Poll: Mp40, UMP45,AK74U,Noob tube.... The bane of every cod player.

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JayJayinMay

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Ill get this straight.I like COD.i find it tough,easy to [lay but hard to master.But what i don't like,are people claiming something is overpowered.Yes,i have done it in the past.But i don't know.I know that the guns listed in the title are seen as overpowered,and maybe they are.Well,they don't seem to have any weaknesses,that's for sure.Long range fighting.Not really workable on the mp40,but the ump?Burst fire it with silencer.Ak74u?Grip it.

*sigh*

The Grenade launcher.I still think people who use it as a primary weapon,are worse at the game then those who don't.Just because its their choice,doesn't mean its good one.They use it because it worked on mw2,and now they are trying it on black ops.I'm glad to see it works worse.But Ive seen some ridiculously accurate shots with them.IE, the house to the pier in Jungle.What these people need is the China lake.i would actually laugh out loud if someone ran around with the China lake.

off topic now..hmm...ok Escapist,what do you think about these guns.Are they OP?if not,why not?Share your experiences and etc.

P.s:i dont want to start a flame war here.If you want to insult me,dont bother posting.I want intelligent answers.

TL;DR: Dont bother.
 

comadorcrack

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Not gonna lie. I do use the AK-74u with grip and silencer... Its just a good gun... And the other SMG's are useless... I refuse to feel bad about this!!
However I've always hated the noob tube. Not just cos other use it, but cos i think its useless...
 

Spencer Petersen

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The problem I find is with the map design it actively discourages any weapons that aren't capable of killing at any range. Sniper rifles are useless due to the asinine drift. Shotguns have a 10 foot tether tied to their bullets to keep them from ever being deadly past useless range. LMGs have so much recoil and are so inaccurate hip fire that they cant do well in long range or CQB. SMGs and Assault Rifles have no disadvantages in the game. They all fire with minimal recoil and kill within 5 hits at the very most, they reload fast, are quick to ADS, fire blisteringly fast and are very mobile. The problem is that someone who coded the ak74u decided to give it the offensive stats of an assault rifle with the mobility of an SMG, essentially making it the very best gun in the game. I really don't get why a small stockless AK (which wasn't even made in the time period the game takes place) provide more stopping power than a high powered shotgun in close quarters, beat a light support weapon in short range, out-gun a burst-fire assault rifle at medium range and hold steadier than a bolt action sniper rifle at long range. It just blows my mind.
 

JayJayinMay

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comadorcrack said:
Not gonna lie. I do use the AK-74u with grip and silencer... Its just a good gun... And the other SMG's are useless... I refuse to feel bad about this!!
However I've always hated the noob tube. Not just cos other use it, but cos i think its useless...
NOOB!Nah,joke.Im usinmg it right now,if only to get some postive K/D's in to get to level 20 faster....in 2nd prestige,and want to get to level 20 to get the galil...
 

SomeBoredGuy

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I'll be honest. I love using the AK74u with Rapid Fire, Steady Aim Pro, Lightweight Pro and Marathon Pro. It's just the perfect set-up to have a blast with while annoying the other team. All I need to do is sprint everywhere and then when I see an enemy I start jumping around and firing from the hip. The hip accuracy of the 74u with Steady Aim combined with the sheer number of bullets rained from the Rapid Fire attachment leads to death for whatever you want to wish it upon.

That said, I don't really rage against "overpowered" setups since there is a counter for all of them. Someone noobtubing? Slap on Flak Jacket and make them useless. Someone rushing you with a 74u? Chances are they have Marathon or Ninja on instead of Hacker so just throw down a claymore somewhere where they'll be too busy sprinting to notice it.
 

silver wolf009

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MP40, dual magazine with either Juggernaught or Double Tap. Good god I hate those MP sons of bastages! (Kookie for refrence)
 

willer357

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Spencer Petersen said:
The problem I find is with the map design it actively discourages any weapons that aren't capable of killing at any range. Sniper rifles are useless due to the asinine drift. Shotguns have a 10 foot tether tied to their bullets to keep them from ever being deadly past useless range. LMGs have so much recoil and are so inaccurate hip fire that they cant do well in long range or CQB. SMGs and Assault Rifles have no disadvantages in the game. They all fire with minimal recoil and kill within 5 hits at the very most, they reload fast, are quick to ADS, fire blisteringly fast and are very mobile. The problem is that someone who coded the ak74u decided to give it the offensive stats of an assault rifle with the mobility of an SMG, essentially making it the very best gun in the game. I really don't get why a small stockless AK (which wasn't even made in the time period the game takes place) provide more stopping power than a high powered shotgun in close quarters, beat a light support weapon in short range, out-gun a burst-fire assault rifle at medium range and hold steadier than a bolt action sniper rifle at long range. It just blows my mind.
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Hosker

