Poll: Most Useless Final Fantasy character

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

How could anyone vote Rikku (FFX)? She's one of only 3 swimmers...

My vote goes to Cat Shit (Cait Sith).

lol i haven't heard of cat shit before, thats a good name

i think 'cat shit' definitely gets my vote..

although penelope was so useless, im actually one of few people who liked ff12..it was different and i liked it, i just wish the story had been stronger, or made the characters have some better backstory, some of the main characters were just so weak in story/personality depth that i could just not get into the story at all at times.

 

[JustTriMee]

Quina. Until she gets her Blue Magic. Then he/she's just insanely overpowered.

 

[GloatingSwine]

It's a 30 way tie.

The only good one is this:

Hilariously, the Black Mage was shit in FF1, because it's primary stat, INT, did nothing. Ever. You could completely replace Black Mages with Red Mages, only losing the level 8 spells, and by the time you're levelled enough to get those the crowd control which is their only function doesn't matter as much anyway (and anything attacking in enough mass to be worth using crowd control on can be slapped down by ICE3 anyway), and the most useful spell, FAST, can even be cast by a Ninja.

Penelope while yea you CAN equip her with anything she simply is just weaker in all categories compared to every other character at the same level. Give her a sword but her attack is half of Vaan, Bathier etcc, give her a bow and her speed is to incredibly low. make hert a spellcaster and find that she has to go to a fight to the deah with a wolf that you find at the beginnning of the game.

IIRC, Penelo has the highest speed in the game, which means that she is your best thief.

 

[NickCaligo42]

My vote went for Penelo. She's not actually as useless as the rest of these guys and surprisingly makes a really great black mage, but in terms of the story she has no purpose whatsoever.

Yeah, Cait Sith is pretty well tacked-on and has a flimsy pretext for joining the party, but he at least has a pretext being that it's actually Reeve controlling a robot, and he actually does something useful in retrieving the black materia.

Yeah, Quina is completely tacked-on and has no motivation that I can discern that's relevant to the story, but at least he/she is amusing and serves as a colorful and unique addition to the cast.

Yeah, Rikku has horrible dialogue, but she at least has a personality (if an obnoxious and overly cheery one), she at least has unique and useful skills, and she probably has the strongest role in the story of any of the characters listed here as she is Yuna's cousin.

Penelo? She, like Vaan, just sort of got roped into the whole debacle of FF12 by circumstance and honestly has no business being involved with the heroes after a certain point; she could easily leave the group and nobody would notice. Visually she strikes me as a hollow imitation of Rikku, and personality-wise she just... umm... ... She... .... what was she like again? Meanwhile the skills I can attribute to her are only such because I made her a black mage through the crappy license board system, which I could've done with just about anybody. She just... isn't interesting, even when you compare her to Quina, and that's a tough sell.

 

[Rishtaka]

Cait Sith. From memory his limit break could end up one shotting your entire party if you were unlucky.

 

[GloatingSwine]

how is wakka not on that list? he is by far the most uselss charecter oh let me throw a blitzball at you and do 2 damage!

Because Wakka has the highest damage capacity of any character in FFX.

Yeah, Cait Sith is pretty well tacked-on and has a flimsy pretext for joining the party, but he at least has a pretext being that it's actually Reeve controlling a robot, and he actually does something useful in retrieving the black materia.

On the other hand, in FFVII the only difference between characters was their limit breaks, and Cait Sith had the crappest limit breaks. Even Yuffie and Vincent, who where completely optional had better limits.

 

[WelshDanny]

Cait Sith in my opinion. Lower strength than the likes of Cloud & Cid, Lower Magic than Vincent & Red XIII, and his Toy Box limit break was pretty useless - especially that ability where he turns into one massive character with 9999 health. That was annoying when you're party members pretty much had that much health anyway!

 

[Wakefield]

How could anyone vote Rikku (FFX)? She's one of only 3 swimmers..

Also I immediately jump her to Lulu's sphere grid and she becomes a powerful mage. Even more useful when underwater.

 

[NickCaligo42]

how is wakka not on that list? he is by far the most uselss charecter oh let me throw a blitzball at you and do 2 damage!

Because Wakka has the highest damage capacity of any character in FFX.

Yeah, Cait Sith is pretty well tacked-on and has a flimsy pretext for joining the party, but he at least has a pretext being that it's actually Reeve controlling a robot, and he actually does something useful in retrieving the black materia.

On the other hand, in FFVII the only difference between characters was their limit breaks, and Cait Sith had the crappest limit breaks. Even Yuffie and Vincent, who where completely optional had better limits.

Actually they do have statistical differences that suggest one character is better for one purpose than another. Case in point: Aeris's black magic will do way more damage than Tifa with the exact same Materia setup. Cait Sith is actually particularly powerful as a mage as well, if unconventional--though yes, the Limits are a really significant factor and Cait Sith has by far the worst of the entire group.

