Poll: Origin v Steam with battlelines drawn, where r u?

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Alphakirby

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I think this explains my option.

Also,I think Steam is a pretty cool service with it's annual sales that makes awesome games inexpensive and affordable.
 

sheic99

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viranimus said:
My position is the same as it always is. Until these digital distribution clients actually impart ownership rights, and stop selling licenses instead of games, then I hope they duke it out in a bloody battle and obliterate each other out of existence.

Yeah I get it. Steam has awesome "sales" But those prices directly reflect that there is no actual ownership and Steam in its discretion can revoke your license with or without reason and every steam user has agreed to this as well as agreed to if their account is closed that they are not entitled to any form of recompense for what has been taken away from them.

It astounds me that people buy so vehemently into this. I mean Most people wont buy gold from chinese gold sellers in MMOs because "why would I pay real money for something that isnt real" then why is it that people miss that when it comes to digital distribution?

So yes.. Let them duke it out and destroy each other. Perhaps we can get a proper method of digital distribution that isnt founded on such a faulty premise.
What makes you think you own any of your physical copies? The only thing different between digital and physical games is the disc. You own the piece of plastic and a license, it's ignorant to think otherwise.
 

bombadilillo

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Kaymish said:
cant i use both ?? i mean its not like they are mutually exclusive i can still use all my steam games and buy off origion when they have a good deal or exclusive games or go to steam if they have a diffrent deal or diffrent games
Sure you can. People grumpy cause

1. Steam did the hard labor setting up digital distribution, getting people to accept it as a medium and growing it into an industry force. They did the legwork. Now you got some big players wanting their piece of the pie steam baked and withholding some big name games which is considered a "dick move" or "Viva la Free Market" depending on your world view.

2. YOUR VERY OWN 2 STOP SHOP FOR ALL YOUR GAMING NEEDS. I already have Steam running in the backround, how many of these programs am I expected to get? One for each major publisher? Slippery slope is a difficult argument because it requires predicting the future. But honestly this seems like a mini gamer centric 90's web bubble. All the developers spend a bundle trying to make their digital platform the bees knees and they all fail but 1 or 2 when the dust settles. Meanwhile the games have to either get a boatload of programs and juggle. Or buy hard copy.

As for you the lowly consumer. Feel free to support (or not) whatever you please as they are NOT mutually exclusive. Good luck not supporting them if you want to play their MMO though...
 

Treeinthewoods

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Well...

If Origin is going to be the exclusive place to buy EA titles on line, and they price lower than retail (or even the exact same price without tax) what logical reason do I have to not buy the game from Origin? If I have to decide between Origin and not playing Mass Effect 3 I know what I'm going to do.
 

andy.welbournW

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Steam, I Dislike EA with a huge passion, to the point where I publicly boycotted their games, and actually followed through.

Steam provide a reliable platform to download games, and the often offer large discounts and bonuses on even pre-release games.
 

El Poncho

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The only reason I would use origins is if it was needed to run The Old Republic MMO. I wouldn't use it for anything else.
 

bombadilillo

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Treeinthewoods said:
Well...

If Origin is going to be the exclusive place to buy EA titles on line, and they price lower than retail (or even the exact same price without tax) what logical reason do I have to not buy the game from Origin? If I have to decide between Origin and not playing Mass Effect 3 I know what I'm going to do.
Yeah thats rather obvious... I think the poll is more for game xxxxx is on steam and origin for the same price. You want to buy it, who do you use?
 

The Random One

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I stand outside, waiting for someone to create a digital distribution vehicle that is actually decent and does not kick me in the balls every time I consider using it.
 

ScrubberDucky

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EA is and has always been deaf to the pleas and wants of its consumerbase. It continually fucks us over, and while it's hard to boycott a company that is just so damn big, I really and truly hope people will remember how EA has screwed us over in the past and not buy from Origin just because of the tricks it's pulling.

