I've got it on pre-order. I don't care what people say, it's one of my excursions into the land of mindless fun.
Poll: MW3 and the doritos thing...
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I dont think Ill be getting it at all. From what Ive played in the battlefield 3 beta I think its going to be my FPS multiplayer of choice (just like Bad company 2 was before it).
Although the doritos thing just sounds rediculous to me. They want people to buy a huge amount of less then healthy food all the time for in game benefits. It just seems like anyone that buys a ton of dorito's for in game benefits is just, for lack of a better word, whoring themselves out. Dont get me wrong though, if you're making nacho's that night and need some chips go ahead and do it but its just the idea of doing it in huge excess that bothers me.
Although the doritos thing just sounds rediculous to me. They want people to buy a huge amount of less then healthy food all the time for in game benefits. It just seems like anyone that buys a ton of dorito's for in game benefits is just, for lack of a better word, whoring themselves out. Dont get me wrong though, if you're making nacho's that night and need some chips go ahead and do it but its just the idea of doing it in huge excess that bothers me.
Theres 3 sets of killstreaks in this game now, the one youre talking about is purely for support. So no, they wont be endlessly calling in airstrikes, just uavs, counters, ammo crates and stuff like that.Armored Prayer said:
The other 2 lists are the really dangerous ones, with 1 list being your basic "kill everyone" killstreaks, while the other list is purely to give you an extra perk every few kills, and i believe ALL the perks you have unlocked in that list when you hit 8.
I don't know anything about doritos but I do love the new moutain dew flavor (the darker green one not the red one the one they keep packaging since halo 3)...I want one now
No I won't be purchasing it. I have Battlefield 3 preordered thru newegg as it was $12 off or something. I am unhappy with IW's take on how to make a game. I don't always want to fight people on the ground. I want vehicles, I want game type options, I want coop.
Their CoDs don't really fit me as well as Treyarch's.
Marketing for games is really random and all over the place. Some companies want to stick to a standard and other companies just want you to notice them. Associating a game with a drink or food is a STRONG form of advertising. Every time I drink a Mtn Dew Livewire, I taste Gamefuel and thus think about Halo3 ... what does that tell you about a game that is 5 yrs old?
Their CoDs don't really fit me as well as Treyarch's.
Marketing for games is really random and all over the place. Some companies want to stick to a standard and other companies just want you to notice them. Associating a game with a drink or food is a STRONG form of advertising. Every time I drink a Mtn Dew Livewire, I taste Gamefuel and thus think about Halo3 ... what does that tell you about a game that is 5 yrs old?
My buddy is a huge CoD fanboy so I'll just borrow it from him, play the SP and never look at it again.
But OP if you are looking for a hardcore cheap party game try picking up L4D.
But OP if you are looking for a hardcore cheap party game try picking up L4D.
I resent that.DBLT4P said:
I really enjoyed Twilight Princess, love the hell out of Okami, burned days playing Metroid Prime 1-3, and still play my Wii during the week.
Yes, there are a lot of casual games for the Wii, but there are also lots of casual games for the 360 and PS3; abusing the kinect and move features. People that think Nintendo is nothing but casual games and 10 year olds, really piss me off. Half of the people I have the "pleasure" of playing with on xblive sound like they are 8-12 years old.
I'll get Doritos every once and a while when I feel like it, but I won't suddenly buy $100 worth of chips just for the sake of exp.
I didn't start this tread to bash the wii or casual gaming, I gave my opinion on the matter to better show the direction I was coming from, with regards to to MW3, and its marketing strategy, which I see as blatant pandering to attract casual players. I don't have a problem with casual gamers or anyone unless they are somehow harming someone else or something that will affect someone else.scorptatious said:
My problem with this strategy is that it is a SHORTCUT, that short-circuits the development of skill in the player and undercuts any feeling of accomplishment. and my fear is that if this approach is viewed as a success, that it will become a trend that will spread, for lack of a less cheesy term, far and wide.
note I did not say casual gamers, but the people and companies pandering to them. I have a wii and a DS, which i bought specifically to play smash bros. zelda, and fire emblem, I tried to like it too but i cant shake the feeling I would have preferred them on the gamecube. My problem with the Wii is what its stands for, at least to me: nintendo's forsaking of the people on which its success is built, the people (like me) that tried to stick with it and buy their products even though every time they would the characters and franchises they so desperately wanted to like seemed to have their attention elsewhere like someone divorcing their wife because they are too old and remarrying someone 20 years younger.Torrasque said:
And no significant amount of people are going to buy $100 worth of chips, its not supposed to work like that. The strategy is designed to that people eating the chips who wouldn't have bought the game consider buying it because of the decrease in perceived effort on their part.