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I don't really think any of those guns are overpowered; they are just good all round guns that many people like. They don't really have any drawbacks but they don't excel at any range.
The AK74U can easily be beaten at short range by another sub-machine gun, and can be easily beaten at medium to long by an assault rifle or sniper rifle.
 

Dimensional Vortex

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Danceofmasks said:
Teh knife.
Being shot is one thing, but a teleporting instant kill is freakin' lame.
Agreed, I saw a match winning kill were a guy killed someone in front of him with the knife while the guy was easily a meter in front of him. They should take commando out, increased melee distance is annoying as shit.
 

willer357

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SomeBoredGuy said:
Someone rushing you with a 74u? Chances are they have Marathon or Ninja on instead of Hacker so just throw down a claymore somewhere where they'll be too busy sprinting to notice it.
They usually go so fast they run past the claymore. I swear that has happenned to me like fifty times. It's either too close and they run past it or it's too far away and they see it and take it out.

The thing that gets me is how useless the sniper rifles have become. In Modern Warfare they were amazingly fun to use. In Modern Warfare 2 they were so easy to use that most people ended up running around and using them as high powered assault rifles rather than sniping. In WaW they were fun but most of the maps were too small to be really effective with them.

Now, in an attempt to make things balanced, in Black Ops they are useless, because the only advantage of having a sniper rifle is that they do alot of damage, otherwise you're just carrying around a giant, heavy, cumbersome block that has horrible ADS and drifts everywhere like a ************. In this game they reduced the damage so much that it is just worthless.

The other thing I hate is that while waiting to get the game I constantly heard that they had gotten rid of the Commando perk from Modern Warfare 2. "AWESOME!" I thought "Now I won't end up getting knifed every single time I get within 10 yards of someone just for not using Commando."

...Nope. All you have to do is use the ballistic knife, and even without that I would prefer that they bring Commando back because it seems that instead of making everyone not be able to knife others from ten feet away through a brick wall, they instead gave that ability to everyone who can spam the knife button.

There is nothing more frustrating than having a shotgun, seeing someone that is actually in it's range, getting the drop on them, shooting your weapon, and then automatically dying and seeing the man you shot in the face point blank with buckshot teleport right in front of you.

Multiply that rage by five when after the guy runs off you can see the fresh bullet holes in the wall where the guy was, sometimes there is even some dust still falling from the impact.
 

Danceofmasks

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Dimensional Vortex said:
Danceofmasks said:
Teh knife.
Being shot is one thing, but a teleporting instant kill is freakin' lame.
Agreed, I saw a match winning kill were a guy killed someone in front of him with the knife while the guy was easily a meter in front of him. They should take commando out, increased melee distance is annoying as shit.
ONE meter? That's ok ... it's the FIVE meter lunges that I have issues with.
Ok, a bit of an exaggeration, and no longer possible since a recent patch, but my point stands.
 

C95J

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none!

If you complain about how good that gun is then why not just use it? If you keep getting killed by it then use it and you will get more kills. Simple isn't it? Everybody has the same access to the same guns so don't complain.
 

Buizel91

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Don't forget the M4 Carbine from COD 4 :')

I don't have much problem with them, i usually have beefs with Snipers the most, but that's because i never see them :')
 

Alexander Cron

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The bane of COD players are people like you who do nothing but complain how they get smashed by cheap weapons. You are playing a game in which most of the community is probably under thirteen and not above being cheap to win. You need to just either play a different game with a better community, or get over it by doing something cheap back or getting better.
 

Armored Prayer

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I tried the AK74U with the appropriate perks once. I instantly hated it. Makes the game way to easy for me and I fell like a dick using it.

I prefer using the AK47 with dual mags and reflex sight. And thank God for the latest patch that made snipers usable again. Even better that not many players still don't know how to use it.