Poll: No One I Know Likes Good Games

[sheah1]

I wouldn't say people don't accept my gaming, but I do agree with the point made in your post, so kind if a weird poll.

 

[DarklordKyo]

"Yea video games aren't supposed to have stories, it's stupid."

P-people like this actually exist?!

If you need me I'll be hiding in my cupboard away from society in order to get away from people like this.

Good video games need good stories. A video game without a story is just you pressing buttons to make your screen flash.


Most of the people I know that play games either just play CoD repeatedly or stick to games like Fifa. Every time they talk about CoD I have to hold myself back from calling it shit so as not to insult.

I'll probably snap one day.

They do exist, they're apparently called Sean Maelstrom

 

[LarenzoAOG]

It's really strange, but everyone I know either thinks video games are stupid, or they just like your standard popular ones like FIFA and Call of Duty. I don't understand it, there are so many good games out there, but for the most part the people I know are quick to call them shitty.

Case and point, my only friend that I would consider a gamer cam over to the apartment that I just started sharing with two friends. He started looking through my game collection and started rating my games, "Shit, shit, shit, shit, good, shit, good..." It just went on. The games that he called shitty were Blazblue, Naruto 2, Prince of Persia HD Trilogy, The Orange Box, and the God of War Collection, he pointed out more games but I think you get the point. The only games he called good were Black OPs and Assassin's Creed 2.

My two other friends in the apartment jumped in, one said, "Thank you, Alen (that's me) won't admit that his games suck. They are so boring," then the other said, "Yea video games aren't supposed to have stories, it's stupid."

At this point I get mad, I ask them why they think my games are bad. One said games are just toys not art, so they shouldn't bother us with any story telling. Another said that video games are for children, so why am I playing them in the first place. The worst offense of all came from the gamer, who said that anything that has cartoony graphics or is Japanese must suck, and when I pressed him on whether or not he played any of the games he called shit, he said no.

This is the world I live in. I wish I could say this is the exception but no, I have to get into arguments all the time defending myself because the people I know are ignorant about games. This is why I have always been a single player guy, I know nobody who sees games like I do.

My question is how do your peers, parents, essentially the people in your life treat gaming? For me, besides the point I stated above, it is perceived as a negative thing only children do.

No offense but I think your friends are just assholes.

OT: Dad actually plays alot of videogames, mostly RPGs, mom plays casual games and actually seems interested in the games I play, particularly Alan Wake, most of my friends are gamers, but a few are known to download their opinions from IGN and Gamesradar.

 

[DANCEMASTERAFRO]

It's all subjective man, I love COD I'd go so far as to say it's my favourite console game just because I'm pretty good at it and I always have fun when me and my buddies play it. I prefer the Infinity Ward COD's to the Treyarch ones because I find the Treyarch ones single player campaigns really lacking story wise and the multiplayer just not as fastpaced as the IW games. I like COD I'd say they are good games because I have as much fun playing the multiplayer as I do playing games like Bioshock, Fallout or WoW.

Everyone's got their own tastes and reasons to like what they like, people who quote critics or popular opinion as though it's fact shouldn't make your personal opinion invalid so I wouldn't be too bothered by your mates saying "Oh that's shit and this is shit", I get people saying COD is bad or WoW is bad but at the end of the day I have fun and I'm happier for spending my money on something I enjoy rather that what one person views as "good".

 

[floobie]

To me, there's very little difference between a good single player, story driven RPG, and a good book. I can get very emotionally involved in both.

There's a place for "toy" type games, which emphasize tactile/sensory stimulation more than anything else... but I don't get much out of them (save for a good racing sim). Just like I don't watch many pure action movies or comedies. They're fun, but only in the sort of "turn my brain off" sort of way. But that's just my preference. There's no shortage of good games out there, so the Call of Duty fans out there aren't really affecting my gaming experience in any way.

Fortunately, most of the people around me either understand my position but don't play games, or like the same types of games. Maybe the OP needs to get some better friends. I wouldn't want to deal with people who are so closed minded. I mean, they don't need to like the games I like... they just need to understand why I like them and not be a judgmental cock about it.

 

[The Breadcrab]

What utterly tasteless friends you have. What saddens me more is they didn't even try those games before denouncing them (very un-creatively if I might add). You honestly seem like the opposite type of person that your friend are, but if you like them then whatever. I personally could not stand having someone like that as a friend.

I see a story or at least a setting as a crucial aspect of a game. With the exception of games like Burnout and Stardust, a game needs to have some sort of story for me to keep playing. Otherwise I lose interest. Endless grinds like WoW or Farmville don't interest me for long because there is no strong goal to achieve other than "get stronger/wealthier/etc." And multiplayer games like Counter-Strike/TF2/Call of Duty/Battlefield/etc are definitely fun for awhile but after an hour I get bored. Story is a great tool for keeping people interested and could use attention than graphics and multiplayer.

 

[Gill Kaiser]

Call them "friggin casuals" and move on.

This.

 

[Innegativeion]

I'm one of those "extremely close, tight-knit group of best friends" kind of guys with a handful of gamers I hang out with mostly.

