Drop in fire power is too great for normal matches, And uhh that's all I use for hardcore perk 2...Yah i know i've been playing the game since 2001, not an idiot. Thermal just took the skil out of sniping. Seriously all you have to do is scroll across the screen til you sa bright white mass.arc1991 said:urm...thermal isn't all that...try cold blooded my friend =) its for perk 2 =) and i find the stealth to be ok, not the best, i can easily sneak around and kill 5 people with a knife, while been where the enemy is =)crepesack said:HAHAHA...Well anyways, I was two inches away from purchasing MW2 on my pc...literally, I decided not to because to be honest i don't like the feel of the mouse. But anyways. I agree mw2 did NOT live up to expectations, I've been following the series since cod 2. And it got better until cod 4 then just plateaued.
For everyone saying that they should stop the series...how about a big fuck no? For one, it's not even a SERIES as one would have it. For one there have been only two installments in an actual original plot so far mw1 and mw2, and secondly the other 3 games were all historical based... not really series as it was just a large player in a particular genre, ww2 fps.
They dropped the ball on mw2, i agree, for everyone, crap servers, glitches, and terrible hosting...it's not unplayable, it's just not as fun as the previous games...I can tell...mainly because I just HATE hardcore search and destroy now, when it used to be my favorite game type.
Thermal made life for everyone too easy, weapon accuracy is ridonkulous the fact that i can't have Ninja AND sitrep neuters your ability on offense as well. either A: get murked by someone with heartbeat or B: raped by explosives lying everywhere.... They basically made stealth in HCSD impossible.
And let's not forget that smug jackass kotick and how its success serves only to bolster his horrible business policies.Dys said:So basicially, because a minority of PC gamers threw a big tantrum the majority who quietly ignored the game have overreacted?
The modern warfare 2 hate is perfectly justified, it's the sixth call of duty game (not counting expansions) and for some reason morons gobble it up and shower it with awards. It did nothing new, took out features and cost more than previous titles, and the worst part is that people though that this subpar game is somehow the best EVAR!!1
The hate is perfectly justified, I won't apologize for thinking it's a shit game anymore than I would for not liking the fucking Jonas Brothers..
Case and point ^^^^DOCTOR DEVICE said:PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)
Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
Let it go Sass.Sasquatch99 said:*Face hits wall hard*
Seriously. What is the point of this?
Actually, don't tell me. I thought we had got past all the shit about MW2 and it's problems. But no. Someone had to throw a hissy fit and post a rant against those who don't like which is flamebait tastic.
If you like this game, make a reasonable argument instead of baiting the PC community and making them look like a bunch of elitist *CENSORED* for god's sake. If you can't do that, don't type anything. At all. No wonder some PC gamers think console gamers are morons when stuff like this gets posted. Jesus.
You have a point. If people's kicking and screaming are annoying you, then I guess the appropriate solution would be to kick and scream about it?FanofDeath said:I'd say this fellow is quite familiar with the internet. After all, we all know how kicking and screaming online makes everything bettar.
I am voicing my opinion, this once, not drawing it out forever, and not starting a caps lock exclamation filled hate message, I respectfully disagree.miracleofsound said:So, you think PC gamers are being douchebags with regards to thier anger... fair enough, you're entitled to your opinion.danpascooch said:Here's what you do:
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Here's what you DON'T do:
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What you do:
1. Maybe empathise
2. Laugh it off,
3. Enjoy the game and leave them to thier rage
What you don't do:
1. Throw a tantrum
2. Start a thread bitching at them, as it will start a flame war
Good idea, I will add a "who gives a shit" option.quiet_samurai said:Haha, that pedastal is fun to sit on huh?danpascooch said:5.) Make a website called ModernWarFAIL.com (seriously, how fucking immature is this?)
Awesome, at least that dude actually did something about it instead of just bitching on a website or forum.danpascooch said:11.) Send a $60 check to a rival company (some crazy dude)
But really, how is what you are doing here any different then the people you mention in your rant.
You need a "who gives a shit" option to your poll.
I don't think it's wrong at all to not like the game, to each his own.Donnyp said:3.) What if we think its not even a mediocre game? I don't plan to buy it period but not because of the pc rage but because it doesn't look fun as everyone makes it out to be.danpascooch said:Here's what you do:
3.) After a couple of days or a week or two admit that it is overall a good game
Here's what you DON'T do:
5.) Make a website called ModernWarFAIL.com (seriously, how fucking immature is this?)
9.) Make a petition (MWfail.com)
10.) Make another petition (MWfail.com)
11.) Send a $60 check to a rival company (some crazy dude)
5.) That was awesome lol. Whoever spent the money on that should receive a High 5. Out of hate he made a website costing him probably more money then the game in the end.
9.) Lol like they say. If you want to try changing something start an internet petition they always work
10.) See 9.)
11.)Doing this is the opposite of good. If you don't like it don't buy it. Rather then being a twat and doing something stupid like this just don't buy it. Worse case scenario you pirate it for the single player. But sending money to someone else for not making a shitty choice is like me sending money to someone because they didn't wipe out on there motorbike and survived the crash with minor injuries lol. I know it sounds messed but i like it.
As i stated i won't be getting it. Might borrow off a friend but won't get it. Also when i read all the Independent servers and Blah blah blah stuff i reacted the same way i always do when something i have no power over happens. go to sleep.
Someone who doesn't want to bash my skull inqbanknight said:doesn't matter if he likes MW2, the reaction PC a$$holes made was ridiculous and immature. he's got every right to make fun of them with his poll and thread
Did you even read the post? That is not what I said at all.Jandau said:So, people aren't allowed to NOT like a game just because you like it? Riiiight....danpascooch said:*snip*
I am not saying PC gamers should not be angry, I actually specifically stated that they SHOULD be, I only think that many of the reactions are ridiculously out of proportion to what they actually did.Glademaster said:So you thought you'd help use all my bringing this back into public knowledge and dredging up the hate again bravo you idiot, flame baiting annoyance. Bravo you deserve a clap.danpascooch said:All of the PC users who HATE MW2 WITH A PASSION! Just because of some of Infinity Ward's new policies are (in my opinion) mostly whiny douchebags with a ridiculous ability to hold a grudge. Yes they made you pay ten dollars more, yes they dropped dedicated servers, yes both of those things suck, yes you should be angry.
No you should not be THIS angry, and no you should not think the game is the "biggest fail of an FPS ever!" or that Infinity Ward is "The worst company EVER!"
Here's what you do:
1.) See what they did to PC users
2.) Get pissed
3.) After a couple of days or a week or two admit that it is overall a good game
4.) After a couple of days or a week or two admit that the company has *some* merits
5.) let rage simmer down to annoyance
6.) Buy or don't buy future IW products based on level of annoyance
7.) In extremely angry cases maybe write a letter or something
Here's what you DON'T do:
1.) See what they did to PC users
2.) Get pissed
3.) Get more pissed
4.) Throw a fucking tantrum
5.) Make a website called ModernWarFAIL.com (seriously, how fucking immature is this?)
6.) Use website to engage in a massively overblown "gamers scorned" smear campaign
7.) Call it the "worst FPS in history!!1!1" (A lot of people)
8.) Call Infinity Ward the "worst company in history!!1!1" (a lot of people)
9.) Make a petition (MWfail.com)
10.) Make another petition (MWfail.com)
11.) Send a $60 check to a rival company (some crazy dude)
12.) Spam their forums in an attempt to create disorder (MWfail.com)
13.) Try to create cheats and hacks to prove the game is unstable and sucks (MWfail.com)
14.) Throw another bigger fucking tantrum
15.) Never give up your uncontrollable rage, and call everything related to IW the worst thing ever, forever, with no regard to the actual quality of the product in question.
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More on topic yes a lot of the hate is deserved because IW fucked over the people who bought the game whe nthe franchise started and no it is not elitist for wanting something that has been there in all PC games since the begining.
EG.1) What if Sony decided to charge for all online services would it be fair to ***** and moan about since you have always had everything free online?
EG.2) Would it be ok to complain if Microsoft decided to up it's online sub price by a $/euro/whatever15 a year?
EG.3) Would it be ok to complain if Nintendo released a patch making all normal Wii controllers useless and forcing people to the Wii+?
To answer all those for you yes it would be ok to complain that is why pc gamers were complaining. Price hike we could live take away dedicated servers, console commands, mods and lean and you start to take the piss as it took more effort and cost them more money to do these than if they had left them in. Since I was a paying customer of IW yes I have rights and as a person helping to keep them in business I want value for what I pay for. I'm not paying 60 euro of my money for a good but not amazing single player with a half done online from a game ported from a console.
Just to make this clear you know Counter Strike that was a mod so yes we are allowed to complain about losing what we have had since day one of PC gaming this is the point that some people don't seem to get. I don't see why console players don't complain about not having dedicated servers as the system is far superior to P2P and actually prevents pirating.imahobbit4062 said:People bitching because they are getting the same treatment as everyone else, then they ***** about the length of the campaign which was the same length as the one they loved.
People are idiots, learn this.
Ok I can you are new here so let me say this make sure you know what you are talking about before you post. Pc gamers are not spoiled elitist brtas that is like me saying that all console players are idiots who scream down mics and are all under the age of 12. For fuck sake with the people going on about extra things nearly everything that is extra is online on the PC because consoles are stripped down PC how can't handle what a PC can. Even though lean could be on consoles.DOCTOR DEVICE said:PC gamers have been spoiled elitist brats for a long while now. Seems like they all feel they should get the Team Fortress 2 treatment. (Or at least the ones petitioning against this game.)
Fortunately companies seem to be favoring console gaming, which I always felt more immersive anyway with vibration feedback and superior graphics. It's a good shooter, probably (no experience) improved by the mouse and keyboard interface and people should just accept it for what it is: a console port. A near direct one; no privileges are on the consoles that isn't on the PC. They're just complaining they didn't get the extra stuff? Boo-hoo.
To sum up what I think about it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and because of that people are entitled to think it is shit or the second coming of Jesus but stop making stupid threads about it that are flamebait. If you don't understand the issue or the limiations of your platform you shouldn't post in such threads so audaciously with such zeal that make you look worse than the PC gamers who signed this petition.
Well, I figured if these PC owners bought the first they would like the second even if they don't completely admit it, I guess that was an unfair assumption, and I will take it out.JimmyBassatti said:MW2 is terrible quality. It beat Bethesda in the, "Buggiest Game Of The Year" award. Why do they have to "Admit it's an overall good game", when IW has shown no respect for their community, half assed the game just to earn some quick cash, and removed everything that was fun about the original Modern Warfare, and instead added tons of things that are broken or just annoying. I'm not trying to flame you, but I see no point in forcing people to say they like the game, and admit it was good, when it really wasn't. But, this is all my opinion, just like when I say that there is no MW2. And, as I like to preach to the Heavens, everything Treyarch has done is more interesting than IW. But, I can see how this will be claimed as flame, as the millions of fans surround me and scream profanities at me.danpascooch said:Le Snip