Poll: Mass Effect 3: Yay or Nay?

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008Zulu_v1legacy

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animehermit said:
Every EULA is like that, they are all left fairly ambiguous. Hell the Blizzard EULA for WoW says that they can ban you for any reason they see fit, regardless of whether or not you're a paying customer. Steam's and Sony's have clauses that (try) to protect them from being sued by customers. I honestly don't know what the big deal is with all the hate EA gets, yeah they're advertising is crap and their customer service needs some work, but honestly they don't actively rip people off. Hell, judging by the reaction of most of the users here, EA might as well be a serial puppy rapist.
You can opt out of Sony's anti-litigation clause by sending them a letter. Not sure about Steam's tho.

The hate has been building for close to a decade now, they have taken popular and well respected franchises and have effectively destroyed what built the base for those particular titles. The fans have pleaded and begged not to do this and EA have constantly ignored them.
 

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latenightapplepie said:
Where's the 'playing it on a console so I don't need to concern myself with Origin' option?
As evidence by the poll question concerning Origin, this thread is aimed directly at the PC version of Mass Effect 3.
 

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I mean I wonder if there will be always-on DRM through Origin. If it's just through the game, that's not really a problem (the data involved would be absolutely miniscule). The main problem is Origin auto-patching, so, as long as the DRM isn't through Origin somehow, you should be able to run the game without even opening Origin like you can with all of the games on it right now, handily avoiding your problem.

I'd be somewhat surprised if the DRM were through Origin actually, since it's a multi-platform release.

Edit: From what I'm seeing, the DRM can't be through Origin, since the game will be offered through other services. The only one that looks to be Origin-specific is the Deluxe edition.
Well the deluxe edition doesn't have much going for it; a tin dog and an ingame hoodie for Shep to wear seems to be the highlight of the pack. Not a lot of incentive, or compensation for that matter, to allow virtually unrestricted access to your computer's contents.
...I thought the issue was limited internet usage?

Origin doesn't have free and unrestricted access more than any other program. If you suspect that they're up to something shady, I'm just curious why you don't suspect that all programs you use are up to something shady. I'm not really a tremendous fan of Origin, but I don't think it's even slightly reasonable to assume that they're spying on you (What would they gain? How would they mine such a vast and varied data set? The things that a user wants to keep private are precisely the things that a company like EA has no reason to care about whatsoever.).
 

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Lucyfer86 said:
Well if origin is required, i will buy it but gonna download crack for it. Origin is a big nono for me.
Same for me, I cant believe how arrogant EA can be in peddling their ill designed system :/
Releasing their biggest titles (Battlefield 3, Mass Effect 3, The Old Republic) exclusively on Origin in an attempt to use those built-in demographics, problem is I don't like being funnelled to an inferior product!
Having an alternative I'll choose the alternative before Origin, at least until EA gets its shit together.
ummmm just wanted to point out you dont need Origin to play The Old Republic just need it to digitally download it you can always buy the physical disc.
 

008Zulu_v1legacy

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Jaime_Wolf said:
...I thought the issue was limited internet usage?

Origin doesn't have free and unrestricted access more than any other program. If you suspect that they're up to something shady, I'm just curious why you don't suspect that all programs you use are up to something shady. I'm not really a tremendous fan of Origin, but I don't think it's even slightly reasonable to assume that they're spying on you (What would they gain? How would they mine such a vast and varied data set? The things that a user wants to keep private are precisely the things that a company like EA has no reason to care about whatsoever.).
It is, but I was noting that if the deluxe version is the only one that requires Origin, that there isn't enough incentive to get the deluxe.

I do suspect anything and everything I install on my computer, my sense of paranoia has saved me more than a few headaches in the past.
 

008Zulu_v1legacy

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animehermit said:
http://eacom.s3.amazonaws.com/EULA_Mass+Effect+3_en_10.5.11+FINAL.pdf

Point 1b. If I'm reading ti correctly.

EDIT: You need an internet connection and you need to download the origin client to verify your game, or whenever you install it on a new system. Doesn't appear to need to be on all the time, and certainly not after you put in the code I think.
Hmmm. If that is the case then there may be a workaround to it after all. Will have to see closer to the release date.
 

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A little behind on the events of Mass Effect 3, but having just recently found out that I will be required to use Origin to play it on my PC has settled the question as to whether I buy the game or not. A big fan of BioWare and Mass Effect 1 and 2, but I will not be playing Mass Effect 3 until Origin is no longer a requirement to play.

EA does not have the right to tell me when and where I can play a game I paid $60 dollars for. If I shell out that amount of money for something, I should own it, and not be buying a license they can revoke at any time of their choosing for any reason. I dont care if anyone else agrees with me or bothers to take a stand, but I will take a stand against bad practices and a company that gleefully fucks over its' consumers.

P.S. same goes for Ubisoft and their shitty practices.
 

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Llasnad said:
A little behind on the events of Mass Effect 3, but having just recently found out that I will be required to use Origin to play it on my PC has settled the question as to whether I buy the game or not. A big fan of BioWare and Mass Effect 1 and 2, but I will not be playing Mass Effect 3 until Origin is no longer a requirement to play.

EA does not have the right to tell me when and where I can play a game I paid $60 dollars for. If I shell out that amount of money for something, I should own it, and not be buying a license they can revoke at any time of their choosing for any reason. I dont care if anyone else agrees with me or bothers to take a stand, but I will take a stand against bad practices and a company that gleefully fucks over its' consumers.

P.S. same goes for Ubisoft and their shitty practices.

Same here mater hanging to my one till EA makes Origin a lot less shit
 

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Fortunately I am a console gamer, but if I where a PC gamer I would be passing on ME3 soley because of Origin. It's not even that I really care much about my privacy, it's more principled then that. It's a pity really, cause ME3 is one hell of a game. Ending was a bit ambiguous though.