I have plenty of friends I talk to a lot, sure, but I don't really bring up my nerdiness or any game-related topics outside of my "inner circle" so to speak. It's a shame more people aren't interested in it around where I live. That's why I come to these forums. To talk games with like minded individuals.

 

[Azaraxzealot]

I read this and you're pretty much saying this. "Guys! My friends have different tastes in games to me, that sucks!".

My advice good sir, is to deal with it. People have different tastes.

ah, but there's a difference between "My friends have different tastes than me." and "My friends tell me my tastes and beliefs suck."

I was getting the latter from his description of his friends. It's one thing to have different tastes, it's another to tell people that what they believe in is stupid, because that only breeds ignorance and an overall worse perception of our Gaming Industry. To make video games (rather, interactive experiences) is to craft art, but people who just believe them to be toys are detrimental to people actually going ahead and giving developers this acknowledgement.

So yes, they have different tastes, but their beliefs are actually harmful to the perception of the gaming industry and we need to either educate them or badger them until they concede.

Ignorance is my pet peeve, and I try my best to destroy it by showing people there are games that exist beyond their electronic sports (I.E. FIFA and Cash-In of Duty). When the day comes that the crafting of video games is finally accepted as an art form, we know that those who sat around in their frat houses or mom's houses playing Cash-In of Duty convincing themselves that every other game in the world is stupid if it's not a bunch of shooting people down narrow corridors down a gunsight with an electronic sport to do afterwards are not the ones who helped, but actually slowed this process. The faster we educate them, the faster interactive electronic experiences can be taken seriously in the eyes of the public and become the accepted medium that it deserves to be.

See, the thing is, me and my friends actually tell eachother that what we like is crap all the time. Its not a big deal for me or them. To us its just how we are. I don't know anyone who's gaming sphere is just Fifa and COD (wonderful replacement of the name there by the way, by passively telling everyone COD is bad, if you can't tell that its sarcasm, well BLEH) and that's even with the most stubborn story hating game ignorant people I know.

You speak about it becoming an accepted medium, yet if we force games that they don't want to play down their throat, surely we'll just drive them away. Not that I really care on the whole "games must be accepted" debate, but its a fun counterpoint.

very true, but i'm not talking about cramming "good" games down their throat, i'm talking about educating them so that they don't see this medium as toys anymore but as an expression of a creator. no one looks at all film as just pictures that can move, or paintings as colors thrown onto something, it's time they stopped thinking games were toys.

 

[Mr.Squishy]

This thread is making me want to hurt people...a lot...

 

[legend of duty]

one gamer in my class didnt even know the bay of pigs actually happened and all he plays is COD and he's 15 thats scary!

 

[Drtfgf5]

Like when I play Halo: Reach and my friend is playing Call Of Duty: Black Ops, he always freaks out yelling "You f***ing retard that game sucks!"
and I reply "Deal with it."
That is all.

 

[NinjaDeathSlap]

I don't mind people liking thinks I don't like or visa-versa, even when it is for stupid reasons. People will have their own opinions and personal preferences and trying to change that is like trying to turn back the tide.

However, the one thing that does get my goat is when people will dismiss games that they haven't even played or seen so much as a full trailer for it with complete conviction and sincerity, just because its premise is different from what they're used to. I know you're not going to like everything you try but Jesus Christ people you're never going to know if you don't even try in the first place!

 

[Tibs]

Most people I know in real life are not interested in my kind of games, but they have no problem with the fact that I am a pretty solid gamer.

 

[MentalBakura]

"Yea video games aren't supposed to have stories, it's stupid."

I would find it incredibly difficult to maintain a straight face if I heard someone say this.

Most of my friends are gamers to some extent, and are all pretty open-minded about it. I don't really hear any crap like that.

 

[scorptatious]

I literally facepalmed at that one guy's statement about how games aren't supposed to have stories.

I could honestly care less about them playing Call of Duty and FIFA. Everyone has their own preferences in games. But saying that all Japanese games are shit and having no experience playing any of them is just plain ignorant.

OT: Yes, people around me for the most part accept my gaming. Hell, one time I was with my friends in college, I mentioned I played Portal 2 over the weekend, one of them gave me a high five. I was pleasantly surprised.

As for my parents, they don't care as long as I don't play for too long. As everything, well almost everything, is good in moderation. Besides, my mom claimed to have beaten the high score one time on Space Invaders, so I guess it would be hypocritical of her to say that games are evil or stupid.

 

[T8B95]

I miss the option "I don't care about other people's opinion about my gaming."

Have a drink on me, mate. That's exactly the thought that needs to go around more.

If your friends like your style of gaming, than good for them. If they don't, why should you give a toss, and more importantly, why do you think that we should give a toss? They're your friends after all.

OT: Most of my closest friends share the same opinion of me with games. Those who don't, well, I don't particularly care what they play. Their money, and their time.

 

[Sylveria]

People are stupid. If they weren't, EA, Blizzard, and Square would have gone out of business years ago.