Poll: My Experiences with Microsoft Kinect

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PurplePlatypus

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Do you need to stand up all the time with Kinect? I can deal with waving my arms around like a loon but I don?t want to be standing up all the time, with every game, while I play. Also what kind of distance need to be between you and the camera for it to work properly?

I don?t mind motion controls, my only problem with the Wii was that it was sometimes less responsive than you might like. For instance, with Okami I couldn?t use the swords because they had some sort of chargeable attack. I couldn?t get it to release and ended up standing there like an idiot, creatures pummelling me while my useless weapon glows like a calling beacon to them. Plus the whole drawing things with it was a really bad idea, it?s like drawing with the pen on the end of a very long stick. Other than that I don?t mind flailing the Wiimote around and I kind of liked the sword game on Wii sports resort.
 

Nouw

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My Dad is really crazy about it so the chance of buying it is HIGH. I hope he doesn't get dissapointed. I have a cool idea of implementing Time Crisis on it.
 

mrpmpfan

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Veldt Falsetto said:
I reckon it'll take a few years for anything good to be released and by that time next gen'll be out, pointless to me
Seeing as how a Star Wars title is coming out early next year i dont think it will take a couple years.


Also the reasons if the Kinect turns out to be a direct duplicate of the Wii that it will be superior are:

Its HD
It has a great online structure (no friend code bullshit)
Great 3rd party support (unlike the Wii, where the only decent games are 1st party)
I don't see them releasing original Xbox games with pointer controls (unlike Wii's release of Pikmin)
You don't have to buy another $80 controller set up just to have a 2nd user play a game with you (Wiimote $40, Numchuck $20, Motion Plus $20...ouch)
Its motion based game play is actual motion based and not some predetermined wand gesture. Take bowling for example, you can on the Wii get a perfect 300 game with a flick of your wrist. However on Kinect you have to make the full arm swing and aim.
The camera can be used for other applications such as browsing your system, scanning items into games, video chatting and signing you into the system.

So I will end this list now but my point I would like to end on is this. I doubt the Kinect system and games will ever have deep story driven games. But thats not the point of it at all, Kinect is going to enchance controller based games like Fable 3, and provide fun party/family games that anyone can play. Thankfully Microsoft is not in the business to make a bunch of shovelware like Nintendo apparently is so I have high hopes that we will see some amazing titles.
 

mrpmpfan

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PurplePlatypus said:
Do you need to stand up all the time with Kinect? I can deal with waving my arms around like a loon but I don?t want to be standing up all the time, with every game, while I play. Also what kind of distance need to be between you and the camera for it to work properly?

I don?t mind motion controls, my only problem with the Wii was that it was sometimes less responsive than you might like. For instance, with Okami I couldn?t use the swords because they had some sort of chargeable attack. I couldn?t get it to release and ended up standing there like an idiot, creatures pummelling me while my useless weapon glows like a calling beacon to them. Plus the whole drawing things with it was a really bad idea, it?s like drawing with the pen on the end of a very long stick. Other than that I don?t mind flailing the Wiimote around and I kind of liked the sword game on Wii sports resort.
Bowling didn't seem to have any effect if I was to be standing or sitting. The distance was probably about 5 feet if that. The controls seemed way more responsive than the wii, I use to own a wii (at launch) and Kinect felt like I had vast control on what was going on then shaking a white stick to make some pre determined motion go on.
 

mrpmpfan

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Lord Mountbatten Reborn said:
I'm spending the same amount of money on a HDTV so that I can see my story-driven games with more clarity. Money well spent!
You are buying a HDTV for $150? Wow its either really small or made in Russia.
 

mrpmpfan

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atombeast707 said:
how about fuck motion control.
I don't know motion controls haven't pissed me off as badly as some recent big budget (story driven) titles. Final Fantasy XIII comes to mind.
 

The Warden

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First off, that is an awful poll, it only gives the option to approve of the motion sensitive stuff.
Anyway, I suppose I might buy it, but only after a few months of it's release, and only if it has high approval ratings and seems like it may very well become a requirement in the future.
Basically, I'm waiting to see whether or not it crashes and burns.
 

