Poll: OK apple, your touch-sensitive stuff has crossed a line.

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Kaymish

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im very violent with my mice that one looks like it needs some finesse to use it it would probably frustrate me in 30 seconds when it does the wrong thing

though it does have one thing going for it ... it looks really cool
 

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It looks like it could be a successful idea.
I generally don't have much experience with apple products, save for the iPod, out of an unwillingness to learn a completely different UI.

This mouse seems simple enough though. It does everything a regular mouse does, just without the buttons. Having said that, I probably still wouldn't use it, I prefer my mouse to have lots of extra buttons that I can hotkey for when I'm gaming.
 

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This is a prime example of why I hate Macs. Apple just tries to be too innovative and improve on things that don't need improving. I really don't see how this would really be useful, it makes me thing of what would happen if a tablet and a mouse had a baby.
 

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Well, I really don't think this is going to work. A mouse is to click. Its kind of like giving you a sword and telling you to use it to scrape teeeth.

That's my analogy, anyways.
 

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GAH! WTF! MY HAND ISN'T SHAPED LIKE THAT!!

Apple, you've done it again. You've failed to take into account that the people you want to buy your garbage are HUMANS and not MUTANT FISH PEOPLE!!
 
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My mouse has
1. click
2. right click
3. scroll up
4. scroll down
5. scroll left
6. scroll right
7. scroll wheel click
8. media player
9. play/pause
10. volume up
11. volume down
12. skip forward
13. skip back
14. browser forward
15. browser back
16. a friggin LASER
17. wirelessness

I could have said this more succinctly, but I'm taking a page from Steve Jobs. If there are 200,000 iPhone games, then my mouse has 17 features. It also looks like a piece of electronic equipment, not an elephant's pregnancy test. And it glows a rather fetching shade of blue. I win.

PS - I bought it in 2003. Logitech must have a time machine on hand.
 

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Clashero said:
It looks like the case I used to put my glasses in.
Me? I'd never buy it. Apple stuff is pretty, but that's it. For the price of a Macbook you can get a much better HP laptop. For the price of an iPod, you can get a Creative Zen (superior in every way except design).
I agree with all that bar the Ipod bit.

Apple's stuff is just...I dunno, it's unwanted.
They should stick to MP3 players and phones in my opinion.
 

duchaked

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I use Apple products when I can
I guess I'm not nerdy enough to go into the deep arguments of it all
I mean...really, I use laptops for homework and basis usage
not for programming or the nitty gritty
sorry...lol I have friends
no I kid 0=)
(I know several tech savvy adamant PC users and they're not friendless nerds...just nerds...lol tho they call me the gaming nerd so it's only fair)
 

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I think the Magic Mouse looks pretty good actually, it looks smooth and intuative to use. But it would almost certainly be too fragile and expensive for my tastes, why the hell would people need a mouse like that? It offers next to no additional features.
 

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Do you use it like an actually mouse?

or do just move your finger around it? (cramps)
 

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VicunaBlue said:
I just came across this while looking at apples home page. I'll admit that I've never been a fan of apple's one-button mouse, but this one has NO buttons. While I'm sure that apple has come up with some soon-to-be quoted as "Innovative" or "Elegant" way of letting you know when you clicked something, I have a feeling that you'll end up breaking it if you try to use it to do ANYTHING besides facebook with it.

Also, looking at the pictures, this looks like it could be very uncomfortable to hold. While I'm not usually one to whine about ergonomics, this looks like it could get sweaty, like gatorade commercial sweaty, if you use it for more than ten minutes. I'm wondering if I'm crazy, or if anyone else dislikes the idea. If you do think that this is a wonderful mouse, please share.

http://www.apple.com/magicmouse/
I've got a no-button mouse on my Mac:



Perfectly, fine.

If I need finer control I use my Wacom A4 graphics tablet with pressure/tilt-sensitive stylus. Nice for drawing circles with.

I do worry that this new Apple mouse would activate on any contact (say, moving your hand back to rest on it after doing some typing), which would be highly undesirable as it would necessitate flexing your fingers upward against their joints to keep them from activating whatever the pointer happened to be over - a recipe for RSI there. I'll have to try one out.

Maybe they have it so that it ignores a click when the keyboard has been used (i.e. the pointer is normally hidden to avoid obscuring text), thus requiring you to move the mouse a bit to reinstate the pointer before the surface becomes active again. Then, if you are in contact with the surface before moving the mouse again it will ignore that as a click event until you lift-off and do so deliberately.

Personally, I feel a hybrid mechanical levered mouse would have been better. My no-button mouse levers the entire top shell to actuate a click. Then you could make an easy to avoid area for the right mouse button, which I need to be able to be used independently of click as well as a "chord-click" - i.e. R & L click. The scrolling, page navigation and zooming features are all fine and should interoperate with this as a diagonal drag from this top right corner (for R) wouldn't be seen as a click unless the mouse also moved - i.e. a context menu would be summoned by holding this area with your middle finger and moving the mouse down.

