Poll: Motion controlled gaming! Kinect vs Playstation eye

[HydroFire]

So with the new kinect many new features have been added. Such as
-Voice commands
-Heart rate detected
-Better motion detection
-Can tell how much weight you are putting on a limb
-tells how hard and fast you hit
-can tell who is holding the controller(great for turn based multiplayer games)
-many more features (like specs)

What are your thoughts on the kinect?
Do you like the idea of voice commands?
Do you think it is a good idea that the kinect comes with the xbox one?

Play station eye
-not as good in motion detection as the kinect
-cheaper than the kinect
-no voice commands
-missing MANY features that the kinect has.

What are your thoughts on the Play Station Eye?
Do you think that better specs and better motion capture and voice commands matter?
Will you but a PSeye?

 

[Yuuki]

Should've put an option called "Not interested in motion controls" and that would've got 90% of the votes.

 

[Dirty Hipsters]

I think they're both dumb and I wouldn't want either one.

Also, the playstation eye does have voice commands.

 

[J Tyran]

I too wanted a third "motion controls can burn in hell" option, I will not be buying the PS Eye. Whether I buy an Xbone later next year will depend on the Kinect, if as advertised it can be turned off and games do not have Kinect commands wedged in that you cannot avoid/disable I might get one. If every game genre is "better with Kinect" and I cannot turn it off I will not get one, if they go with current status quo of optional Kinect functionality I can happily stuff the Kinect sensor in some out of the way place and leave it turned off. Unplugged and left in the box is what I would really want but Microsoft are dead set on their course and determined to try and cram Kinect down our throats.

I am not a "gamer" but I can certainly understand gamers distaste for all this stick waggling, hand waving and controller juggling.

To stay on topic and discuss the pros and cons of each device though, the PS Eye is a terrible idea from Sony. If you are absolutely determined to have motion controls you need to go all out, if they are going to do it they should do it well. A half hearted shitty and cheap attempt is no use to anyone, people that like this stuff will want an accurate and responsive device. Doing it on the cheap and missing some key features is not the right way to go about it.

 

[Ed130 The Vanguard]

Hey HydroFire! How's Microsoft been treating you? I hope they didn't punish you too badly due to how your last couple of Xbone threads turned out.

If I had to go with a motion controller, it would be an PS Eye for one very good reason.

Its optional.

If MS starts forcing in the Kinect version of the Wii-Waggle then they can get stuffed because that shit isn't immersive and a pain to set up.

If thousand dollar systems sometimes have trouble distinguishing background nose from speaking despite trained professionals massaging the controls repeatedly, then MS's latest offering has no chance.

And don't get me started on the camera system.

 

[Smooth Operator]

Why are you comparing Waggle 9000 to a web cam? If you want to go Move vs Kinect vs Wii thing then cool, but this is apples and oranges.

So in general I've used these things on multiple ocassions and their biggest problem is they are still far away from being complete, everything lags horribly, isn't accurate in the slightest, you have to calibrate the fuck out of everything, gets false positives all the time and which messes with games non stop, with person detection it's far far worse... and most of all it gives devs ideas for the most horrid of games.
Yes some things will be usable once everything is precise enough, but you will remain with the problem that no natural human interaction involves random air flailing so using that to play games will remain asinine.

 

[TehCookie]

I still find the Wii to have the best motion controls, why isn't that an option? They're even the ones that started the trend.

The kinect and eye both look terrible. Still going to vote eye to annoy you then watch you swap the poll. At the time of posting PS eye is on the bottom.

 

[Andy Shandy]

Subtle there, OP. No one's going to accuse you of anything this time round!

Saying that, even if you'd written it as heavily biased towards the PSEye as you did Kinect, I still would've picked the Kinect. The fact that it is coming with the console means that people might actually make decent games for the damn thing, instead of basically just leaving it to die, like they did previously, and Sony did with the PS Move as well.

 

[Genocidicles]

They're both godawful pieces of shit that harm the gaming experience. Same with the Wii controller.