10BIT

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mrpmpfan said:
Seeing as how a Star Wars title is coming out early next year i dont think it will take a couple years.
Yes, because Star Wars is synonymous with high quality in modern times.[/heavy sarcasm]
From what I've seen of this game, all you do is crouch to move forward and flail arms to repel bullets, so it seams to early to claim this as a quality title.

Also the reasons if the Kinect turns out to be a direct duplicate of the Wii that it will be superior are:

Its HD
Not many people have HDTVs. Plus, at least in my opinion, HD/graphical upgrades in general don't add much to a game.

It has a great online structure (no friend code bullshit)
Not many people use online multiplayer. As far as I'm aware, people are more interested in local multiplayer, which the wii is clearly the most dominant at the moment.

Since you've brought up two points about why the console is superior, I'll give you some points about why it's inferior:
1.It overheats due to normal use. I don't know any one in person whom owns a 360 and hasn't encountered the red ring of death.
2.Discs get scratched even with the slightest of vibrations. I hope anyone who plans to jump next to their 360 would be willing to buy the same game over and over again.

Great 3rd party support (unlike the Wii, where the only decent games are 1st party)
Anyone who claims the Wii has no good third party support is either woefully misguided or a liar. The Wii has many great third party games that I'd highly recommend.

I don't see them releasing original Xbox games with pointer controls (unlike Wii's release of Pikmin)
And this is bad because? The games that were ported have been greatly improved by the motion controls.

You don't have to buy another $80 controller set up just to have a 2nd user play a game with you (Wiimote $40, Numchuck $20, Motion Plus $20...ouch)
And now you're trying to convince me to buy a $150 motion controller by telling me $80 is too much for a motion controller. Am I missing something here?

Its motion based game play is actual motion based and not some predetermined wand gesture. Take bowling for example, you can on the Wii get a perfect 300 game with a flick of your wrist. However on Kinect you have to make the full arm swing and aim.
You've clearly not been listening to the complaints if you call this superior. Anyway, how is the ability to play like this a negative for the control scheme, surely the problem rests with the player for choosing the lazy route.

The camera can be used for other applications such as browsing your system, scanning items into games, video chatting and signing you into the system.
Stuff that are pure gimmicks that I can't see doing anything practical with and stuff I can already do on my PC, really winning me over here.

So I will end this list now but my point I would like to end on is this. I doubt the Kinect system and games will ever have deep story driven games. But thats not the point of it at all, Kinect is going to enchance controller based games like Fable 3, and provide fun party/family games that anyone can play.
This is the reason why most people here are not interested. The vast majority of escapists (including me) prefer deep, challenging, 'hardcore' experiences as opposed to the pick-up-and-play, family-fun, 'casual' experience offered buy the current line up, so coming here and believing you would be able to change people's opinion on Kinect is overly optimistic.

Really, the success is all down to what games come out for it. If it weren't for games like The Godfather, Zak & Wiki, and The Conduit (amongst others) showing off the wii's potential so well, I wouldn't be so enthusiastic about motion controls as I am now. While I may be sceptical about Kinect now, it still has the potential to win me over.

Thankfully Microsoft is not in the business to make a bunch of shovelware like Nintendo apparently is so I have high hopes that we will see some amazing titles.
This really annoys me. Nintendo are not in the business of making shovelware and those who claim otherwise are idiots who a) can't tell the difference between casual and shovelware and/or b) have yet to realise shovelware is abundant on all popular systems, see: PS2, PS1/N64, SNES, etc.
 

Zaik

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would have rather had a "hell no waste of money" option, but that works too.
 

Broken Orange

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jamez525 said:
I am sure Kinect will be used in tandem with a 360 controller, I remember hearing something about head tracking to look around a car in Forza motorsport but I am fairly sure you will still be using controllers/steering wheels.
You just sold me on Kinect. I am having spasm right now thinking of the possibilities!

Once they show more hardcore stuff (i.e. driving games), and price drop, and get a job, I might get it. So many people are calling it crap before playing it. At least play a demo of it first, then call it shit.
 

Veldt Falsetto

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mrpmpfan said:
Veldt Falsetto said:
I reckon it'll take a few years for anything good to be released and by that time next gen'll be out, pointless to me
Seeing as how a Star Wars title is coming out early next year i dont think it will take a couple years.


Also the reasons if the Kinect turns out to be a direct duplicate of the Wii that it will be superior are:

Its HD
It has a great online structure (no friend code bullshit)
Great 3rd party support (unlike the Wii, where the only decent games are 1st party)
I don't see them releasing original Xbox games with pointer controls (unlike Wii's release of Pikmin)
You don't have to buy another $80 controller set up just to have a 2nd user play a game with you (Wiimote $40, Numchuck $20, Motion Plus $20...ouch)
Its motion based game play is actual motion based and not some predetermined wand gesture. Take bowling for example, you can on the Wii get a perfect 300 game with a flick of your wrist. However on Kinect you have to make the full arm swing and aim.
The camera can be used for other applications such as browsing your system, scanning items into games, video chatting and signing you into the system.

So I will end this list now but my point I would like to end on is this. I doubt the Kinect system and games will ever have deep story driven games. But thats not the point of it at all, Kinect is going to enchance controller based games like Fable 3, and provide fun party/family games that anyone can play. Thankfully Microsoft is not in the business to make a bunch of shovelware like Nintendo apparently is so I have high hopes that we will see some amazing titles.
Not at all, don't be ridiculous, we've seen nothing of this star wars title so it could be awful,

HD isn't everything,
I'll give you online,
yeah it had 3rd party support but Xbox has no 1st party support and we all know thats what Nintendo does best,
theres nothing wrong with releasing older games and upgrading them, ps3 is doing the same with move and Heavy Rain and Resi 5, its just so people can experience different games you dont have to buy them if you dont want to.
I don't know how kinect works but I hear there are problems with it just as there are problems with the wii or move, and apparantly these problems are worse because at least there isnt a noticable lag in wii games, besides, the wii console and natal itself cost the same, bearing in mind you have to buy a 360 console too if we're talking about having neither from the start the 360 costs more

Also, read that last paragraph of yours again...first of all, you can experience deep, story driven games on the wii, that work, and when I talk about good quality games I think of that, secondly, all the Kinect games we've seen so far haven't been scared of calling themselves Wii knockoffs (albeit rather subtley, Wii/Kinect Sports).

And...what shovelware are you talking about?

The dance games (that WILL be appearing on Kinect)
The sports games (that WILL be appearing on Kinect)
Infact, I bet Kinect will even get their own version of Cooking Mama.

Also, Nintendo themselves do not make these games, apart from Wii ------, the equivalent of Kinect ------, most of Nintendo's titles are great quality titles that are actually loved by all.

The reason I think it'll take ages for Kinect to release anything worth buying is because it's taken the Wii, outside, Zelda, Mario and Metroid, a while to release a lot of great games, and even still there aren't a huge amount but they are getting better, all this stuff that Xbox is releasing is a waste of time, if it would have waited and released all this at next gen, it would have gone down a lot better.
 

Proteus214

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My usual body orientation for gaming:
Lying on the couch with my arms stretched out with the controller behind my head.

Kinect is definitely not my thing.
 

Beryl77

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Nope, I'm surely not going to buy it. If I want to do some workout, I go outside and play football with friends or go to the gym. When I want to game I want to sit down, with a controller or keyboard and mouse in my hands and to concentrate fully on the game.
 
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mrpmpfan said:
Lord Mountbatten Reborn said:
I'm spending the same amount of money on a HDTV so that I can see my story-driven games with more clarity. Money well spent!
You are buying a HDTV for $150? Wow its either really small or made in Russia.
As large as my normal television (which is not really small). Special offer going. Definitely worth it.