I agree with all that bar the Ipod bit.Clashero said:It looks like the case I used to put my glasses in.
Me? I'd never buy it. Apple stuff is pretty, but that's it. For the price of a Macbook you can get a much better HP laptop. For the price of an iPod, you can get a Creative Zen (superior in every way except design).
I've got a no-button mouse on my Mac:VicunaBlue said:I just came across this while looking at apples home page. I'll admit that I've never been a fan of apple's one-button mouse, but this one has NO buttons. While I'm sure that apple has come up with some soon-to-be quoted as "Innovative" or "Elegant" way of letting you know when you clicked something, I have a feeling that you'll end up breaking it if you try to use it to do ANYTHING besides facebook with it.
Also, looking at the pictures, this looks like it could be very uncomfortable to hold. While I'm not usually one to whine about ergonomics, this looks like it could get sweaty, like gatorade commercial sweaty, if you use it for more than ten minutes. I'm wondering if I'm crazy, or if anyone else dislikes the idea. If you do think that this is a wonderful mouse, please share.
http://www.apple.com/magicmouse/
But it still doesn't have back/forwards.Thaius said:Watch the video. It doesn't have obvious buttons, but it can right-click, it can scroll, it can select, it can zoom: it can do everything a typical mouse can and more. Again, it's not a gaming mouse, but it has more than your average computer user needs.Berethond said:I would still die without back/forward buttons. (Or functionality...because this mouse doesn't have buttons.)Thaius said:Yeah, I noticed that you weren't the OP and fixed it in an edit. Kind of assumed since I quoted him and you responded so quickly. My bad.Berethond said:(Psssst I'm not the one-button guy [but those things were annoying as hell when they lasted])Thaius said:I'm not saying that every single person who dislikes Mac is ignorant: rather, it seems that most people here simply look at the picture and decide they know everything about it. But really, unless you read what they say about how it works (and for that matter, unless you've used the Macbook touchpads), you have no idea about how good of an idea it is.Berethond said:Yes, because I am many things.Thaius said:Am I the only one who see this thread as yet more ignorant Mac-hate?
But ignorant is not one of them.
Besides, the fact is that most people I've talked to who hate Macs are overwhelmingly ignorant about them. Thus, I've come to the conclusion that most people have no basis behind their Mac-hate beyond their own defensive and incomplete reasoning in a desperate attempt to defend Windows, the only OS they've truly known. Not everyone, but most people I've talked to, both online and off.
What I think is funny is that my mouse has more functions than theirs, but yet they claim it does more than any mouse ever.
(It doesn't even have back/forwardbuttonsfunctionality! I would die without those!)But yeah, the one-button thing was annoying: the right-click is honestly the only innovation I'll actually give Microsoft credit for. Pretty much everything else was done by Mac 5-10 years earlier (I'm looking at you, Windows 7).
Like any Apple product, this mouse is a matter of a smooth, elegant experience. They're not trying to pass it off as a gaming mouse, though I'm sure with the right program or drivers it could pass as one (something I definitely wouldn't judge the quality of until I see it: it has potential, but could also be awkward). Point is, I think for just normal computer functionality, this would work great. It has a heck of a lot more features than your average mouse (please people, stop saying it can't scroll or right-click: it can, look at the freaking page): not your average gaming mouse, mind you, but your average mouse (which is a lot more relevant to your average computer user).
Also, to those who say Mac innovates too often, are you really so content with where you are right now? There's nothing wrong with innovation, no matter how often or how much. Seems to me that by saying "what I have works fine, why does Apple keep making these things" is a sign of contentment, a lack of willingness or motivation to move forward. And when we no longer wish to make things better, humanity will be held back by its own incompetence.
i want apple computers. i had a desktop mac for the last several years and i just replaced it with a new apple laptop. the people i know who are devoted to PCs know a lot about computers and how to make their PC work for them, and that's all well and good, but as far as I know computers run completely on magic and good thoughts, and i want something that will work well for over five years without me ever having to do anything to it.KaiRai said:They should stick to MP3 players and phones in my opinion.
I've actually never seen that feature on a mouse. What exactly is is supposed to do?Berethond said:But it still doesn't have back/forwards.Thaius said:Watch the video. It doesn't have obvious buttons, but it can right-click, it can scroll, it can select, it can zoom: it can do everything a typical mouse can and more. Again, it's not a gaming mouse, but it has more than your average computer user needs.Berethond said:I would still die without back/forward buttons. (Or functionality...because this mouse doesn't have buttons.)Thaius said:Yeah, I noticed that you weren't the OP and fixed it in an edit. Kind of assumed since I quoted him and you responded so quickly. My bad.Berethond said:(Psssst I'm not the one-button guy [but those things were annoying as hell when they lasted])Thaius said:I'm not saying that every single person who dislikes Mac is ignorant: rather, it seems that most people here simply look at the picture and decide they know everything about it. But really, unless you read what they say about how it works (and for that matter, unless you've used the Macbook touchpads), you have no idea about how good of an idea it is.Berethond said:Yes, because I am many things.Thaius said:Am I the only one who see this thread as yet more ignorant Mac-hate?
