Poll: Opposite gender (sex) clone - Would you?

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Housebroken Lunatic

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wordsmith said:
There is a theory which applies to this actually- if your first thought upon seeing your clone is "kill it", so would it's initial thought. Your reaction time would be the same, your speed, your fighting style... every time you feint, your clone would know it was a feint, because that would be what they'd do in that situation. The fight ends when one of you has an extra bit of luck, which will be shortly followed by the other fighter getting the same luck, and you both crash to the floor in a pool of your own intestines.
One flaw with that theory though. The whole "one clone = male, one clone = female" throws a monkey wrench into it. Because if me and my clone are supposed to be of opposite genders then it would be safe to assume that we've both developed as a male and a female human. Which means that I will, through biological probability, be naturally stronger and possibly even faster than my female counterpart. So even if we were exactly the same in every other aspect and even thought I'd still have an edge and would be the most likely winner.

It's not that im being chauvinistic here or anything really, just that if me and my female, cloned counterpart are exactly the same in every aspect aside from the physical one, I'd most likely be a better fighter than her.

Then again, if I know myself right, then she would most likely compensate for her probably inferior strength in some way. Since I certainly take steps today to compensate for situations where my strength might be inferor to others in hostile situations (i.e always carrying appropriate weaponry and knowing how to use it). Hence why the fight would be such a challenge, because she'd have my smarts and same degree of killer instinct, but she'd work under radically different conditions than I do. Perhaps even turning the situation into one where I might find myself with a knife in a gunfight.

So, as I've said, it would be a challenge to kill my female clone. But it must be done!
 

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Cpt_Oblivious said:
I'd look after it, the poor scared little clone.

And for people who say they'd sleep with it, what if they're not attracted to you? I mean, after the cloning they become a new person, not you. If they don't want to that'd be rape. You'd be a rapist.
let's see it hold up in court ^_^


also, I probably would kill it with fire....HELLFIRE (i bring you to burn)
 

Isalan

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Easy, me and Mrs Clone would set up a 24 hour a day WoW levelling service. Maybe I might finally be able to level a priest if someone else did most of the work.
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
wordsmith said:
There is a theory which applies to this actually- if your first thought upon seeing your clone is "kill it", so would it's initial thought. Your reaction time would be the same, your speed, your fighting style... every time you feint, your clone would know it was a feint, because that would be what they'd do in that situation. The fight ends when one of you has an extra bit of luck, which will be shortly followed by the other fighter getting the same luck, and you both crash to the floor in a pool of your own intestines.
One flaw with that theory though. The whole "one clone = male, one clone = female" throws a monkey wrench into it. Because if me and my clone are supposed to be of opposite genders then it would be safe to assume that we've both developed as a male and a female human. Which means that I will, through biological probability, be naturally stronger and possibly even faster than my female counterpart. So even if we were exactly the same in every other aspect and even thought I'd still have an edge and would be the most likely winner.

It's not that im being chauvinistic here or anything really, just that if me and my female, cloned counterpart are exactly the same in every aspect aside from the physical one, I'd most likely be a better fighter than her.

Then again, if I know myself right, then she would most likely compensate for her probably inferior strength in some way. Since I certainly take steps today to compensate for situations where my strength might be inferor to others in hostile situations (i.e always carrying appropriate weaponry and knowing how to use it). Hence why the fight would be such a challenge, because she'd have my smarts and same degree of killer instinct, but she'd work under radically different conditions than I do. Perhaps even turning the situation into one where I might find myself with a knife in a gunfight.

So, as I've said, it would be a challenge to kill my female clone. But it must be done!
Whilst I'd agree if it was a genetic clone (in my experience you are correct- guys will have the height/weight advantage, so skill would come into it, and being identically skilled...), however a CLONE would weigh the same as you, be the same height, the only difference being what's between the legs.

The theory draws on your natural fighting style- I broke my left arm when I was 9, and as a result I favour my right side. There was nerve damage, so the muscles in my left arm were screwed for 12 weeks, and I never bothered to re-balance them (through working only on my left arm). Your clone would have the same weaknesses as you, and would attempt to exploit them.

Whilst I agree with the "different entity" thing that someone else brought up, if you were fighting a clone, would you fight as if you were against a normal person, or against yourself? That is, are you thinking "I've got to knock him out" or "If someone was trying to knock me out, I'd do X, how do I combat X"
 

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wordsmith said:
Housebroken Lunatic said:
I'd kill it.

Sure, it might possess a dirty imagination of equal grade to my own, as well as being a rather unselfish lover. But it would also possess the flawless methods of argumentation and discussion that I do, meaning that it would be impossible for me to win any debates, and also there's that issue with not being completely unique anymore.

Still it would be one vicious fighter if it has to fend for it's own life. It would use every dirty trick in the book and would probably start swinging a knife at me too. So it would be a challenge, but a necessary one.
There is a theory which applies to this actually- if your first thought upon seeing your clone is "kill it", so would it's initial thought. Your reaction time would be the same, your speed, your fighting style... every time you feint, your clone would know it was a feint, because that would be what they'd do in that situation. The fight ends when one of you has an extra bit of luck, which will be shortly followed by the other fighter getting the same luck, and you both crash to the floor in a pool of your own intestines.
My clone would win hands down. Unless the clone was really an exact copy the clone would not share all my old injuries. Then again the clone could also not carry my exact physique, nor my experience, and several of those old injuries where a part of a misspent youth that included a number of fights. You never know, cause the point I am trying to make is that a clone is not a duplicate, but another person grown from a copy of your DNA.

