Poll: Ok anyone else think this is BS?
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While I personally think it's bullshit people get fined, if it's in their contract, they should pay the fine without complaining and we honestly shouldn't really care. If they signed the contract, they knew what they were getting into and they knew their obligations. I don't follow sports (e-sports or otherwise), but if the man signed the contract, he knew he had to talk to the media. If he didn't want to, he knew the consequences and should have to pay. There's no reason anyone should get riled up over a legal document that a grown adult signed.
Ugh. I get the whole contract thing and such, but this idea seems... Bad.
These people weren't hired to do media relations, they were hired for their ability to perform at whatever game it is they play.
Not everyone is a people person. And while some can deal with it easily enough, some others could find it really challenging.
And it's not really part of why they are there is it? It's not exactly in the job description... "Must be good at dealing with the media directly..."
It doesn't seem particularly right...
These people weren't hired to do media relations, they were hired for their ability to perform at whatever game it is they play.
Not everyone is a people person. And while some can deal with it easily enough, some others could find it really challenging.
And it's not really part of why they are there is it? It's not exactly in the job description... "Must be good at dealing with the media directly..."
It doesn't seem particularly right...
Well I guess if he signed a contract or something to talk to the media then yes he should be fined.
But the contract is still bullshit.
It annoys me how much celebrities are vilified for doing things that plenty of others get away with. Sure they may be a role model for some kids but that brings up the issue of proper parenting vs having society do it for you.
You notice the unfairness of it in Australia with how Footballers are treated in the media. Can't even have a one night stand without becoming public enemy number 1.
But the contract is still bullshit.
It annoys me how much celebrities are vilified for doing things that plenty of others get away with. Sure they may be a role model for some kids but that brings up the issue of proper parenting vs having society do it for you.
You notice the unfairness of it in Australia with how Footballers are treated in the media. Can't even have a one night stand without becoming public enemy number 1.
If I was being grossly over paid I would. I wouldn't even care what they said about me either. Football can hurt you sure, but the odds of them dieing and being permanently injured compared to a factory worker, or something similar are a lot less so that doesn't really matter.ecoho said:
I've had shit paying jobs where I've had to do horribly inane or stupid things because its part of the job requirements. Did I like it? No. Did I do them anyway? Yeah because I prefer to keep the money coming in rather than be fired. Its not even like he has to give a fucking speech, just "be available". What a fucking primadonna... getting paid way too damn much money to ***** about having to give an interview...
first off he's not making as much as your thinking, by football standards he's making crap money for what he does.Imperioratorex Caprae said:
second the media he's required to make himself available to constantly mock ,misquote, and try to humiliate him just to get a story, he's tired of it and I don't blame him. This guys not the fucking quarterback his JOB is not to talk to the press or be the face of the team its to run the dam ball!
once again hes not grossly over paid hes paid a lot less then most professional athletes.White Lightning said:
So? He still makes way more the he should, hell they all do. Just because a part of your job sucks doesn't mean you shouldn't have to do it.ecoho said:
...you're joking here, right?ecoho said:
The poor bastard ONLY has a $30 Million dollar contract for 4 years (with $17 million guaranteed and a $6 million signing bonus).
This makes him the fifth top paid [http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/rankings/cash/running-back/] running back in cash paid out to for 2014 (and that's just for what he does on the field; endorsements like his Skittles deal are not included in that number). I suppose he's only the 143rd highest paid NFL athlete but something tells me he's not going hungry at night.
Also, once again, it IS his job to talk to the media. You can say that it's not his job all you want but it is stated in his contract (like all NFL players) that one of their job requirements is to be available to talk to the media. Adrian Peterson has been the face of the Vikings for years; the best player on your team is usually going to end up being the "face" of the franchise and Lynch is (arguably) the best player on the Seahawks. A QB is the most likely person to be the face of your franchise since they are the most involved but the face can be anyone.
He's doing a job that millions of people would kill for (and I'm guessing a few of those would literally murder someone to get that kind of a job) and he has the audacity to ***** about having to do a few statements to the media? He's going to have to forgive me if I'm not outraged at the NFL for this transgression against him...
he like other is the league are forced to accept a BS clause in a contract they DID NOT SIGN! the fucking players union signed it and since no one can join without joining the union he kind of doesn't have a choice.tippy2k2 said:
ill concede to him being paid well while I don't think its enough to deal with the vultures they have covering these games but hey that's me. the point of this thread was not whether or not hes required to talk to the media but rather should he or anyone who plays professionally be required to talk to the media if they don't want to.
