Poll: Oh the HUMANITY!!!!

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AvsJoe

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I give when I want to, I keep when I want to. I'm altruistic at times, and at times I kick kittens (true story). I'm compassionate *and* cold-hearted. I am the definition of human. And so are you.

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JanatUrlich

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1: How altruistic are you? I'm not a very nice person
2: How altruistic is humanity as a whole? It's pretty shit really
3: Can people be 'taught' compassion? Would some sort of conditioning or rehab work? Nah I doubt it. I don't think it'd work for me, plus I don't really think we should start fucking around with people's minds/personalities.
 

Arkhangelsk

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I'm not that altruistic. I'll help someone close to me if they really need it. But I won't help people I don't know that much. If I have money over and shit, I may do it, but I see no benefit in it for me (yes, that was the most selfish statement ever and I hate myself). The only real scenario is if they really need it and have no other way than to ask for help, if circumstances got them down.
 

Akai Shizuku

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1: How altruistic are you?

As much as I'm capable of. I believe that virtue is its own reward.

2: How altruistic is humanity as a whole?

On the whole, not very. I do believe this can change, though.

3: Can people be 'taught' compassion? Would some sort of conditioning or rehab work?

Yes, they can. They need only see how compassion to others benefits them in turn. Conditioning or rehabilitation is not necessary, only education and information on the matter.
 

The_ModeRazor

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1. I help if I can, but I won't stop whatever I'm doing for someone else.
2. Not very much.
3. No way. People just want to be left alone. This would just cause them to be angry.
 

similar.squirrel

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I'd donate to animal shelters, but probably not to starving people. What starving people need to do is cut down on the ol' reproduction. Then I'll give them my money.
 

Zallest

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1. I hardly ever think of those living on the streets. I try to stay focused on my own life and goals.
2. As a single person without others to judge him a human can be cruel but i find people in groups can be more Altruistic, but no humans still aren't very compassionate.
3. Some people know compassion some don't, to try and 'teach' us that do not would be forcing it on us and you know how humans act when being forced to do what they do not...
 

Zac_Dai

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Look at all the bitter people in this thread.

I believe in what Ghandi said "Be the change you want to see in the world." and try to live my life by it.
 

Borrowed Time

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grimsprice said:
1. I do more then some, and less then some. I'm just as often giving my time to charity as I do my money. I've helped regularly with local soup kitchens, habitat for humanity as well as local city beautification. I refuse to give the random begger any cash though, but will offer them a sandwich. I will never put my own family at risk with my charity.

2. Humanity generally fails in a singular sense. Many people will give when kept in check by their peers in order to give the illusion that they are altruistic. Image is very important to the individual. As a whole though, I would hope that the mob would lean toward a more compassionate ideal, but that doesn't seem to be the case very often anymore.

3. No, just no. When do we draw the line in "teaching"? It will too soon become "you still refuse to think like us so you are outcast". At least that's what they would tell you. Most often the refusal to conform is met with much more then exile, and is in fact met with execution. If you eventually exile enough individuals, they can band against you and overthrow you. It is therefore in the interest of the preservation of society to instead execute or lock away the anomolies. (read anomolies as "those who don't agree") I will always be first in line to fight for an individuals right to disagree with me. I will even be first in line to fight for Akai's right to try to shove communism down my throat. The moment we cross that line otherwise is the moment we shackle ourselves into slavery.
 

TheRealCJ

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Souplex said:
My local hobos have solid gold top hats thanks to me.
You should proably spend more time, I don't know, feeding them rather than giving them heavy useless headgear.

But I'm sure they'll thank you when they've been stabbed for the peice of solid gold they carry around.
 

Neonbob

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Not at all.
And then:
No[sup]2[/sup]

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Can you tell how much I love you all?
 

grimsprice

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Neonbob said:
Not at all.
And then:
No[sup]2[/sup]

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Can you tell how much I love you all?
Socially psychotic as usual. Do you know how much money i would bet that you picked the 'i made the zippocat photos' option?
 

Neonbob

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grimsprice said:
Neonbob said:
Not at all.
And then:
No[sup]2[/sup]

...
Can you tell how much I love you all?
Socially psychotic as usual. Do you know how much money i would bet that you picked the 'i made the zippocat photos' option?
It's not my fault people are so easy to disdain!
..twenty bucks?
 

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1. Average, not altruistic enough
2. Average, but there is so much untapped potential
3. Yes, No
 

Sigel

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1)I tend to help out animals more than people because animals tend to be more loving and loyal. I have been burned to many times by my fellow human beings to really give a real damn about them anymore. It has been my observation, a lot of the time a person's situation is due to their own personal choices and decisions.

2)I don't know, maybe? I have never really thought about it on that scale before. Hmmm...dunno

3)Can you teach a person(s) compassion? I personally don't think so. I think you can show a person compassion. I think if you have it already, you can nurture it and make it grow, but I think most people let it wither and die because compassion is an act of generosity that gains them nothing.
 

Doclector

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1) I'd like to think I'm quite altruistic. In theory, I think if you can save someone easily with no risk to your own, or other's lives, and you don't try to save them, it's the same as murder, but at the same time, I understand in practice, it's probabally quite different.

2) Sorry to be pessimistic, but I don't think so. Look at the world. So much is so wrong. People are waging wars over matters of opinion, people are dying, starving, merely because they don't have enough money to pay for what they need to stay alive. Hell, not even on that scale. Ever noticed how messed up the employment system is? When you fill in an application form, and it says "why do you want to work for the company?" most people's true answer would be "Money", nothing wrong with that, gotta have money to live, gotta work for money. What's wrong, is that to stand a decent chance, you must lie and say you are really interested in spending the rest of your days working at a supermarket, and of course, if you do get through to interviews, then the lies just get deeper. The curious thing is, I'm sure employers know people lie, and yet those questions still go on the application form. This suggests, that maybe employers, to a certain extent, simply prefer those who find lying easy. Maybe so they can lie about the quality of a product, or so on. I don't know about you, but I find that slightly disgusting, disturbing even, that such a basic moral value as honesty has become of such little importance that it can even be a hinderance.

3) I quite frankly don't know.
 

grimsprice

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Akai Shizuku said:
1: How altruistic are you?

As much as I'm capable of. I believe that virtue is its own reward.

2: How altruistic is humanity as a whole?

On the whole, not very. I do believe this can change, though.

3: Can people be 'taught' compassion? Would some sort of conditioning or rehab work?

Yes, they can. They need only see how compassion to others benefits them in turn. Conditioning or rehabilitation is not necessary, only education and information on the matter.
I made this thread for you Akai as you can tell from the original post. I thought it might foster a little more discussion on teaching compassion thing... but i guess it's not really a debatable topic. There really isn't any research or study to back up either point. Oh well, best laid plans of mice you know?
 

Dogstile

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the only times i will be altruistic is if someones getting the crud kicked out of them by a group of people.

i may as well even up the odds