Poll: One world language... that isn't yours.

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Naeo

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I was wavering between German and Esparanto, and went with the latter because German has all the weird strong/weak verbs and crazy-ass plurals/object forms that follow almost no apparent pattern and often arbitrary distinctions on gender and is not that hard to learn if you speak a related language or English but otherwise it's probably fairly difficult.

Esparanto, meanwhile, was designed to be an international language so I'm gonna assume (probably not a smart thing to do but eh, this is the internet) it's better at this than German.
 
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Either Esperanto or Basque. Basque is AWESOME, and I don't know anything about it. In fact, if Basque was a choice, I would have voted that, but it wasn't, so I didn't.
 

mageroel

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Serenegoose said:
mageroel said:
Try Scheveningen ;) the Dutch actually used that name to find out if people weren't Dutch, because nobody could pronounce it :p (it was a whole sentence but I forgot the rest)
I was referring to Welsh as consistent, not Dutch. As I said, I don't speak it, so I have no idea if it's a consistent language or not. :p

I don't speak much welsh either but one of my partners speaks some.
I know, just sayin' Scheveningen cracks me up if it's said by someone who's not Dutch (aside from people from Belgium) ;)
 

Patrick Dare

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snave said:
No surprise that so many people voted Japanese here... but I kinda question why?

Its got definite advantages over English, don't get me wrong, but its got equal number of siadvantages, biggest of which being it's perpetually in flux. Does anyone who voted for it realise just how many of the youth within Japan are functionally illiterate? No, really. I'm dead serious. Its got to this insane point where the newspapers are increasing kanji use because modern computers mean its easy to, and the youth are sitting there in uni writing exclusively in kana. Too many homophones? Thats easy, grab a word you learnt from your failed English classes and substitute in an approximation. Theres more flux in modern Japanese than there is in English, and English is spoken in how many countries?
I wondered this too. I mean obviously there are a bunch of people who are super into Japan because of anime but speaking from a more pragmatic mindset I think Japanese would be a poor choice. Sure speaking/comprehension may not be any more or less difficult than most languages but learning to read/write is a nightmare. It's not really inherently hard, it's just that there's so damn much to remember it's ridiculous, even native speakers have trouble with it.

Anyways, I chose German because I already know a bit and I like it. However, again, from a more pragmatic stance I'm sure there's something better (or something better could be created). I don't know about Esperanto because I've never heard of it before.
 

Blemontea

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I would say Latin but you didn't have it posted...

So instead Spanish, its easy to learn(ish). Plus we get to torment the rednecks and Racist bastards. MUWHAHAHA!
 

Daughterofether

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japanese because i already speak it.

but more seriously - the majority of these languages dont really deserve a place on the list and would make no sense to use as a world language. take my choice (japanese) for example, sure i'd be ok with it, but really? the language is the native tongue of one country and mere few hundred million people. French is apparently one of the international languages (look at your passport and see what languages it's printed in) despite not being very significant in terms of the number of users nor the significance of those uses.

the actual languages that may deserve a place on this list;

English (If it werent disqualified by the 'not your language' in the title; each day more resources and services change hands as a result of negotiations done in english than any other language, the language of commerce)

Mandarin Chinese (Spoken by more people than any other language. by a large margin.)

Spanish and Portugese are spoken as the national language of more countries

Several european languages might make a claim based on the amount and significance of scientific research published in those languages, including german, french, sweedish and russian.

Esperanto is actually the choice that makes the most sense. As an engineered language it has properties that other languages cannot claim. It is minimalist in vocabulary, consistently logical, designed to be both easy to learn and easy to use to learn other languages.
 

monkey_man

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Serenegoose said:
oh man, Dutch. All kinds of voting for Dutch. I don't know why, but I love that language, and I don't know how to speak it. :(
it's easy! hell, i can teach you!
 

Anarchemitis

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Es wäre am sinnvollsten für mich aufgrund meiner Familiengeschichte zu machen.
Ist es nicht wunderbar?
monkey_man said:
Serenegoose said:
oh man, Dutch. All kinds of voting for Dutch. I don't know why, but I love that language, and I don't know how to speak it. :(
it's easy! hell, i can teach you!
Klaar!
 

smashmaniac64

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Japanese. I hope to go to Japan someday so learning it would probably be a good idea.
same but its easier said than done, jap is kinda hard to learn because of having 3 main writing languages -_-
 

Akihiko

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Shame Latin isn't on the list. I would have chosen that.

Despite liking the language, Japanese is out of the question purely because it would take ages to become fluent in it.
 

Therumancer

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Squilookle said:
So the world decides to unify everyone under a common language, but doesn't know how to do it. So, they decide everyone must vote for the language they think would be best that isn't their primary language already. That means for most of you English is out. What would you vote for?

Personally I'd vote for Spanish. That language is simply music to my ears.
Good to see a fellow "Stainless Steel Rat" fan (or so I guess with Esperanto being listed).

Yeas ago I did some reading on socio-linguistic studies. The idea being that people's thoughts and speed of thought is affected by the language they first learn. Some languages being capable of much faster, and more detailed dissemination of information than others, and apparently leading to people who think faster and in more detail.

Where that eventually went I had no idea, but I seem to remember that "German" was at the top of the list for lingual efficiency. Apparently it includes a lot more "specialized" words for complicated concepts than other languages, things like the popular "Schaetenfreude" and the like. If I recall it also pointed to all the german scientists, engineers, and bankers which have been a step ahead of most of the world for a long time (or so it seems) as an example.

English was pretty highly ranked for similar reasons, where most of the "Romance" languages like French, Spanish, Italian, etc... were very middle of the road, as was Japanese though it's reliance on tone was considered to have weakened it somewhat.

I seem to remember that the big losers were various Tribal tongues and obscure languages, including some like Cherokee. The biggest loser of major languages was Chinese (and this was before a lot of the current tensions) largely due to the fact that it's written language was not up to what it's verbal component could sometimes achieve. The problem being that "classically" it's not phonetically based, but rather relies on each word having it's own symbol. I seem to also remember the sheer number of dialects of Chinese was mentioned as being staggering, and as they can melt together in some places it can create a giant mess.

That's how I remember things, so no need to argue with me, the conclusions weren't really mine, and I don't remember all the details.

At the time though it made a lot of sense, not so much because of how it influanced individual thought processes, but also the arguement that efficient communication between members of a society can influance how fast and how well that society advances in the long term.

The arguement involving things like how language could have been a contributing factor to why a lot of tribal cultures remained tribal cultures, the quality of life in places like China (which was not always unified) can vary so greatly along with what is availible in any reason, and similar things.

The Egyptians having formed one of the first known systems of language and writing being one of the first majoe civilizations/world powers because of it, and dominated the entire fertile crescent region. They were themselves more or less replaced over times by the Greeks and Romans whose success and rate of advancement could quite probably be tied to more efficient ways of doing the same things.... etc... etc...


At any rate I know how "German is the best language" sounds in light of "World War II" but again, that was apparently the conclusion by my memory.
 

Sn1P3r M98

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German. I'd rather speak Russian but the alphabet is too confusing, and I like the sound of German as well.
 

klaynexas3

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you should've had latin up there. no one speaks it as a main language, and it's the root of most languages, so it'd be a good one that isn't a primary one without being hard to learn
 

Yureina

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Japanese because its the language I know the most of beyond English. Took two years of classes. :eek: