Poll: Nintendo's Quality In Consoles (i.e. Motion Controls and 3D)
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I approve as it helps push the industry as a whole. I would consider the wii to be the worst Nintendo console by far(against NES, SNES, 64, cube).
That being said, motion control golf, or FPS in my opinion is superior to other console or PC controls in my opinion. The system has a couple gems just like the DS.
I have absolutely no interest in the wii2 because of the wii, however, I look forward to how its release might impact and improve the industry as a whole.
That being said, motion control golf, or FPS in my opinion is superior to other console or PC controls in my opinion. The system has a couple gems just like the DS.
I have absolutely no interest in the wii2 because of the wii, however, I look forward to how its release might impact and improve the industry as a whole.
VikingSteve said:
I lol'd and this comment for 2 reasons 1) the argument in the console vs PC debate was that you didn't have to have cutting edge tech therefore you shouldn't care and 2) Xbox/ps3 tech is far older than 2006 and the Wii is closer to a Gamecube.
This. It appears the emphasis on "realism" came around the time of the current generation now that they've gotten to this point tech wise.starwarsgeek said:
- Define quality because, historically Nintendo has always been the most underpowered system in any game market. They seem to be catching up now though (slowly) to Sony and Microsoft, especially with their new high tech hand held 3DS and new console they're developing with an HD display.
- The N64 was never that good. It was dated, using cartridges which provided faster load times but couldn't efficiently carry as much data as a DVD (i'm just guessing on this actually but i'm pretty sure the DVD had a higher data amount). It also, graphically never looked as good as competing systems at the time, such as PS2, Xbox, Dreamcast, etc.
- Nintendo has also always had cutting edge game controller designs. They always use modern or new technologies and ergonomic setups, the wii mote being a cool idea. It was extremly useful with games such as Resident Evil 4, creating a feeling of immersion you didn't necessarily get with the laser sight/controller layout with PS2/Cube. Also, if you don't need motion controls you can plug in other peripherals and configure it as needed.
- Lastly, and kind of a personal rant of mine, but 3D adds 'depth' to a game. This presents a whole new way to present and manipulate media. I don't understand why people continue to view it as 'gimmicky'. /endrant
- Now.. whether 3D, motion controls and HD displays are good for marketing is another topic and question altogether. I'm only defending that Nintendo does seem to be improving the actual quality of their products slowly over time.
- The N64 was never that good. It was dated, using cartridges which provided faster load times but couldn't efficiently carry as much data as a DVD (i'm just guessing on this actually but i'm pretty sure the DVD had a higher data amount). It also, graphically never looked as good as competing systems at the time, such as PS2, Xbox, Dreamcast, etc.
- Nintendo has also always had cutting edge game controller designs. They always use modern or new technologies and ergonomic setups, the wii mote being a cool idea. It was extremly useful with games such as Resident Evil 4, creating a feeling of immersion you didn't necessarily get with the laser sight/controller layout with PS2/Cube. Also, if you don't need motion controls you can plug in other peripherals and configure it as needed.
- Lastly, and kind of a personal rant of mine, but 3D adds 'depth' to a game. This presents a whole new way to present and manipulate media. I don't understand why people continue to view it as 'gimmicky'. /endrant
- Now.. whether 3D, motion controls and HD displays are good for marketing is another topic and question altogether. I'm only defending that Nintendo does seem to be improving the actual quality of their products slowly over time.
After the Gamecube, Nintendo's standard quality in everything went right down the shitter.
I hate the Wii and the Wii-motes, if they made it so I could use the Gamecube controller for everything I wouldn't have such a problem with it. Just like Yahtzee, I don't want to be made to do little hand jigs to perform movements in the game, this doesn't help immerse me at all. Another thing that annoys me is that I need to buy battery's and many of them because this sucker uses 'em up in no time. And the thing I hate the most is it is no where as comfortable as the Gamecube controller and it isn't as flexible in-game either.
As for the 3DS and it's 3D gimmick, motion control and battery absorbing internet spyware, don't know, haven't played it yet. I'm not interested in buying one though.
I hate the Wii and the Wii-motes, if they made it so I could use the Gamecube controller for everything I wouldn't have such a problem with it. Just like Yahtzee, I don't want to be made to do little hand jigs to perform movements in the game, this doesn't help immerse me at all. Another thing that annoys me is that I need to buy battery's and many of them because this sucker uses 'em up in no time. And the thing I hate the most is it is no where as comfortable as the Gamecube controller and it isn't as flexible in-game either.
As for the 3DS and it's 3D gimmick, motion control and battery absorbing internet spyware, don't know, haven't played it yet. I'm not interested in buying one though.
Indeed, slowly. But I really think they should redo the gamecube, but make it really powerful. It was one of my favorite Nintendo systems of all time. Animal Crossing came out on it, a bunch of good Sonic games came out on it, Resident Evil... Yeah.Jfswift said:
A new GameCube would be great in my opinion. What do you think?
I've been a "fan" most my time as a gamer. Except for when I felt that they lost all sense with the N64, and the gamecube didn't win me back.Phoenix_XIII said:
It IS the base of modern controller design. But mostly because its design MAKES SENSE.VikingSteve said:
IMO Nintendo hasn't really done much of anything good since the SNES. My brother had an N64 I tried it out for a bit and decided to skip it and buy a PS. I had a Wii for a bit, when I got caught up in the gimmick. It faded soon after when I realized that the Wii only had 4 good games. I'm not writing them off completely....yet. I wanna give their next console a fair trial before I pass judgment. If it ends up sucking, I will have to suck it up and say goodbye to some of my favorites and write off Nintendo all together.
I love Nintendo, they are probably the only developers to take HUGE risks, the Wii could have been an epic failure, but instead nearly every household has one. Same with the Gameboy.
People can complain about the games all day and night, so what there isn't many hardcore titles, so what there are a dozen Mario/Sonic/Zelda/Metroid (etc) games, no one is forcing anyone to buy a Wii and play the games, if you don't like it, grow up and move on i say, their are 2 other consoles waiting for you.
As i said i love Nintendo, i love (most) of the games and if given the chance, i would be playing on the Wii a lot more than i do now. Plus they gave use Pokemon, That alone makes them awesome.
People can complain about the games all day and night, so what there isn't many hardcore titles, so what there are a dozen Mario/Sonic/Zelda/Metroid (etc) games, no one is forcing anyone to buy a Wii and play the games, if you don't like it, grow up and move on i say, their are 2 other consoles waiting for you.
As i said i love Nintendo, i love (most) of the games and if given the chance, i would be playing on the Wii a lot more than i do now. Plus they gave use Pokemon, That alone makes them awesome.
I always did like how small the gamecube was. It didn't suck up alot of counter space and it had pretty good graphic capabilities too. (animal crossing was fun too ^^ - truth be told, the only reason i bought it initially was for the free memory card).Phoenix_XIII said:
Animal Crossing was the single most addicting game I had. I was constantly buying and selling stuff to pay off my house, which when it finally was paid off, it felt so rewarding.Jfswift said:
Very true about Pokemon. XDDDarc1991 said:
But as time goes on, there's less ideas to use in new installments of the same old song and dance. Pokemon proved that unfortunately when they gave us a pokemon that looked like an Ice Cream Cone.
Nintendo really needs to take way more risks in game design and ideas.
As an RPG fan, nintendo failed me starting with the N64. As an RPG fan, any game that has alot of text and will take upward of 60 hours to beat should not be presented on a 2 inch screen that takes several batteries to power. Handheld systems are the WORST you could possibly put an RPG out on. I can also think of no situation where motion controls or 3D would be beneficial to the storytelling epics called RPGs.
It's a shame because the SNES was the king of the RPG, while the ONLY worthwhile RPG on a nintendo system since then was Tales of Symphonia. I just feel that it's a shame that the PS2 port of ToS never came out in the US.
It's a shame because the SNES was the king of the RPG, while the ONLY worthwhile RPG on a nintendo system since then was Tales of Symphonia. I just feel that it's a shame that the PS2 port of ToS never came out in the US.
Today in Walmart, I noticed several "Nintendo Selects" that were $20. One of them was the Wii Animal Crossing. For someone interested in the series, would you recommend picking that up for a slashed price or waiting for the 3DS one to come out?Phoenix_XIII said:
The 3DS has some of the most powerful processors I've seen in a handheld. Really great graphics capabilities and all. You can't sell that to most people, you can sell a 3D gimmick to most people. Not to mention it can do more than just the games all sorts of applications are being released for it.
The 3DS is a damned good handheld. By far beating out the PSP2/NGP.
The wii is a peice of poop. It was hardly a next gen console when it was brand new.
The 3DS is a damned good handheld. By far beating out the PSP2/NGP.
The wii is a peice of poop. It was hardly a next gen console when it was brand new.
I completely agree with two things Yahtzee said on the matter.
(paraphrased a bit)
1. "It is now apparent that motion controls are just something every console developer needs to get out of their system."
2. "Controllers have always been a perfectly good means to connect man to machine via way of thumb."
(paraphrased a bit)
1. "It is now apparent that motion controls are just something every console developer needs to get out of their system."
2. "Controllers have always been a perfectly good means to connect man to machine via way of thumb."
Taking a shot at Sony: They tried to succeed the PSP with the PSP Go. It failed miserably.shedra said: