Poll: My solution to the drug problem

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Here is my plan. We legalize possession, but still keep production illegal. This will cause all the buyers to go nuts and buy all they can, thus forcing the market to become dry, and make the producers hard press to keep making the drugs. Not only that, but because our police force is no longer trying to stop random people on the street, they can all be focused on busting the producers, instead of the users. And because of supply and demand, sellers will have to raise up their prices to a point where no one (or very few people) will be able to buy them and they will be unable to support their operations and have to close down their drug labs.

What do you think? Could this actually work?
 

T-Bone24

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Production being illegal hasn't stopped them this far, how would possession being legal discourage them at all?

EDIT: Having read over it again, it sounds like a decent enough plan. No-one would ever vote for it though. Apart from users.
 

Booze Zombie

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I think it'd be better off if you legalised it all and had stringent health and safety laws involved in the production and selling of drugs, just like when chemists make regular ones.
 

HardRockSamurai

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It could possibly work, but I don't think anyone would actually try it, seeing as the first stage of your plan looks like it could cause some major rioting.

My solution to the drug problem: alcohol.
 

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HardRockSamurai said:
It could possibly work, but I don't think anyone would actually try it, seeing as the first stage of your plan looks like it could cause some major rioting.

My solution to the drug problem: alcohol.
Alcohol does more damage than most injectable and smokable drugs...
 

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Booze Zombie said:
HardRockSamurai said:
It could possibly work, but I don't think anyone would actually try it, seeing as the first stage of your plan looks like it could cause some major rioting.

My solution to the drug problem: alcohol.
Alcohol does more damage than most injectable and smokable drugs...
Oh I'm sorry. Here, I'll rephrase:

My solution to the drug problem: alcohol.

[HEADING=2]THE ABOVE WAS JUST A JOKE!!![/HEADING]
 

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Solution to drug issue: let cops treat as a deadly weapon. Would end up with more shootings and less jailings.
 

LockHeart

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I'd just legalise the lot: legalisation = regulation. All criminalising something does is drive it underground. By allowing licensed pharmacies to dispense controlled drugs, you'd be assured good-quality substances that don't have to arrive via a criminal network, at a price that drug pushers can't compete with.
 

eels05

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What about alchohol and tobacco?
How many stats do we need to look at year after year that prove drugs that are sold legally are probably more destructive and damaging in the long term than hard drugs.
 

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Solution in 4 parts:

First part: The government makes and grows the drugs themselves, ensuring quality control. When drugs are sold by streetgangs, they try to make asmuch profit as possible, trying to maximize profits. Whereas the governments only concern is that of the health of their citizens (ok not really but idealy). The government could also outsource this to create jobs. There needs to be VERY strict control on these companies though.

Second part: the government sets up 'drugstores' that sell every type of drug. You will need to be registered to buy from these stores so they can see, when, how much and what you buy as a means to make sure it's drug use and not drug abuse. Amounts will be limited to a certain quantity determined by a study of chemist, biologist and physycians to determine what a safe amount would be (as in regards to addiction problems).

third part: EDUCATION AND NOT MISINFORMATION. What I see when I see anti-drug ads and campaigns is that they're usualy based on lies and misinformation. 'Take this drug and you'll get addicted'. 'Take this drug and you'll probably overdose'. etc .. What this does is creating false expectations with kids and teenagers, who when they come in contact with drugs see that they've been lied to. So they say 'fuck just say no' and just stupidly do everything. There needs to be a special drugclass (and not some stupid D.A.R.E bullshit) that teaches kids what certain drugs do, what the dangers are, how easyily it is to get addicted to certain substances etc ..

Final part: Crack down on the remaining illegal drugtrade (or whatever is left of it) HARD. There are still going to be people who don't have enough with the limited substance from the drugstores and these people are targets for illegal dealers. Now as the black market will have probably collapsed for the greatest part, it's alot easier to battle the rest of them. Most people wont bother with illegal dealers anyway since 90% (madeup figure) of users are recreational, not junkies.

Unfortunatly people are too retarded (OMG IT'S DRUGS IT'S GOING TO KILL MY KID! *chugs down a sixpack/bottle of wine*) so trying to do this would be political suicide. Hopefully we will achieve something similar to this in the future and a whole lot of misery will end.
 

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Well, first of all, we need to stop treating all drugs like they're the same. All I'm seeing here is either "legalize everything" or "do nothing" which is an offshoot of the attitude that ALL drugs will KILL YOU AND YOUR CHILDREN because all drugs want to steal your soul. There is no reason for the government to regulate and produce crack (aside from keeping the black man down), no one needs legal access to heroin. Meth isn't the kind of thing I want the average person to be able to go pick up at the corner store. My point is that there needs to be a delineation between seriously harmful drugs and recreational ones. There needs to be better study of the long-term effects conducted by reputable labs to better educate the populace.

Outside of that the responsibility lies with the user. Sadly, I don't think the US is collectively mature enough for anything more potent that marijuana. Maybe phase in psilocybin mushrooms? Maybe.

In any case which drugs do you think ought to be legalized?
 

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New Troll said:
Solution to drug issue: let cops treat as a deadly weapon. Would end up with more shootings and less jailings.
So you're solution to the drug problem is to execute drug users without trial?

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The best way to control it, is to make it legal.
Regulate and make sure the drugs are good quality. Inform people, and send those with a problem to rehab.
 

TehCookie

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It's illegal to grow and possess drugs now and that's not stopping anyone. Making it legal to possess means they can now do drugs in public.
 

Ctrl-Alt-Elite

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There is a drug problem? Since when did drugs become a problem to people other than non corrupt cops (suprisingly small amount) and overprotective parents?
 

zirnitra

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No it won't work. for one thing there isen't a 'drug problem' people should be able to do whatever they want to there own bodies and produce what they want, the government needs to stop treating the majority of people as stupider than them and end the nanny state.

Your idea will merely do is push otherwise honest good people further into the dark world of organised crime and drug production, putting them onto harder drugs and harming them more. in the cases of addiction it's the producer who always win. the addicts will not be able to pay there debts and end up being killed. aside from this most drugs are grown/synthesised outside of the country in places like South America, South Africa and the middle east. and merely imported.

Having said this places in Scandinavia have made places where possession of heroin is legal and where they may shoot up. this actually decreased the amount of people becoming addicts because, people could see in public the true reality of addiction and stopped thinking of it as a glamorous or rebellious thing.
 

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fenrizz said:
New Troll said:
Solution to drug issue: let cops treat as a deadly weapon. Would end up with more shootings and less jailings.
So you're solution to the drug problem is to execute drug users without trial?

OT:
The best way to control it, is to make it legal.
Regulate and make sure the drugs are good quality. Inform people, and send those with a problem to rehab.
Things might be different where you're from, but here in the U.S. cops try to use killing as a last resort, even if the person in question is holding a deadly weapon. With that said, dealers and junkies would feel less inclined to be holding if they knew they could be rightously shot for not cooperating.

And wether or not drugs are legal, if I find anyone near my children holding or especially distributing, they will end up in the hospitol. I would much rather go to jail for manslaughter than for one of my kids, or any child for that matter, to get addicted.
 

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mrpenguinismyhomeboy said:
What do you think? Could this actually work?
Not really. Drugs will always be a problem, it's way too big of a business for it not to be. The best way to deal with drugs is the method being employed by my country, Canada. It is legal to have a small amount of marijuana (I think it's an ounce or less) for personal use. It is also legal to grow no more than three (3) pot plants in your house. Dealing is still illegal, but the penalties for first-timers and small-timers are lenient (just don't make a habit of it). Every other drug is very illegal in Canada, though in different parts of the country (BC comes to mind), hard drugs are still pretty rampant.