This post is incredibly funny to me. I don't know why. Maybe it's because I imagine someone saying this in a "hammy" way and that image is hilarious.Riddle78 said:Yes,I will. What Origin does is simply what Steam does,except with no opt-out option. And I'll play ME3 into the ground. I WILL get the Quarians to make nice with the Geth. I WILL get the Krogan and Rachni to work together. I WILL kill the Illusive Man. I WILL kill every single Batarian assfuck in the galaxy!
Actually...I'll try to get them to work with us. If that doesn't work,THEN I'll pull another Arrival on them. Until no Batarians remain. Fucking slavers. I don't care if it's an integral element of your caste society! Live free or die running!
well, the wraith of the banhammer has not befallen any of the crackers yet, so it looks like we're in the clearJochemDude said:It's not like it's my opinion. It's the opinion of the Escapist and they have the banhammer, not me.kayisking said:If he pays for it, then why shouldn't he be able to do that! I hate pirates more then I hate Orgin but I don't see what's wrong with downloading the crack to a game you bought!JochemDude said:There are more then enough ways in which you can isolate Origin from your files, So I'm still going to get it.
Edit it before the mods hunt your ass down.Lucyfer86 said:Well if origin is required, i will buy it but gonna download crack for it. Origin is a big nono for me.
WellSL33TBL1ND said:I wasn't going to buy it in the first place. So...
EDIT: Wait, it appears they've changed it so it isn't evil. I still don't want to clog my computer with more third party software though.AngryPants said:Can't care less for Origin - just another D2D service being maintained by a major publisher, so what?
The problem was that by installing Origin you were agreeing to let EA monitor everything you did on your computer and then sell that info.AngryPants said:WellSL33TBL1ND said:I wasn't going to buy it in the first place. So...
EDIT: Wait, it appears they've changed it so it isn't evil. I still don't want to clog my computer with more third party software though.AngryPants said:Can't care less for Origin - just another D2D service being maintained by a major publisher, so what?Evil or not evil, what is not intrusive on PC nowadays? (with exception of pirated software, that always delivers smoother player experience... which is supposed to be nonsensical) Every piece of DRM is basically a virus, that one have not choice but to install opening potential security breaches all over the place... This world is way too imperfect to be a PC gamer nowadays it seems
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That's a big were.SL33TBL1ND said:The problem was that by installing Origin you WERE agreeing to let EA monitor everything you did on your computer and then sell that info.AngryPants said:WellSL33TBL1ND said:I wasn't going to buy it in the first place. So...
EDIT: Wait, it appears they've changed it so it isn't evil. I still don't want to clog my computer with more third party software though.AngryPants said:Can't care less for Origin - just another D2D service being maintained by a major publisher, so what?Evil or not evil, what is not intrusive on PC nowadays? (with exception of pirated software, that always delivers smoother player experience... which is supposed to be nonsensical) Every piece of DRM is basically a virus, that one have not choice but to install opening potential security breaches all over the place... This world is way too imperfect to be a PC gamer nowadays it seems
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Same for me, I cant believe how arrogant EA can be in peddling their ill designed system :/Lucyfer86 said:Well if origin is required, i will buy it but gonna download crack for it. Origin is a big nono for me.
That's why I reiterated my opinion to "Don't want any more 3rd party software clogging shit up".Awexsome said:That's a big were.SL33TBL1ND said:The problem was that by installing Origin you WERE agreeing to let EA monitor everything you did on your computer and then sell that info.AngryPants said:WellSL33TBL1ND said:I wasn't going to buy it in the first place. So...
EDIT: Wait, it appears they've changed it so it isn't evil. I still don't want to clog my computer with more third party software though.AngryPants said:Can't care less for Origin - just another D2D service being maintained by a major publisher, so what?Evil or not evil, what is not intrusive on PC nowadays? (with exception of pirated software, that always delivers smoother player experience... which is supposed to be nonsensical) Every piece of DRM is basically a virus, that one have not choice but to install opening potential security breaches all over the place... This world is way too imperfect to be a PC gamer nowadays it seems
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Now they're the same as everything else. For all the talk about how publishers don't listen to their customers they sure don't get much credit for actually doing so.
Ah, yes, that would be a problem then. Sorry that you end up in the fairly small minority of people that this affects. Still, unless they do always-on DRM, right now you don't actually need Origin open to run any games (the BF3 beta needed it, but that's due to the whole Battlelog architecture, not to any sort of DRM scheme).008Zulu said:Steam like to auto-update games and such, on paper its a fine idea but I have something of a limited monthly download limit and I don't want Steam chewing all that up.Jaime_Wolf said:I guess the question then becomes how ME3 is offered through Origin. In actuality, most games on Origin right now are MUCH friendlier about being run without being logged in than games on Steam tend to be. You don't need to even bother with putting it in offline mode: don't even bother starting Origin and just run the game.
I suppose there's always the possibility that they have some sort of always-online DRM scheme for ME3 through Origin though. That's a somewhat different issue, though one that I think people tend to get particularly unreasonable about.
May I ask why you don't leave Steam on? In terms of system resources, it's proportionally tiny compared to a modern game, so there isn't really any good performance reason to turn it off (especially not to just put it in offline mode). Are you afraid Steam is reading your emails or something? If you're approaching this level of paranoia, there's absolutely no reason that Steam couldn't mine the information you suspect while in offline mode or disconnected from the internet and simply send that information as soon as you do connect. In fact, if Valve wanted to snoop around on your computer, there's absolutely no reason they couldn't install something a bit more covert alongside Steam that wasn't quite so simple to detect or turn off.
ME2 at first had always on DRM, in that the DLC required an always on connection. But since you got free day 1 DLC with it... However that was patched out.
There will be always on DRM just like they did in ME2, but it'll be patched out in a month or so after release.Jaime_Wolf said:Ah, yes, that would be a problem then. Sorry that you end up in the fairly small minority of people that this affects. Still, unless they do always-on DRM, right now you don't actually need Origin open to run any games (the BF3 beta needed it, but that's due to the whole Battlelog architecture, not to any sort of DRM scheme).
I always liked the saying "Don't run, you'll just die tired."Riddle78 said:Yes,I will. What Origin does is simply what Steam does,except with no opt-out option. And I'll play ME3 into the ground. I WILL get the Quarians to make nice with the Geth. I WILL get the Krogan and Rachni to work together. I WILL kill the Illusive Man. I WILL kill every single Batarian assfuck in the galaxy!
Actually...I'll try to get them to work with us. If that doesn't work,THEN I'll pull another Arrival on them. Until no Batarians remain. Fucking slavers. I don't care if it's an integral element of your caste society! Live free or die running!
I mean I wonder if there will be always-on DRM through Origin. If it's just through the game, that's not really a problem (the data involved would be absolutely miniscule). The main problem is Origin auto-patching, so, as long as the DRM isn't through Origin somehow, you should be able to run the game without even opening Origin like you can with all of the games on it right now, handily avoiding your problem.008Zulu said:There will be always on DRM just like they did in ME2, but it'll be patched out in a month or so after release.Jaime_Wolf said:Ah, yes, that would be a problem then. Sorry that you end up in the fairly small minority of people that this affects. Still, unless they do always-on DRM, right now you don't actually need Origin open to run any games (the BF3 beta needed it, but that's due to the whole Battlelog architecture, not to any sort of DRM scheme).
I wonder if configuring your firewall to block Origin would prevent the (ME2) game from running.