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hyker

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million x million, but in hungary we rarely use it, we usually say a hundredmilliard, and milliard is ten on the power of nine
 

The Lunatic

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The British way makes more sense to me logically, however, in terms of speech, the American way is easier on the tongue.

Either way, it's a number too big to have much use in day to day life.
 

LitleWaffle

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I've learned it to be 1000 x 1 million to be 1 billion. Never even heard otherwise... huh.

You would think I would hear about something like this in school, but I never did/do/probably will.

Way to keep me isolated, eh America?
 

Coldie

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JinxyKatte said:
Does anyone know off the top of their heads what

10 to the power of 1(insert 100 0's here) is

The resulting number is so large you could not actually write it down in full over the length of the universe. Apparently.
1 with a hundred zeroes is called Googol, 10[sup]100[/sup]. It's fairly big and has a silly name.
10 to the power of Googol is called Googolplex, 10[sup]googol[/sup]. It's quite big, but nothing particularly exceptional. Mostly famous because it has a lot of zeroes and a funny name.

There are many other big and fancy numbers, but I don't think they deal with so many zeroes in one place. Which a Billion has 9 of.
 

Brandon237

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ChocoFace said:
12 zeroes for a billion? that's messed up.
1000 x million is the right way, of course.
It is messed up, my friend and I had an interesting conversation... until we realised we were working with 2 different numbers :p
And isn't 12 zeros a trillion?
 

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maninahat said:
You think that's crazy? Go to China or India, and you'll find they do big numbers in groups of four, producing numbesr that look like this: 1,00,00,000 etc, as opposed to 10,000,000). Look up the Indian "Crore".
This is true.........and It's ANNOYING.
No scratch that, it's fucking Goddamned Annoying. As in, to the point that I refuse to do any math in my native language (should math even HAVE a language?)

Also, it's not just in China and India, it's in a few other South Asian countries like mine and Thailand.etc.

OT: I always use Billion as 1000 million. Didn't know there were different versions. What do Britons call 1,000,000,000 then?
 

Hawgh

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1.000.000 = million.
1.000.000.000.000 = billion (milliard).
1.000.000.000.000.000.000 = trillion.
1.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 = quadrillion.
 

Plurralbles

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so there isn't even remotely close to 6 billion people in the world by the UK model...

That's retarded.

How do they even function being that garbage and just giving things arbitrary definitions... the rest of the english speaking world makes sense.

Glad they've been okay since 1975
 

Johnlives

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Being British, I should apparently say it a million million, but as a scientist it's always going to have to be 1*10^9.
 

Redingold

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JinxyKatte said:
Does anyone know off the top of their heads what

10 to the power of 1(insert 100 0's here) is

The resulting number is so large you could not actually write it down in full over the length of the universe. Apparently.
No, you mean 10[sup]10[sup]100[/sup][/sup]. 10[sup]100[/sup] can be written down easily:

10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

The number you were thinking of was a 1 followed by that many zeroes, which is called a googolplex.

That's not a particularly large number, either, though. 9[sup]9[sup]9[sup]9[/sup][/sup][/sup] is bigger than that.

The biggest named finite number is Graham's number, which is so large it can't actually be written down in the form of a tower of powers.

http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/susan/cyc/g/graham.htm

Anyhoo, enough of that. In the old British system, one billion was indeed 10[sup]12[/sup], and 10[sup]9[/sup] was called a milliard. Now, however, British people use 10[sup]9[/sup] as a billion (at least, everyone I know does).
 

loc978

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...engineer's notation is what I go by. Kilo, Mega, Giga, Tera... screw this million-billion nonsense. I'll take a GigaDollar, please!
 

Davey Woo

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It is "a million" millions, so...
1,000,000 = million...
100,000,000,000,000 = billion?

EDIT:
1,000,000 = one million
10,000,000 = ten million
100,000,000,000 = one hundred million
1,000,000,000,000 = one thousand million (I think that is the "American" Billion)
10,000,000,000,000 = ten thousand million
100,000,000,000,000 = 1 billion
 

MintyNinja

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Taught that:
1,000,000,000 = 1 billion
1,000,000,000,000 = 1 trillion
1,000,000,000,000,000 = 1 quadrillion? <-- not sure about the last one.

EDIT: Ninja'd. Found out after the fact. Here is the shadow warrior's post:
Hawgh said:
1.000.000 = million.
1.000.000.000.000 = billion (milliard).
1.000.000.000.000.000.000 = trillion.
1.000.000.000.000.000.000.000.000 = quadrillion.
 

Sun Flash

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I'm British and I knew there used to be a difference, but I've been taught 1000 M = Billion.

Although a million million sounds cool.
 

maninahat

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brandon237 said:
ChocoFace said:
12 zeroes for a billion? that's messed up.
1000 x million is the right way, of course.
It is messed up, my friend and I had an interesting conversation... until we realised we were working with 2 different numbers :p
And isn't 12 zeros a trillion?
You mean a billion billion? Not if you are english. The Trillion has 18 zeros.
 

Redingold

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JinxyKatte said:
Redingold said:
JinxyKatte said:
Does anyone know off the top of their heads what

10 to the power of 1(insert 100 0's here) is

The resulting number is so large you could not actually write it down in full over the length of the universe. Apparently.
No, you mean 10[sup]10[sup]100[/sup][/sup]. 10[sup]100[/sup] can be written down easily:

10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

The number you were thinking of was a 1 followed by that many zeroes, which is called a googolplex.

That's not a particularly large number, either, though. 9[sup]9[sup]9[sup]9[/sup][/sup][/sup] is bigger than that.

The biggest named finite number is Graham's number, which is so large it can't actually be written down in the form of a tower of powers.

http://www-users.cs.york.ac.uk/susan/cyc/g/graham.htm

Anyhoo, enough of that. In the old British system, one billion was indeed 10[sup]12[/sup], and 10[sup]9[/sup] was called a milliard. Now, however, British people use 10[sup]9[/sup] as a billion (at least, everyone I know does).
No what I asked for was what is

10 to the power of 10000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

Which is a googolplex. I definitely said it right.
Oh, right. Sorry, my mistake. I didn't read what you'd written carefully enough.
 

Anchupom

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Billion.
Bi-million
2-million
Million[sup]2[/sup]
1,000,000[sup]2[/sup]
1,000,000,000,000

Language solves maths.


I know that we all use 1x10[sup]9[/sup] but linguistically the American way (which everyone uses) is the wrong way.