That sounds like High School. Get out of High School and that pretty much goes away.SecretTacoNinja post=18.74760.847282 said:
Poll: Materialism
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You realize you're being hypocritical in your very post, right?WhitemageofDOOM post=18.74760.847268 said:
"Humans don't like humans, so therefore I don't like humans!"
College actually -_-runtheplacered post=18.74760.847317 said:
Words cannot describe how much I want to get off the course I'm doing and get away from those fucktards.
The poll is a bit weird. I picked 'Dies anyways' because I don't think it is possible to win at life. In fact, no goals are worth serious pursuit.runtheplacered post=18.74760.847312 said:
That means I am really just waiting around for death, keeping my brain amused and distracted so that I don't get depressed.
Just because I don't believe in any Eternal objective(s) doesn't mean that I can't have fun with some Ephemeral ones. Journey = Reward.
I hate humans because there immoral not because they hate each other. selfish xenophobia tends to involve a lot of favoring of humans after all.runtheplacered post=18.74760.847320 said:
The hypocrisy is in the rolling around in material comforts instead of doing my best to fix what i can.
Correction: People should focus on individuals. Their friends and family, acquaintances.WhitemageofDOOM post=18.74760.847268 said:
In what way?
If by that you mean a strong belief in God means you can be a douchebag in life because Heaven awaits hereafter? The point of life in God is to serve and love one another and enjoy the beauty of creation, not hate or waste.zee666 post=18.74760.847629 said:
Money can't buy me happiness, true, but money can buy me food. Absence of food definitely leads to absence of happiness, so I'd say that the absence of money (or at least the absence of a certain minimal amount) can lead to the absence of happiness.
Still, the purely materialist/consumerist approach isn't conducive to happiness either, given that we're social creatures and need social contact as well as food, shelter, and sweet gaming rigs.
-- Steve
Still, the purely materialist/consumerist approach isn't conducive to happiness either, given that we're social creatures and need social contact as well as food, shelter, and sweet gaming rigs.
-- Steve
Ah, an interesting topic evidently.Anarchemitis post=18.74760.845486 said:
Things are worthless.
It is intellect that is important.
People should focus on people? Perhaps. We should focus on sometihng that will benefit people.
I can't stand when people put so much value on things. "Oh noes, my new car has a tiny invisible scratch on it". Y'know what? WHO CARES? It still works doesn't it? It's just a lump of metal, nothing more. Why did you buy it in the first place if i cost so damn much? It has minor damage, so what. Thoughts are important, intelligence is important, things are not.
If I died with the most toys, it means I had the most toys while I was alive. I like toys so I won, since I had stuff I liked before my demise.
Although the idea of focusing on people would be nice if people were worth the effort. I'll stick with my few good friends and my material posessions.
Although the idea of focusing on people would be nice if people were worth the effort. I'll stick with my few good friends and my material posessions.
As someone living in the First World in fair amounts of comfort with my needs met, I can say I am against materialism. It leads to greed, and greed really throws a flashbang into my party. I am fine with the amount of stuff i have, and feel no real need to own anything more for the sake of owning it.
For, fellow Escapists, perhaps we should explain our personal definitions of materialism before discussing it?
Mine for instance, would be the desire to have things for the sake of having them. For example, having a high end guitar because of it's performance and sound quality to better your playing (which would be more utilitarian) as opposed to having a high end guitar because it's shiny and it'll look really cool in your living room.
For, fellow Escapists, perhaps we should explain our personal definitions of materialism before discussing it?
Mine for instance, would be the desire to have things for the sake of having them. For example, having a high end guitar because of it's performance and sound quality to better your playing (which would be more utilitarian) as opposed to having a high end guitar because it's shiny and it'll look really cool in your living room.
Materialist insofar as it provides comfort; i.e i don't starve to death outside, in the rain and cold. Once the essentials are cared for, then i care about people. In the long run, possessions are transient, emotional connections can lead to people caring for you, and hence mourning you after you're dead. Objects can't do that.
And, in the end, being able to die while happy, to die while looking back on your life and saying "damn I wish I could do that again" is pretty much winning by any definition I can think of. It's open ended, so you're only competing against yourself. You meet your goals in life, you win.galletea post=18.74760.847687 said:
Me? I don't need to be Bill Gates to be happy. But I'll always want money. I'll always want recognition. I'll always want to be better than I was yesterday, richer than I was yesterday. I will never accept my own decay.
I like to be comfortable in life and have nice things. The materialism or consumerism part comes when I buy something that has no purpose to me. I once bought a second MP3 player because it looked cool. There was nothing wrong with my other one, but I just decided to spend $200. No need. I couldn't even fill my first MP3 player, why did I need another one?