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CIA

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Abedeus said:
Nope, sorry. You are confusing checkpoint-only system (pretty much every single console game... none of them let you save whenever you want, MAYBE some exceptions) with games with the manual saving PLUS auto-save for the lazy/forgetful people.
Yes. The checkpoint plus system. I understand that. It has checkpoints. Are you being this dense on purpose? Did you play any of the games listed?

Do you really think that being influenced by something means to copy it completely?

Name me an RPG that has a checkpoint system, and I'll show you a game made after 2001.
 

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Lol, of all the boards to say 'Halo changed the face of gaming' on, the OP chose the escapist. Thats brilliant.

Gotta say guys I love retro gaming especially around the SNES to PS1 era but you have to look at it objectivley. Yeah there are games today that suck but at their most basic they are at least functional and if they are broken than they are more likely to be to easy due to a glitch you can exploit rather than being ridiculously broken and nigh on impossible like SNES and especially NES era games.

I dunno just a few thoughts, I guess Im saying yeah games back then were great but I cant deny that the overall quality is better now.
 

Abedeus

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CIA said:
Abedeus said:
Nope, sorry. You are confusing checkpoint-only system (pretty much every single console game... none of them let you save whenever you want, MAYBE some exceptions) with games with the manual saving PLUS auto-save for the lazy/forgetful people.
Yes. The checkpoint plus system. I understand that. It has checkpoints. Are you being this dense on purpose? Did you play any of the games listed?

Do you really think that being influenced by something means to copy it completely?

Name me an RPG that has a checkpoint system, and I'll show you a game made after 2001.
...Gah... WHICH ONE WAS FIRST - CHECKPOINTS OF MANUAL SAVES?!

I'll answer it - MANUAL SAVES!! Adventure games very early started using saved games to avoid sitting for 7-8 hours straight, with a guide book on the side... Hell, the first "saved game" was the unforgettable "write down the password to go to this and this level". It wasn't "saved" game per se, but one step below the manual saving system.

Then, because some people found it to be easier to just save it on the crucial moments, plus the manual saves (FPS games and RPGs), they added auto-saving to games. Then, because consoles were a bit lacking in the "saving" department, they got rid of the manual saves in favor of checkpoints.

RPG with a checkpoint system? By your definition, every single RPG ever made, since you think that checkpoint = auto-save.

...Seriously, the issue was - Xbox is not old, your definition of old is faulty because your assumptions that Halo = revolution is faulty.

Your whole argument is faulty. Stop being wrong.
 

Orcus The Ultimate

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I think the linegap would be 2001 before it were the "Old Games", and afterwards came the "New games" like UT2004 etc with polished graphics...
 

Shycte

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Fredrick2003 said:
Shycte said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
New games!

They don't have archaic "Lives" systems. Usually.

And the Pokemon games get better every time, too! Well, the gameplay at least. The pokemon designs are horrid.
I might agree that the technical wonders of the DS have given the newer games some kind of improvment but I still think it was better with 4 stats then having to care about IV, natural stats, special EVERYTHING and that shit.

Simple is the best.

Anyway, It depends on the game ofcourse. Some games wher shitty then, some games are shitty now.
Its not so much that the IVs and stuff are bad, its that the game never mentions them or allows you see it and compare it with other stats in any way, its like the developers are hiding something from you.

Regarding the topic, if the diving line is set at Halo (which came out in 2001) I would have to say "older games" because I have a hell of a lot more to choose from.
It doesn't? I thought it did :O

Btw, you name is sexy.
 

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Mackheath said:
Dr. Danger said:
Mackheath said:
Onyx Oblivion said:
New games!

They don't have archaic "Lives" systems. Usually.

And the Pokemon games get better every time, too! Well, the gameplay at least. The pokemon designs are horrid.
Pokémon itself is now horrid; especially Hoenn. RIP Pokémon Johto and Kanto-you will be missed...

What? Have you not played SoulSilver or HeartGold? They are a vast improvement to GSC. I only wish I could have played them first.

As for new versus old. I tend to go for newer games because I'm shallow a graphics snob.
No, and I don't want to. To me Gold was perfect the way it was. I fail to see why a graphical update and being able to use 3rd and 4th gen Pokémon make the game better.

Sorry, but I look upon Gold with the rose-tinted specs.
There is so much more to SoulSilver and HeartGold than a graphical update and added Pokemon.

As much as I respect loyalty, I hope you'll give it a chance in the future.