But ignorant is not one of them.
Besides, the fact is that most people I've talked to who hate Macs are overwhelmingly ignorant about them. Thus, I've come to the conclusion that most people have no basis behind their Mac-hate beyond their own defensive and incomplete reasoning in a desperate attempt to defend Windows, the only OS they've truly known. Not everyone, but most people I've talked to, both online and off.
What I think is funny is that my mouse has more functions than theirs, but yet they claim it does more than any mouse ever.
(It doesn't even have back/forwardbuttonsfunctionality! I would die without those!)But yeah, the one-button thing was annoying: the right-click is honestly the only innovation I'll actually give Microsoft credit for. Pretty much everything else was done by Mac 5-10 years earlier (I'm looking at you, Windows 7).
Like any Apple product, this mouse is a matter of a smooth, elegant experience. They're not trying to pass it off as a gaming mouse, though I'm sure with the right program or drivers it could pass as one (something I definitely wouldn't judge the quality of until I see it: it has potential, but could also be awkward). Point is, I think for just normal computer functionality, this would work great. It has a heck of a lot more features than your average mouse (please people, stop saying it can't scroll or right-click: it can, look at the freaking page): not your average gaming mouse, mind you, but your average mouse (which is a lot more relevant to your average computer user).
Also, to those who say Mac innovates too often, are you really so content with where you are right now? There's nothing wrong with innovation, no matter how often or how much. Seems to me that by saying "what I have works fine, why does Apple keep making these things" is a sign of contentment, a lack of willingness or motivation to move forward. And when we no longer wish to make things better, humanity will be held back by its own incompetence.
Really? Never?Thaius said:I've actually never seen that feature on a mouse. What exactly is is supposed to do?Berethond said:But it still doesn't have back/forwards.Thaius said:Watch the video. It doesn't have obvious buttons, but it can right-click, it can scroll, it can select, it can zoom: it can do everything a typical mouse can and more. Again, it's not a gaming mouse, but it has more than your average computer user needs.Berethond said:I would still die without back/forward buttons. (Or functionality...because this mouse doesn't have buttons.)Thaius said:Yeah, I noticed that you weren't the OP and fixed it in an edit. Kind of assumed since I quoted him and you responded so quickly. My bad.Berethond said:(Psssst I'm not the one-button guy [but those things were annoying as hell when they lasted])Thaius said:I'm not saying that every single person who dislikes Mac is ignorant: rather, it seems that most people here simply look at the picture and decide they know everything about it. But really, unless you read what they say about how it works (and for that matter, unless you've used the Macbook touchpads), you have no idea about how good of an idea it is.Berethond said:Yes, because I am many things.Thaius said:Am I the only one who see this thread as yet more ignorant Mac-hate?
But ignorant is not one of them.
Besides, the fact is that most people I've talked to who hate Macs are overwhelmingly ignorant about them. Thus, I've come to the conclusion that most people have no basis behind their Mac-hate beyond their own defensive and incomplete reasoning in a desperate attempt to defend Windows, the only OS they've truly known. Not everyone, but most people I've talked to, both online and off.
What I think is funny is that my mouse has more functions than theirs, but yet they claim it does more than any mouse ever.
(It doesn't even have back/forwardbuttonsfunctionality! I would die without those!)But yeah, the one-button thing was annoying: the right-click is honestly the only innovation I'll actually give Microsoft credit for. Pretty much everything else was done by Mac 5-10 years earlier (I'm looking at you, Windows 7).
Like any Apple product, this mouse is a matter of a smooth, elegant experience. They're not trying to pass it off as a gaming mouse, though I'm sure with the right program or drivers it could pass as one (something I definitely wouldn't judge the quality of until I see it: it has potential, but could also be awkward). Point is, I think for just normal computer functionality, this would work great. It has a heck of a lot more features than your average mouse (please people, stop saying it can't scroll or right-click: it can, look at the freaking page): not your average gaming mouse, mind you, but your average mouse (which is a lot more relevant to your average computer user).
Also, to those who say Mac innovates too often, are you really so content with where you are right now? There's nothing wrong with innovation, no matter how often or how much. Seems to me that by saying "what I have works fine, why does Apple keep making these things" is a sign of contentment, a lack of willingness or motivation to move forward. And when we no longer wish to make things better, humanity will be held back by its own incompetence.