Still, this could all backfire quite badly for Apple. At least the OS supports every mouse (and PC wheel mouse) I've ever plugged in, so it won't ruin the system. I wouldn't buy it because it needs batteries.

I like what they've done with the new iMacs, they could probably run Crysis quite well now - I'll have to check YouTube for some demos...
 

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Thaius said:
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Am I the only one who see this thread as yet more ignorant Mac-hate?
Yes, because I am many things.
But ignorant is not one of them.
I'm not saying that every single person who dislikes Mac is ignorant: rather, it seems that most people here simply look at the picture and decide they know everything about it. But really, unless you read what they say about how it works (and for that matter, unless you've used the Macbook touchpads), you have no idea about how good of an idea it is.

Besides, the fact is that most people I've talked to who hate Macs are overwhelmingly ignorant about them. Thus, I've come to the conclusion that most people have no basis behind their Mac-hate beyond their own defensive and incomplete reasoning in a desperate attempt to defend Windows, the only OS they've truly known. Not everyone, but most people I've talked to, both online and off.
(Psssst I'm not the one-button guy [but those things were annoying as hell when they lasted])

What I think is funny is that my mouse has more functions than theirs, but yet they claim it does more than any mouse ever.
(It doesn't even have back/forward buttons functionality! I would die without those!)
Yeah, I noticed that you weren't the OP and fixed it in an edit. Kind of assumed since I quoted him and you responded so quickly. My bad. :p But yeah, the one-button thing was annoying: the right-click is honestly the only innovation I'll actually give Microsoft credit for. Pretty much everything else was done by Mac 5-10 years earlier (I'm looking at you, Windows 7).

Like any Apple product, this mouse is a matter of a smooth, elegant experience. They're not trying to pass it off as a gaming mouse, though I'm sure with the right program or drivers it could pass as one (something I definitely wouldn't judge the quality of until I see it: it has potential, but could also be awkward). Point is, I think for just normal computer functionality, this would work great. It has a heck of a lot more features than your average mouse (please people, stop saying it can't scroll or right-click: it can, look at the freaking page): not your average gaming mouse, mind you, but your average mouse (which is a lot more relevant to your average computer user).

Also, to those who say Mac innovates too often, are you really so content with where you are right now? There's nothing wrong with innovation, no matter how often or how much. Seems to me that by saying "what I have works fine, why does Apple keep making these things" is a sign of contentment, a lack of willingness or motivation to move forward. And when we no longer wish to make things better, humanity will be held back by its own incompetence.
I would still die without back/forward buttons. (Or functionality...because this mouse doesn't have buttons.)
Watch the video. It doesn't have obvious buttons, but it can right-click, it can scroll, it can select, it can zoom: it can do everything a typical mouse can and more. Again, it's not a gaming mouse, but it has more than your average computer user needs.
But it still doesn't have back/forwards.
 

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When I read the title, I thought they invented a mouse shaped like a vagina.

Upon seeing the pic, I think I'm still right.
 

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KaiRai said:
They should stick to MP3 players and phones in my opinion.
i want apple computers. i had a desktop mac for the last several years and i just replaced it with a new apple laptop. the people i know who are devoted to PCs know a lot about computers and how to make their PC work for them, and that's all well and good, but as far as I know computers run completely on magic and good thoughts, and i want something that will work well for over five years without me ever having to do anything to it.
 

Thaius

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Berethond said:
Thaius said:
Berethond said:
Thaius said:
Berethond said:
Thaius said:
Berethond said:
Thaius said:
Am I the only one who see this thread as yet more ignorant Mac-hate?
Yes, because I am many things.
But ignorant is not one of them.
I'm not saying that every single person who dislikes Mac is ignorant: rather, it seems that most people here simply look at the picture and decide they know everything about it. But really, unless you read what they say about how it works (and for that matter, unless you've used the Macbook touchpads), you have no idea about how good of an idea it is.

Besides, the fact is that most people I've talked to who hate Macs are overwhelmingly ignorant about them. Thus, I've come to the conclusion that most people have no basis behind their Mac-hate beyond their own defensive and incomplete reasoning in a desperate attempt to defend Windows, the only OS they've truly known. Not everyone, but most people I've talked to, both online and off.
(Psssst I'm not the one-button guy [but those things were annoying as hell when they lasted])

What I think is funny is that my mouse has more functions than theirs, but yet they claim it does more than any mouse ever.
(It doesn't even have back/forward buttons functionality! I would die without those!)
Yeah, I noticed that you weren't the OP and fixed it in an edit. Kind of assumed since I quoted him and you responded so quickly. My bad. :p But yeah, the one-button thing was annoying: the right-click is honestly the only innovation I'll actually give Microsoft credit for. Pretty much everything else was done by Mac 5-10 years earlier (I'm looking at you, Windows 7).