 

[JasonKaotic]

I thought Quina was quite good. Collecting Blue Magic was pretty fun. Although my party usually just consisted of Zidane, Vivi and Steiner. Woo.

Oh, and I voted Rikku. The only time I ever brought her out was when I was fighting robots, and eventually I got someone else to learn Steal anyway. Rikku's attacks are PATHETIC. Although her offensive items are useful-ish against bosses if you are easily entertained enough to find joy in running around looking for enemies to steal things from and then stealing them. I am not. So, Tidus, Lulu and Wakka it was. Is. And Yuna in boss fights. The Overdrive strategy = victory.

I haven't played XII much and I haven't really used Cait Sith in VII.

 

[Gindil]

Damn, I can only vote for one...

They were all useless, especially Rikku who only had speed. It took a LOOOOOOONG time to get her some magic or something so she was semi-useful. By then, you had Lulu with Magic, Tidus overall, and even Kimahri, in a few instances, who outclassed her.

Were you using her part of the Sphere Grid throughout the game, and if not, when did you go into a magic focused part of it? I'm curious due to not remembering her ever getting magic when I played the game (I only used her for stealing and for taking out machines, so her inability to do other things didn't matter).

I'd forgotten about how pointless Kimahri was combatwise due to him not having his own path (I only played the game using the basic sphere grid, which is probably why I had that problem; I think I ended up using a Warp Sphere to put him onto Auron's path relatively early in the game so he was able to fight decently).

It's been a few years since I played. But I have a bad habit of powerleveling. It's the reason if I ever finish the story of Disgaea, my characters (all 35 of them plus sensei/pupil combos...) are going to be at or close to 9999.

Basically, if you take long enough, Rikku can get into Lulu's sphere, making her pretty effective. She's not going to overtake Yuna or Lulu herself but at the very least I got her there so she could cast the basics. I'd have to play again to tell you more but that's basically what I did for her.

 

[Chicago Ted]

Rikku wasn't that bad. I actually found Wakka was worse then her.

 

[Bofore13]

All of them ever, except Vivi

 

[Miles Tormani]

Damn, I can only vote for one...

They were all useless, especially Rikku who only had speed. It took a LOOOOOOONG time to get her some magic or something so she was semi-useful. By then, you had Lulu with Magic, Tidus overall, and even Kimahri, in a few instances, who outclassed her.

Were you using her part of the Sphere Grid throughout the game, and if not, when did you go into a magic focused part of it? I'm curious due to not remembering her ever getting magic when I played the game (I only used her for stealing and for taking out machines, so her inability to do other things didn't matter).

I'd forgotten about how pointless Kimahri was combatwise due to him not having his own path (I only played the game using the basic sphere grid, which is probably why I had that problem; I think I ended up using a Warp Sphere to put him onto Auron's path relatively early in the game so he was able to fight decently).

It's been a few years since I played. But I have a bad habit of powerleveling. It's the reason if I ever finish the story of Disgaea, my characters (all 35 of them plus sensei/pupil combos...) are going to be at or close to 9999.

Basically, if you take long enough, Rikku can get into Lulu's sphere, making her pretty effective. She's not going to overtake Yuna or Lulu herself but at the very least I got her there so she could cast the basics. I'd have to play again to tell you more but that's basically what I did for her.

If I remember correctly, the basic sphere grid has Rikku's track run pretty close to Lulu's for the actual spells, blocked quite literally by singular Lvl 2 lock nodes. If you have the corresponding key spheres, you can easily break the locks, teach Rikku the elementals, then send her back on her normal track.

The same thing can be done with Tidus with white magic, as his track runs parallel to Yuna's at times. Specifically for the healing spells.

Spoiler

Interestingly enough, Lulu actually recommends this if you talk to her right before you assault Yevon's primary city (I forget the name). Specifically, she says "You and Rikku should consider learning magic." Increases both of their use in the swimming sections by a significant margin, considering neither of your primary casters (Yuna and Lulu) can swim.

 

[Dreyfuss]

As far as FF characters go, I can't understand all the Vanille and Vann hate and all the Vivi (wow, lots of V's) and Squall love. Most useless character plot-wise is probably Umaro, while most useless is battle is probably Edward from 4. As for who I wanted out of my party the most badly? Wakka, easy. Vivi and the whole Black Mage Village were a huge disgrace to the class (I wanted Black Waltz 3 on my team, that guy just wouldn't quit!), and Squall is annoying with no redeeming qualities, but I have to say Wakka's attachment to his Yevon security blanket was the most infuriating.

 

[WorldCritic]

None of the above! The real answer is Gau from Final Fantasy 6!

 

[mattttherman3]

Hope is pretty useless IMO, I actually stopped playing the game just after he got his spirit thingy.