes, it is Bioware's fault.

Considering the massive praise this game is still getting from people even though it's bright as day that they're exploiting the fanbase. I'm fully convinced if a Bioware employee were to personally walk into their house. Shoot their dog and shit in their cereal, they'd still love em for it.

i don't think you understood me the first time dude EA are the PUBLISHERS everything about getting the brand out there and PAYING for the game is up to them, bioware only DEVELOPS the project. don't you find it a little dumb to think that a bunch of DEVS would come up with this stuff and not the pr reps and the ad reps? let's say for example that some corporate asshole were to come up with the most retarded ad campaign out there that would piss off people left and right, would it be the people who designed the vehicles fault? NO! you don't attack the workers you attack the people that get the product out there for a brand under their banner. see what i'm getting at here? Blame EA they're the ones that made bioware rush out DA2 and they're the one's whoring out the mass effect franchise, even though i'm getting the figures i don't really see a point in not buying a game that will most definitely be awesome because the pr and publishing company are assholes, kinda seems dumb don't you think?

 

[ecoho]

"Collect all 8 for the full experience!"

Okay it's final. I am NOT buying Mass Effect 3. Fuck Bioware.

Ok. Why? Not being all fanboy protective, but DLC espcially in something like mass effect or fallout doesn't take anything away from the core game. If you dont' want the figures, that's cool. Hell i'm not even saying to go buy the game for 60 bucks. Wait til it's like 20. But is it the figures that makes you not want to buy the game?

It certainly pisses me off when the DLC is essential to the plot, which ME2 did and 3 will almost certainly do as well. Granted this isn't the only reason I'm not buying it, and if I do it will be like you said, when it's cheap as hell.

More to the topic though. It does if it's the only way to get it, and 8 pieces of DLC? I bet you half of that is armour and weapons that should have been in the game to begin with. Me2 had barely any weapons or armour, most of them were DLC.

I've had enough of Biowares antics. I'm not asking you to agree with me or anything, hell you can think I'm a raging lunatic (I do rant a lot) but really. I've trusted Bioware for a long time and I'm not taking it anymore.

Which ME2 DLC was vital to the plot? '

I remember using the Cain once in ME2, on the final boss.

And missing.

I was like, AWESOME... FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Lair of the Shadow Broker and Arrival have important plot details that you won't see in the actual game.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

um the reason you had to buy those is because they made them after the game came out as extra content to tide people over till mass effect 3. Hell ill admit arivil should have been free or heavily discounted but shadow broker was worth a hell of alot more then what they asked for it.
now about the figures....you do know that nothing you get through this is actually going to be good right? there will ether be a way to just buy the dlc(very likely) or there will be better versions of the same weapon or character in the game already its how this works.

 

[Stormz]

"Collect all 8 for the full experience!"

Okay it's final. I am NOT buying Mass Effect 3. Fuck Bioware.

you do realize that it's not bioware that's doing this right? It's EA, you know the people that handle the financing, PR (good or bad) advertisement and promotions. If you want to be pissed at someone be pissed at them it's EA that does this, Bioware are only the devs.

I find that hard to believe. Bioware is still involved whether people are willing to admit it or not. They could..you know...stick up for their fans if they really gave a shit, but they don't. Ea would never shut down a game like ME3 even if Bioware said enough was enough. There would be massive riot if they did. So yes, it is Bioware's fault.

Considering the massive praise this game is still getting from people even though it's bright as day that they're exploiting the fanbase. I'm fully convinced if a Bioware employee were to personally walk into their house. Shoot their dog and shit in their cereal, they'd still love em for it.

i don't think you understood me the first time dude EA are the PUBLISHERS everything about getting the brand out there and PAYING for the game is up to them, bioware only DEVELOPS the project. don't you find it a little dumb to think that a bunch of DEVS would come up with this stuff and not the pr reps and the ad reps? let's say for example that some corporate asshole were to come up with the most retarded ad campaign out there that would piss off people left and right, would it be the people who designed the vehicles fault? NO! you don't attack the workers you attack the people that get the product out there for a brand under their banner. see what i'm getting at here? Blame EA they're the ones that made bioware rush out DA2 and they're the one's whoring out the mass effect franchise, even though i'm getting the figures i don't really see a point in not buying a game that will most definitely be awesome because the pr and publishing company are assholes, kinda seems dumb don't you think?

I'm fully aware EA is at fault, but again, so is Bioware and I won't change my thoughts on that. I'll gladly deprive myself of a game if the developers and Publishers are doing something I don't agree with. One lost sale isn't much when you consider the massive amounts of people still willing to buy it (And be exploited) but I can at least stand up for myself. You want to buy it, more power to you, but I am not.

 

[Comic Sans]

God, gamers are so self righteous. How is this some sort of affront? You get weapons and skins for multiplayer. OOOO HOW HORRIBLE. SHAME ON THAT BUSINESS FOR TRYING TO MAKE MONEY. BOYCOTT THEM FOR OFFERING A BONUS THAT REALLY DOESN'T AFFECT THE GAME FOR BUYING A RELATED TIE IN PRODUCT THAT I DON'T NEED. I AM GOING TO ACT LIKE BIOWARE IS THE DEVIL BECAUSE THEY MADE A BAD GAME LAST YEAR SO ITS COOL TO HATE THEM NOW.

Seriously, what's the deal lately? Gamers feel that everything a business does is evil simply because it's EA/Activision/Ubisoft/etc., and it seems that the current devs it's cool to hate on is Bioware. Everyone is so damn fickle. I feel bad for developers/publishers trying to please people these days.