What they're doing now shouldn't be seen as added benefit for using Origin, it should be seen as another way they're screwing us over.
 

bean burrito

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Amphoteric said:
I hope origin crashes and burns.

Mostly because I have a deep loathing for EA.
This. EA seems to have become one of those evil corporations of the gaming world (see Extra Credit's episode on EA's marketing), which is a shame. But I'm not about to jump ship from Steam just because of Dragon Age/Mass Effect when I could just buy those games else where. And if I'm required to activate on Origin, than I'll probably just play my mate's console version.
 

DigitalAtlas

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This is why digital distribution is evil.

It's going to be about each publisher getting their own ways of distribution so they can get every cent and control every product.

The consumer is the only suffering here.

As for the winner? Their won't be one. Both will continue to exist because PC consumers will stop at nothing to get games such as Mass Effect and Battlefield while at the same time Steam is the one place where you can get every indie game in the world for $4.99
 

Hungry Donner

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I see the logic of big publishers wanting their own distribution network, I'd even say it makes more sense than a single on-line store. Except for one thing, I don't want multiple Steam-like applications running in the background all at once.

I also realize from EA's perspective people won't try their service if they're already using Steam, so it makes sense to restrict their most popular games to their service.

However I personally think this is going to backfire, and I think EA is making a bad move restricting games this early on. When Steam was first released a lot of people had problems with it and it took Valve quite some time to iron these out - I suspect Origin will have a similar period of sorting itself out, so why force people to use it before it has been refined?

If they waited until Origin had some following, and then started to restrict games, at least people biting the bullet and trying it out would be likely to stay with it. I know several people who got Half Life 2 when it was released and have completely avoided Steam since, and several others who still have accounts but rarely use them and are still wary of it.

EA should also know better. Many people avoided popular games a few years ago, like Spore, when they heard it had invasive DRM. People are likely to do it again with Origin - I know I will be.
 

nekroskoma

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>sees the poll

damn, that is pretty brutal

and if its a glimpse of what is to come then my prediction is right
 

thehorror2

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Let's compare, shall we? EA is giving us its own games, most of which are crap. (Those that aren't are made by Bioware, which I fear is getting bogged down by the sheer number of projects getting piled on as EA realizes they're the only dev house they've got left who's worth their salt except for DICE, which has only ever done multiplayer FPSs well anyway.

Meanwhile, Valve takes its sweet time giving us really, incredibly good and atmospheric titles like L4D and HL2 (with attending episodes) and gets us to spend our time on other peoples games while they make more, and treat their customers like people instead of boxes of money and (Entirely male) hormones.

It's going to be fun to watch the fireworks. I predict Origin will flame out once the whole TOR thing blows over and people go back to WoW. EA will realize they don't have the catalogue to make a Steam-style service work on their own, fold their cards, and quietly put all of their products back on Steam. (And hope everyone forgets Origin existed.) On the off-chance Origin actually proves to be better than Steam, I'll gladly jump ship. I don't judge companies subjectively, I evaluate based on past behavior. EA stands to regain a lot of lost customer trust by making themselves out as the "other Valve" even if they aren't really.
 

Kaytastrophe

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I haven't used origin (and probably wont as I'm more of a disc based console player) and I've used steam a couple times to get in on some good sales but honestly their service sucks. Yes the program/market are great but I had a problem getting access to my account because i didnt have a validation code and i kept asking them to send it but they didn't. I tried calling them, but steam does not have a support service to call (or at least its not easy to find I ended up calling valve but they wouldn't help), so I emailed them for a reply...I'm still waiting for that reply...its been a couple weeks now.
 

neonsword13-ops

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Steam has ALL the goodies. Indies, free games, and new games.

Steam is like a triathalon winner for the last 14 years and counting. Origins is the fat kid that slows down every 10 minutes and always finishes the race in last. Origins says he'll try harder next year but he's too busy admiring his enormus ego.

In my opinion atleast.