Like any Apple product, this mouse is a matter of a smooth, elegant experience. They're not trying to pass it off as a gaming mouse, though I'm sure with the right program or drivers it could pass as one (something I definitely wouldn't judge the quality of until I see it: it has potential, but could also be awkward). Point is, I think for just normal computer functionality, this would work great. It has a heck of a lot more features than your average mouse (please people, stop saying it can't scroll or right-click: it can, look at the freaking page): not your average gaming mouse, mind you, but your average mouse (which is a lot more relevant to your average computer user).

Also, to those who say Mac innovates too often, are you really so content with where you are right now? There's nothing wrong with innovation, no matter how often or how much. Seems to me that by saying "what I have works fine, why does Apple keep making these things" is a sign of contentment, a lack of willingness or motivation to move forward. And when we no longer wish to make things better, humanity will be held back by its own incompetence.
I would still die without back/forward buttons. (Or functionality...because this mouse doesn't have buttons.)
Watch the video. It doesn't have obvious buttons, but it can right-click, it can scroll, it can select, it can zoom: it can do everything a typical mouse can and more. Again, it's not a gaming mouse, but it has more than your average computer user needs.
But it still doesn't have back/forwards.
I've actually never seen that feature on a mouse. What exactly is is supposed to do?
 

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Typical for Apple marketing garbage as gold. I already thought their one-button mice were bad enough but a mouse without any buttons at all, oh please. Looking at the concept it doesn't seem like you can do anything serious with it.
 

Latinidiot

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it's beautiful, but not very handy. a bit like a segway. i'm guessing it's also FUCKING expensive.
 

Berethond

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Thaius said:
Berethond said:
Thaius said:
Berethond said:
Thaius said:
Berethond said:
Thaius said:
Berethond said:
Thaius said:
Am I the only one who see this thread as yet more ignorant Mac-hate?
Yes, because I am many things.
But ignorant is not one of them.
I'm not saying that every single person who dislikes Mac is ignorant: rather, it seems that most people here simply look at the picture and decide they know everything about it. But really, unless you read what they say about how it works (and for that matter, unless you've used the Macbook touchpads), you have no idea about how good of an idea it is.

Besides, the fact is that most people I've talked to who hate Macs are overwhelmingly ignorant about them. Thus, I've come to the conclusion that most people have no basis behind their Mac-hate beyond their own defensive and incomplete reasoning in a desperate attempt to defend Windows, the only OS they've truly known. Not everyone, but most people I've talked to, both online and off.
(Psssst I'm not the one-button guy [but those things were annoying as hell when they lasted])

What I think is funny is that my mouse has more functions than theirs, but yet they claim it does more than any mouse ever.
(It doesn't even have back/forward buttons functionality! I would die without those!)
Yeah, I noticed that you weren't the OP and fixed it in an edit. Kind of assumed since I quoted him and you responded so quickly. My bad. :p But yeah, the one-button thing was annoying: the right-click is honestly the only innovation I'll actually give Microsoft credit for. Pretty much everything else was done by Mac 5-10 years earlier (I'm looking at you, Windows 7).

Like any Apple product, this mouse is a matter of a smooth, elegant experience. They're not trying to pass it off as a gaming mouse, though I'm sure with the right program or drivers it could pass as one (something I definitely wouldn't judge the quality of until I see it: it has potential, but could also be awkward). Point is, I think for just normal computer functionality, this would work great. It has a heck of a lot more features than your average mouse (please people, stop saying it can't scroll or right-click: it can, look at the freaking page): not your average gaming mouse, mind you, but your average mouse (which is a lot more relevant to your average computer user).

Also, to those who say Mac innovates too often, are you really so content with where you are right now? There's nothing wrong with innovation, no matter how often or how much. Seems to me that by saying "what I have works fine, why does Apple keep making these things" is a sign of contentment, a lack of willingness or motivation to move forward. And when we no longer wish to make things better, humanity will be held back by its own incompetence.
I would still die without back/forward buttons. (Or functionality...because this mouse doesn't have buttons.)
Watch the video. It doesn't have obvious buttons, but it can right-click, it can scroll, it can select, it can zoom: it can do everything a typical mouse can and more. Again, it's not a gaming mouse, but it has more than your average computer user needs.
But it still doesn't have back/forwards.
I've actually never seen that feature on a mouse. What exactly is is supposed to do?
Really? Never?
Back/forward buttons for your browser, Windows explorer, stuff like that. You know what I mean?
Those arrow in the top left but on a mouse.