Which brings me again to this topic for the second time on this thread:

DarkRyter said:
More to masturbation then incest.
It's not masturbation. A clone is not an identical copy of you as you are now. A clone is an identical genetic match. A clone would be similar enough to be considered a twin, but not you. It would be incest.

Even if it was an exact copy of you it would still be another person and the closest analog to what an intimate relationship with a exact duplicate of yourself would be is incest.
 

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I've always wanted a sibling out of loneliness since early childhood, but due to my mother's complications, my last hope was dashed by a miscarriage.
 

Stormcloud23

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Marry immediately... Do you have any idea how hard it is to find someone with the exact same views on you as everything? Damn near impossible. And I pretty much hate everyone else I meet, so this would be perfect.
 

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wordsmith said:
Whilst I'd agree if it was a genetic clone (in my experience you are correct- guys will have the height/weight advantage, so skill would come into it, and being identically skilled...), however a CLONE would weigh the same as you, be the same height, the only difference being what's between the legs.

The theory draws on your natural fighting style- I broke my left arm when I was 9, and as a result I favour my right side. There was nerve damage, so the muscles in my left arm were screwed for 12 weeks, and I never bothered to re-balance them (through working only on my left arm). Your clone would have the same weaknesses as you, and would attempt to exploit them.

Whilst I agree with the "different entity" thing that someone else brought up, if you were fighting a clone, would you fight as if you were against a normal person, or against yourself? That is, are you thinking "I've got to knock him out" or "If someone was trying to knock me out, I'd do X, how do I combat X"
But still, that part where she has to be of different gender (which is naturally impossible for a genetic clone afterall), will ultimately provide a difference. Her body must per definition be developed radically different than mine and thus it will no longer really just be an issue of height and weight, but actual physical strength.

It's not that im saying that a woman couldn't be as strong as me (there are probably women who are even stronger than I), but the thing is their genetics are different than mine and thus that difference will in itself be responsible for why other women might be stronger than I. With a clone (or pseudo-clone since it must be female) should have the same genetical heritage as me aside from the switched gender chromosomes and the rst which differenciates males and females. And provided that she's had the same amount of physical training as I have (which isn't very much, im pretty skinny), then my higher levels of testosterone will most likely have had a larger impact on my muscle development making me the stronger one.

I guess what im saying is that your argument would be more suited if the other person wasn't necessarily a clone born of opposite gender, but rather an actual clone (of the same gender like a clone should be) who have undergone a sex-change (which means that up until the point of the hormone treatment and sex-change operation her body would have had the the same development as mine during our time growing up and thus be more on par with my body).
 

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Stormcloud23 said:
Marry immediately... Do you have any idea how hard it is to find someone with the exact same views on you as everything? Damn near impossible. And I pretty much hate everyone else I meet, so this would be perfect.
That's the second part why I wouldn't fancy a female counterpart of myself as a partner. We wouldn't be able to distinguish ourselves from eachother. I happen to like women who are different from me, in both opinions ans ways of thinking. If we thought exactly the same about everything, then we wouldn't really have anything to talk about. That seems kind of boring to me.
 

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Hell no, it would be like sleeping with your sister, nasty.

I would keep them around incase I ever need a kidney or bone marrow...
 

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As for me I wouldn't date my clone. I already annoy myself. However that said I'd probably try the whole sleep with myself thing at least once just because I know that a female version of me would be hot stuff!

Oh no I've got the perfect answer... ULTIMATE XBOX LIVE TAG TEAM!
Yes and more yes. Finally I'd have somebody as good as me to play Army of Two, Mario Kart Double Dash, Katamari Damacy in co-op, Gears of War 1 and 2... the possibilities are wonderful.

Wouldn't try to do the nasty with the clone though. Odds are it'd just look like my sister.
 

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Ossum said:
Wouldn't try to do the nasty with the clone though. Odds are it'd just look like my sister.
That's what's so shameful about my scenario. Since im the only child of my two parents (I have siblings but with two of them we have different fathers, and the other two we have different mothers), there wouldn't really be any sister who could look like my femme-clone, thus I wouldn't really be able to think of someone too close to family for it to be gross.

And since I find men to be inherently ugly (including myself actually, though it doesn't really hamper my confidence at all), and the female body to be beautiful, my femme-clone would probably be attractive in my eyes to a certain degree.

It's a shame that I have to kill it. :(
 

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Housebroken Lunatic said:
Stormcloud23 said:
Marry immediately... Do you have any idea how hard it is to find someone with the exact same views on you as everything? Damn near impossible. And I pretty much hate everyone else I meet, so this would be perfect.
That's the second part why I wouldn't fancy a female counterpart of myself as a partner. We wouldn't be able to distinguish ourselves from eachother. I happen to like women who are different from me, in both opinions ans ways of thinking. If we thought exactly the same about everything, then we wouldn't really have anything to talk about. That seems kind of boring to me.
I'm a narcissistic bastard so it'd work for me, but whatever floats your boat. If I had another me, I'd finally be able to get shit done.