The only thing that looks like it might be remotely good is the Oculus Rift.

 

[Hazy992]

I want it on record that at the time of writing this the Kinect is the top option with 3 votes and the Eye is the bottom option with 4. Last time you did a poll you swapped the options around to skew the results.

OT: I don't give even the slightest shit about either of them. The only redeeming factor about the Eye is that it isn't bundled with the PS4 so I don't have to spend more on something I don't want.

 

[Chimpzy_v1legacy]

The only thing that looks like it might be remotely good is the Oculus Rift.

The Oculus Rift is not really a controller from what I can gather. It's head tracking functionality seems to just control camera movement/aim, essentially only really replacing the mouse or right analog stick. You'll probably still need some other control input for everything else.

I can't really judge whether or not the Rift would be a step up in terms of immersion, but I imagine a mouse would still be the faster and more precise control method while requiring less effort.

I still find the Wii to have the best motion controls, why isn't that an option? They're even the ones that started the trend.

Agreed, if only because the Wii actually has great games for it, while I can't think of a single really worthwhile one for either Kinect or Eye/Move.

 

[J Tyran]

The only thing that looks like it might be remotely good is the Oculus Rift.

The Oculus Rift is not really a controller from what I can gather. It's head tracking functionality seems to just control camera movement/aim, essentially only really replacing the mouse or right analog stick. You'll probably still need some other control input for everything else.

I can't really judge whether or not the Rift would be a step up in terms of immersion, but I imagine a mouse would still be the faster and more precise control method while requiring less effort.

The Rift would be uncomfortable in some ways, you cannot really turn 360 degrees in a shooter for example so it would need to be scaled up somehow. Not having a 1-1 ratio when you turn your head (or whatever the terminology is) would cause a disconnect with what you see and how you move, there is a name for that.

Motion sickness. (a specific type of motion sickness)

People on trains for instance can have problems if the train ride is too smooth, what they see rushing past the window doesn't match the sensation of movement they are feeling and it makes people feel sick. High speed trains could have the motion passengers feel almost completely damped out but because of this they don't, the first tilting train found this out the hard way.

The Rift does look good for games in a cockpit though, mech games, flight games and driving games. Players operate the vehicle with other controllers but turning the head turns the POV camera of the "pilot" and replaces a hat switch, they can look around inside the cockpit.

If I was using a Rift for shooters etc personally I would disable the gyros/head turning and then use the other controls as normal, basically have it as a huge wall to wall 3D screen. It would increase immersion I think having your perspective placed firmly within the game rather than just looking at a screen.

 

[Caiphus]

Poor OP. These threads just aren't going the way you want them, huh?

I've got one!

Which is better:

Being forced to eat 50g of goat manure

Being allowed to choose between eating 100g of goat manure, or none.

Gee hard decision let me think.

The first one

 

[Ralphfromdk]

Well gee, when you present the options in such a fair, balanced manner, how can I pick?

You forgot the best feature that the Eye has over Kinect anyway: I can unplug it.

Hell, you don't even have to buy the Eye if you don't want it. Right there it has already won.

 

[ellers07]

It's been said already, but I'd go with the Playstation Eye simply because it's optional. Which means I don't ever have to buy it. I have no interest in motion controls even if they did work flawlessly and someone finally made a good game that utilized them.

 

[Vivi22]

I think motion control as it presently exists is the worst thing to happen to gaming since the Virtual Boy and all of these systems for implementing it and the people responsible for creating them can go fuck themselves.

 

[Dimitriov]

They're all garbage. Motion controls are shitty way to interact with gaming.

 

[Doom972]

I was wandering when you were going to show up. People have gotten bored and started Nintendo love/hate threads, because there was no one else to fiercely defend the Xbone.

Shouldn't the comparison be between the Kinect and PS Move?

If I recall correctly, the Move can be used in smaller spaces, so you may want to add this to the original post.

I wouldn't want either of them.

How can I get a job like yours at Microsoft?

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