Poll: Megaman X in Marvel vs Capcom 3

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Atmos Duality

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X vs Zero

How could they have ignored this possibility? Granted, Zero makes for a MUCH deeper 2D fighter character (because...he's melee and all), but they had Megaman in the first MvC, why not here?

Oh, and nix Chris Roidfield; Leon Kennedy could actually fight compared to that Rob Lyefeld steroid-addict.
 

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I'd prefer Classic Megaman, but hey, if it's X or no Megaman, I'll be more than happy to take X. Now if they make Bullseye his Marvel counterpart, the Capcom AND Marvel nerd in me would squee in delight!

I also love how most of the bitching about characters are about the Marvel half of it, and 80% of the people doing the bitching have never read a comic book in their life. "Who the fuck are Super Skrull and M.O.D.O.K? Why the fuck did they put in She-Hulk? Who cares about X-23?"

-Zen- said:
Whether he makes it in or not is unimportant to me. However, given his popularity, there might be at least a little more variety online should he make the roster. I'm getting tired of seeing so many Zeros, Akumas, and especially Sentinels. I swear, if you want to play a really powerful character, grow some balls and enlist Pheonix.
QUOTED FOR TRUTH! I'm tired of fighting Wesker/Dante/Akuma, only to then fight a Zero/Deadpool/Sentinel team, with an ocassional mix-up between these two combinations.
 
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dathwampeer said:
They need to bolster their ranks with a lot more characters.

What did MVC2 have? Like 64 characters or something?

There's nowhere near enough. That's my biggest complaint with the game.

I'd understand if the character had their own animated ending. But we don't even get that. We get some shitty 2 page faux comic strip. Most of which aren't funny or interesting.

Those 2 things really let me down.

My major annoyances in the missing persons department are Venom, Ken(you cannot have a game with Ryu and Akuma and leave out Ken, it's fucking illegal.), Gambit, Mephisto, Silver surfer, Bison, Dr Strange, Jedah, Apocalypse, Night crawler or Azazel.. Fuckit both.

There's a ton more.

I'll forgive them if DLC is free. Like hell it will be though.
About the 64(56 actually) characters, do you have any idea how many were just basically copies of each other? Or how many were ultimately worthless and added very little, if anything, to the game?

Lets take out the people that had the same animations/fighting styles. We'd remove:

War Machine(uses Iron Man's fighting style/animations/everything)
Ken, Akuma, Dan, Sakura (ALL played just like, or very, very similarly, to Ryu)
Charlie(same fighting style/animations as Guile)

That brings us from 56 to 50.

Now lets remove "fluff" characters, or characters that don't add much to the game, or are just absurd.

Servbot, Roll, Blackheart.

Brings us down to 47.

Now lets get rid of the people that nobody fucking used/were useless.

Thanos, Sabertooth, M. Bison, Marrow, Silver Samurai, Shuma-Gorath(although he's coming in DLC, so maybe he'll be more viable to use this time), Anakaris.

That brings us to 40.

And we remove Cable because he's an overpowered fuck. So we're at 39 now. I could go on by removing people who have similar playstyles, but I think I made my point.

Marvel vs. Capcom 3's roster has 36 characters. All play differently, removed more certain characters that weren't really used in favor of newer, more interesting characters, and balanced the rest out.

So all this bitching about low character roster needs to stop. Most people used about 8 or so characters in the first place. Since they were really the only good ones. MvC 3 does not have that problem.

Yes it sucks that some great characters were left out(Gambit), but there's also the issue of making characters fun to play, and getting Marvel to let you use the characters. Marvel let Capcom have full use of their characters for storyline purposes. Gameplay purposes are another matter entirely.

RowdyRodimus said:
It is funny that even during the SNES era we would get fighting games with 30+ characters on a cartridge but now that they have all the room in the world on DVD'd or Blu discs they start giving us less and less of them every game.

My brother bought MvC 3 and then downloaded MvC 2 and said that, yeah while it is prettier and flashier the roster sucks compared to 2. Damn DLC ruining potentially awesome games just to nickel and dime us. I'd rather them charge upfront for the DLC, making the game more expensive but give us all of the stuff they were going to cut or lock on the disc, but be honest with us and say "here's the other 25-50% of the game we were going to charge you for later"
We get less characters because they're more expensive to make. MvC3 has one of the largest rosters in recent memory.