I understand what goes into playing football, how much you have to train daily, etc. My point is that he's got an obligation as a pro athlete to show some fucking integrity and live up to his contract. And if he and his peers don't like that, they're welcome to take that up with the league or get fined. Its not BS, its business and regardless of how far down the payscale he is, he's still making more than a lot of folks and talking to the press for a few moments is not a huge fucking inconvenience considering there's no required time he needs to spend.ecoho said:
And yes, according to the contract it IS his job. Fine print.
It's in their contract. If you're getting loads of money just to be a star and then refuse to do the star part, well sorry, don't sign the contract. I understand that he doesn't want to do it, but then he shouldn't have become a professional athlete and sign the contract. I know this might be a shock for some of you, but sports organization get money based on their popularity. Their popularity is directly linked to the player.
Sport is a business. A business made out of a popularity contest. I know, shocking, right?
The only reason why any sports exist is because it makes money. Interviews are there to keep it all relevant and interesting. Interviews are the second most important part in their career, right after betting grossly overpaid. When the athletes start getting paid as much as they should (far less than doctors, police, firemen... I will consider his cries, until then, he can wipe his tears with dollar bills he got for the interviews he refuses to do.
Sport is a business. A business made out of a popularity contest. I know, shocking, right?
The only reason why any sports exist is because it makes money. Interviews are there to keep it all relevant and interesting. Interviews are the second most important part in their career, right after betting grossly overpaid. When the athletes start getting paid as much as they should (far less than doctors, police, firemen... I will consider his cries, until then, he can wipe his tears with dollar bills he got for the interviews he refuses to do.
Am I missing something here? Sure it's stupid to be required to give interviews as part of their contract, but it is part of their contract. They had the choice to sign this agreement and all it stood for or give up their 6 or 7 figure salary for playing a game. Cry me a fucking river already. They are paid more than doctors and emergency personnel to play sports and this guy is getting fined for not talking to the press. That's hid choice and he has clearly made it.
*shrugs*
*shrugs*
I guess for me here, I have two primary issues with Lynch in particular that might help shed light on why I feel the way I do...ecoho said:
#1. I hate rich people complaining about how tough their lives are
#2. To me, his complaining now is kind of two-faced. He had no problems doing the interviews and getting his name out there BEFORE he got his big paycheck and BEFORE he got all the endorsements (endorsements you get by being good AND by getting your name out there; something those post-game activities get you). Now that he's gotten pretty much everything out of doing the post-game interviews and whatnot he's going to get, NOW all of a sudden he's become this reserved and shy guy who doesn't like doing interviews...
I do get that, but imagine that was the case in any other job, when I go to work, if I don't fulfill my contractual obligations then my employer has to take action in line with their policy, and I could even get fired, but they wouldn't be able to fine be for it. In my opinion, no employer should be able to level a fine against an employee.ffronw said:
The fine is also astronomical for what it is: James Harrison made illegal hits to the head and committed horsecollar tackles constantly but was never fined more than 25,000 at once. Lynch is getting fined 50,000 twice for not talking to the media.ffronw said:
Everything about the NFL is BS these days. I'm calling it now, the NFL's golden days have come and gone and it's getting ready to go the way of Professional Wrestling in which the vast majority of people just stop caring. Between all the player scandals and other drama (The Patriots just got caught cheating...again...I hope their wrists are ready for a little slap), I know that I personally, at the very least, really don't care all that much about any of it anymore.
Edit: Sorry, forgot to actually answer the question at hand.
Anyways, if it's in the CBA contract that they have to talk to the media or be fined...then yes, I'd imagine they very well should be fined for not speaking with the media. You can say it's a BS clause in the contract, but that doesn't change the fact that it is in the contract.
Edit: Sorry, forgot to actually answer the question at hand.
Anyways, if it's in the CBA contract that they have to talk to the media or be fined...then yes, I'd imagine they very well should be fined for not speaking with the media. You can say it's a BS clause in the contract, but that doesn't change the fact that it is in the contract.
You're already better than our last manager, I mean you have a post count!ffronw said:
OT: Seems a bit mad to me, b ut as has been stated it is in their contract and they did sign that contract.