I have always thought that Nintendo caters to it's fans more than any other developer - especially since they are throwing so much free stuff at me because I bought a 3DS on the first day it was out - but I am quite biased, since my N64 and GBA are practically my second set of parents.DBLT4P said:
As to your concern about Nintendo selling more games to casuals than srs gamers like us, it is more than likely true. Hell, every time I go into my local EB Games, and look at the Wii/DS section, my eyes glaze over the hundreds of titles that look like they were made for 5 year olds, and are drawn to the grittier or flashy games.
To be fair though, independent developers may try to make games for a specific age group and fan base, but large companies like Nintendo have to focus on one thing: making money. How they do that doesn't really matter in the end, but if they can make a lot of money by making games for a group of potential gamers, then why shouldn't they? Microsoft and Sony have followed Nintendo's example; every game on Kinect and Move is designed for the casual gamer. There are very very few cases where the Kinect and Move actually work for a non-casual game, but that is the case with new technology like the Kinect and Move. The only games on the Wii that actually works with motion controls (that I have seen) are Metroid Prime 3, Okami (even that is iffy at times), and Twilight Princess. I think Resistance 3 was supposed to support Move (I don't own a PS3, or follow most Sony news), but are serious gamers interested in that? I think not.
TL;DR: Don't bash Nintendo for making a smart business move that makes them lots of money, good games still get made, they are just not the main constituent these days.
Im not saying its not a good business plan on Nintendo's part, the casual market was an unexplored goldmine before the wii. But just because its a good way to make money does not mean i have to support it, or agree with it. As a consumer it is my right to complain if i feel the provider has somehow slighted me, or promote something i have a vested interest in, and its their right to dismiss me as a minority, thats how capitalism works.
Good game do get made, and good games will always get made, my concern is how many.
side note, I dont like the Wii or what it stands for, but i HATE PS Move and Kinect - the Wii was a daring and innovative change, Kinect and Move (and 3D) are just sony and microsoft trying to get in on the action
Good game do get made, and good games will always get made, my concern is how many.
side note, I dont like the Wii or what it stands for, but i HATE PS Move and Kinect - the Wii was a daring and innovative change, Kinect and Move (and 3D) are just sony and microsoft trying to get in on the action
I don't get what the problem is with the Doritos thing.
I mean, what's the penalty here, we get to eat chips?
I mean, what's the penalty here, we get to eat chips?
I would say just don't bother. The CoD games have been going downhill since MW1.
MW1 was great, with pacing and juxtaposition all around, but MW2 was the total opposite. It was a collection of Micheal Bay films strung together, in which you must hold down the R Trigger and push the Left Thumbstick forward to watch.
MW3 looks like it will be even worse and BF3 in my opinion also sucks, just not as hard. Both games have a problem with the multi-player where there isn't really any skill involved, it's just a game of who-sees-who first. The first person to be seen is the first to die, end of story.
MW1 was great, with pacing and juxtaposition all around, but MW2 was the total opposite. It was a collection of Micheal Bay films strung together, in which you must hold down the R Trigger and push the Left Thumbstick forward to watch.
MW3 looks like it will be even worse and BF3 in my opinion also sucks, just not as hard. Both games have a problem with the multi-player where there isn't really any skill involved, it's just a game of who-sees-who first. The first person to be seen is the first to die, end of story.
DBLT4P said:
Totally not bashing. Nope.DBLT4P said:
Also, what does it matter that people earn a few extra EXP through eating chips? Everyone who doesn't buy Doritos can easily catch up by simply playing the game. So I don't really see what the big deal is.
EDIT: Also this "trend" you are talking about. I'm pretty sure this isn't anything new. What with Pre-order bonuses for some games.