And the roster is much better compared to 2. It has more quality. I'd take quality over quantity any day. And again, making more characters costs money. And adding that cost with the game would piss many people off, particularly people overseas who pay stupid amounts of money for games already. By releasing them as DLC, they let people who want the characters have them, and those who don't not have to pay money for something they wouldn't want.
 

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Almost cared about the game in general, I just checked the character list...

No Blade, don't care.
 

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Daedalus1942 said:
VGC USpartan VS said:
I figured it was just me who wanted him in this game. I was wrong.Looks like he might just make it to DLC.
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/02/21/x-sitting-pretty-in-mvc3-fan-popularity/
yes, I was mega unhappy about the fact they left him out. so many characters should not be in it.
Who cares about Tron bonne?
-Tabs<3-
*looks around and raises hand* D:
Don't ask me why, I just love her.
 

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NotAPie said:
Daedalus1942 said:
VGC USpartan VS said:
I figured it was just me who wanted him in this game. I was wrong.Looks like he might just make it to DLC.
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/02/21/x-sitting-pretty-in-mvc3-fan-popularity/
yes, I was mega unhappy about the fact they left him out. so many characters should not be in it.
Who cares about Tron bonne?
-Tabs<3-
*looks around and raises hand* D:
Don't ask me why, I just love her.
I understand that and you're entitled to your opinion, but her over X? Zero made it into the game. it really is just stupid that X didn't.
-Tabs<3-
 

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dathwampeer said:
But models of already existing characters, with movesets ect. have been found on game discs. Before they were announced as DLC. This is a clear cut case of them trying to squeeze as much money as possible out of the consumer. like 4 of the new characters codes were already on disc. They're going to charge for those characters as DLC. Ergo they're being dicks.

I'd have waiter another 6 months for it to come out with more, well fleshed out characters.

They just know they'll make double the profit of constant DLC characters because people will pay it.
Ya, except if you actually listened to the rest of the info with that, you would have learned that all of the characters still left on the disc are incomplete.
They may have movesets, sure, put even they are incomplete, along with missing textures, sound files and etc.

Frank West was going to be in the game(he was even in one of the trailers for it), but he was cut out at the end due to production costs and time. Jill, Shuma, and Doc Ock are still all on the disc too, also in a incomplete state.

You got the full game, those extra 4 characters are worth the 5$ each or however much they are, because Capcom specifically has to go back and finish up and fix said characters.

There are still characters who play similar. It's a fighting game, that happens.

Please wise me in on why it was okay to bring back sentinel but not Venom? He's by far one of the cheapest. And he's not likely to have more fans than Venom.
Like I said before, that's Marvel's choice, not Capcom. Marvel decides who they want on their side, Capcom says if they can or not. Also, Venom isn't as popular anymore as he was in the 90's, plus blob characters, especially in fighting games, are and would be hard as hell to make and animate. He was probably cut out due to time and cost if he was on the list originally.
 

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It would be nice to have X in the game but I would prefer if they would bring back 1 of the members of my team cause they removed all 3 of them and I miss them :(
I don´t care which one is it just give me Strider, Captain Commando or Gambit JUST 1!
C'mon guys those 3 are awesome!
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VGC USpartan VS said:
I figured it was just me who wanted him in this game. I was wrong.Looks like he might just make it to DLC.
http://www.themmnetwork.com/2011/02/21/x-sitting-pretty-in-mvc3-fan-popularity/
OMG! just read what was in the link, Strider is wining! YES, that means there is a chance I´ll get one of my 3 back *goes away to celebrate*
 

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dathwampeer said:
I never said they were complete....characters that should have been included.
Umm...what?
How are you suppose to add something that isn't complete yet?

If anything it most likely ended up like the Dragon Age DLC did, almost finished by game publication, but was later finished finished during the time the CDs were being made, so it's now being added as DLC, because its suppose to cover the additional work done after the completion of the game.
 
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dathwampeer said:
What you're neglecting is that those characters were peoples favorites.

And Ryu and Ken don't play alike. Ask anyone who knows about SF and they'll tell you there are 2 very different approaches to playing as either character. I could use Akuma and Ryu very well in MVC2. I couldn't use Ken. By the same stretch. My friend used Ken religiously but is useless with both Akuma and Ryu. That's translated to this game. He can't use the only 2 SF characters in the game worth a damn.
To save time and money, they just copy/pasted the animations and moves. And they all have the same basic attacks, you just have to press different buttons to use them. And since MvC3 uses a more easy-to-use control system, those characters would have been redundant. And if Street Fighter 4 is any indication, everyone would use Ken.

Again.. You're neglecting the fact people liked to play as them. I used to switch out Venom from my team from time to time and use Blackheart.
They were also insanely infuriating to fight against. Practically nothing hit Servbot and Roll, and Blackheart's attacks hit everything everywhere, and was a pain in the ass to fight against. For everyone.

AGAIN. Peoples preference.

I used M. Bison religiously. When you learnt his teleportation powers like the back of your hand he was very good. And Both Thanos and Anakaris were useful. I don't really know about the others.
Wesker and Phoenix can both teleport in MvC 3, and both are great fighters. M. Bison wouldn't add much. He'd be a big, heavy hitter(we already have Hulk and Haggard for that) and can teleport(we have Wesker and Phoenix for that now). So his inclusion would't have added much to the game. And whenever I played online, nobody used these characters unless they were screwing around. Except Silver Samurai that one time.

Nerfing my good man, nerfing. There were other OP characters in the last game that aren't so OP now. And some that still are.
True, but its much more cost effective to just cut him and focus on tuning all the other characters. There aren't really any overpowered characters in MvC3. It seems like there is, but if you know what your doing, there isn't much of an issue.

The only point you've made is that it's somehow OK to ignore people favourite characters because you don't like them or they were hard to use.
The vast majority of MvC2 players feel roughly the same as I do. Yes, it sucks that favorite characters don't make it. But overall the game is better for it.

There are still characters who play similar. It's a fighting game, that happens.

Please wise me in on why it was okay to bring back sentinel but not Venom? He's by far one of the cheapest. And he's not likely to have more fans than Venom.
Because I'm guessing Marvel pushed for Sentinel, while not wanting Venom in for whatever reason. Whatever the reason, Sentinel is much more balanced now, and is not as overpowering.

No it doesn't. Complaining that you're favourite character was removed is perfectly justifiable.


True, but saying the game is worse because of it is just stupid.


If they were used in the last game I fail to see a difference.

Also wouldn't story be the thing Marvel were most protective over? It's not like they've made any successfully fighting games lately.
Times change. People's interests change, and Marvel's/Capcom's plans change. There's also the almighty beast of marketing to the mainstream that all companies bow to. Marvel probably focus tested and got negative reactions. I don't know. There's also copyright issues that may have played a part. Point is, there are plenty of reasons why certain characters weren't included.
 

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Guys have you seen the current votes?
http://www.capcom-unity.com/marvelvscapcom/go/thread/view/102977/27061421/Marvel__Capcom_DLC_survey_results__round_2_info

Did you see that?! Phoenix Right it's on 3rd place!
WOW! I´ll gladly give up the awesomeness that is Strider for FREAKING Phoenix Right!
Let´s all vote for him!
EDIT: Just found out voting is over, that makes me sad :(
EDIT2: Just found out there will be another Phase of voting and that Phoenix Right is going to be included too, C'mon guys let's take the OBJECTION! initiative, I don't care about any of the other guys now, I just want to see How would the lawyer fight!
 

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dathwampeer said:
Ok, to be fair, no, I did not see that, and I apologize.
I've just had to deal with so much crap from people on here and other places about this game, and fighting games in general, I kind of just crack x-x

While I won't agree with your thinking that the 4 characters DLC is bad, especially cause from my standing, it is legimately worth the 5$ because they tried to put them in the game, but couldn't reach the cut-off time, I will agree that all the other DLC for it is going to be somewhat bullshit.

They have been rumors saying how the game is going to have at least 100$ worth of DLC by the time its done, but I think that's more the Capcom(the company)'s fault, than I think it is Capcom(the MvC3 dev group)'s fault.

Capcom knows the game is going to sell like hot cakes, and I can't remember which year it was(either 2008,9,or 10) where Capcom had their worst sales since launch..so they are seeing this now as a huge cash grab to make up for it so they are padding it with DLC..so it makes sense...kind of...

Other than that, my views are pretty much the same as Irridium's.